mayapuppies Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Stolen straight from KS's site: Vow of Association: May not willingly associate or tolerate Evil individuals (Frequently, Limiting) Vow of Acknowledgment: Must obey members of the clergy in a position of authority in whatever church or cause the Paladin Serves (Frequently, Limiting) Vow of Accordance: Must act in accordance with the precepts of the religion the Paladin serves or loose all special "Only While Serving The God's Purposes" abilities. (Infrequently, Severe) Vow of Atonement: Must go through lengthy quest or some other form of personal sacrifice to regain abilities if the Vow of Accordance is violated. (Infrequently, Severe) I'd like to utilize these for a group of paladins called Pyroclasts that belong to the Cult of the Forge. This is the primary religion for a culture of hyper religious Dwarves. I'd like to reword the names of the vows to reflect a "blacksmith" style feel in keeping with the "Cult of the Forge" naming convention. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Typist Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows My smithing terminology is weak, but I remember there is some specific terminology associated with separating impurities from metals, and that could be useful for the first vow. I don't know if that really helps you much. Let me think some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayapuppies Posted September 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows heh, yeah, I'm in the same boat. I was thinking Vow of Purity for the first and Vow of Smelting for the last, but smelting doesn't sound "cool" to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows Vow of Association: May not willingly associate or tolerate Evil individuals (Frequently, Limiting) Vow of Purity. Vow of Acknowledgment: Must obey members of the clergy in a position of authority in whatever church or cause the Paladin Serves (Frequently, Limiting) Vow of Utility, or Vow of the Tool. "As the priest is the hand of the God, so I become the hammer in that hand." Vow of Accordance: Must act in accordance with the precepts of the religion the Paladin serves or loose all special "Only While Serving The God's Purposes" abilities. (Infrequently, Severe) Vow of Incorrodibility. "I must keep my spirit free of corrosion and my character free of stain, not for my sake but for the sake of all Dwarves. For if gold rust, what then shall iron do?" (Thank you, Chaucer) Vow of Atonement: Must go through lengthy quest or some other form of personal sacrifice to regain abilities if the Vow of Accordance is violated. (Infrequently, Severe) Vow of Reforging, or of Recasting? Vow of the Anvil and Hammer ("I willingly place myself again upon the anvil...." Hm, are they going to use an anvil for an altar? Lucius Alexander A paladindrome fights for truth and justice, coming and going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayapuppies Posted September 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows Very nice!! And yes, they do use anvils as altars. There are three "castes" within the cult and each altar is cast in a different manner to reflect them. The Pyroclasts are "outside" the church hierarchy but subservient to all three castes and ranks. Thank you sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsoul Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows Well Lucius seems to have this pretty well sewn up but here is my two penny's worth anyway. Vow of Association: May not willingly associate or tolerate Evil individuals (Frequently, Limiting) Are they expected to actively attack evil individuals or just avoid them? In the first case then they could swear the Vow of Smiting i.e. must battle evil not cooperate with it. (It has been suggested that smite is the root word of smith due to the action of striking metal). Vow of Silver. (Pure). Vow of Acknowledgment: Must obey members of the clergy in a position of authority in whatever church or cause the Paladin Serves (Frequently, Limiting) Vow Of Duty's Chains. Vow of Copper (Service, humble). Vow of Accordance: Must act in accordance with the precepts of the religion the Paladin serves or loose all special "Only While Serving The God's Purposes" abilities. (Infrequently, Severe) Vow of Tempering or Vow of The Tempered Soul. Since tempering is intended to make metals stronger but less flexible, (I think). Vow of Adamantium/Mythril/Gold. (Must be perfect/better behaved than others. Vow of Atonement: Must go through lengthy quest or some other form of personal sacrifice to regain abilities if the Vow of Accordance is violated. (Infrequently, Severe) The Journeyman's Penance/Road. Vow of Ore. (Must be purified). If these Dwarves take religion very very seriously then perhaps there are two factions of Pyroclasts who loathe each other due to differences of opinion on what to call their vows or how to word them. These factions may just try to outdo or humiliate each other rather than throwing a full scale war of faith. Depends on what exactly you want out of the religions in your setting. Could be an amusing way to keep the players on their toes though - "Are those the Dwarven Forge Paladins that like us or the other ones?" "I can't tell. Lets leg it just in case." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayapuppies Posted September 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows Thanks Shadowsoul. More great suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrm Ouroboros Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows Law of the Crucible (Vow of Association): "As our spirits are purified, so thus must they cast away all impurities." Law of the Furnace (Vow of Acknowledgement): "In the fires of others' needs and others' directions are we tempered." Law of the Cast (Vow of Accordance): "As our oaths are our bond, so are these guidelines our boundaries." Law of the Forge (Vow of Atonement): "Only through great effort and working of skill can our failures be made whole." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows Okay, I'm still pretty new to this message board thing, but I'm pretty sure I know how to do this. Miko. Miko Miko Miko. Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko. Oh, like none of you were thinking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thia Halmades Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows ... What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows Miko is a Paladin in the comic strip Order of the Stick. Check it out. Read from the beginning. yes it's stick figures, but it is 32 flavours of funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrm Ouroboros Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Re: Paladin Vows I disagree. OotS is at least 64 Flavors. And maybe another doubling thereof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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