Animated JLA, 6th Edition

[Hyper-Man]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

...I would have no problem giving Martial Arts Maneuvers to Thor...but not to Superman (Tower of Babel was seven shades of Bullpucky IMO).

 

What, you don't think Batman has a Tanning bed lamp in the Batcave modified to put out red solar radiation so he can give Superman martial arts lessons without getting killed in the process?

[Jhamin]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

Given how often WW's amazing good looks were mentioned in the series I'm surprised not to see a level or two of Striking Appearance. Or does that draw too many points from the important stuff? (All the heroes have physiques only possible in comic books/cartoons, but WW is the only one that gets much attention because of this)

 

As for the Foci? It is mentioned in the JLU seasons that her defenses come from her armor (made by Hephestus) but as we *never* see her unarmored I'm not sure that a focus limit is appropriate.

[Bodkins Odds]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

Yeah, she even wore it under her three piece suit when she was acting as the ambassador from Themyscira.

[Hugh Neilson]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

As for the Foci? It is mentioned in the JLU seasons that her defenses come from her armor (made by Hephestus) but as we *never* see her unarmored I'm not sure that a focus limit is appropriate.

 

Yeah' date=' she even wore it under her three piece suit when she was acting as the ambassador from Themyscira.[/quote']

 

So...she's a PC, then?

[Enforcer84]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

What' date=' you don't think Batman has a Tanning bed lamp in the Batcave modified to put out red solar radiation so he can give Superman martial arts lessons without getting killed in the process? [/quote']

 

That would make more sense than Supes beating Cobra (who was in Batman's body) with his "Experience."

[JmOz]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

So I redid Superman. Sorry Hyper but the sense are staying put. I did however reduce the global lims and the MP size. As planned Supes Normaly would have +30 Str, +20m Flight, and +10/10 rDEF from his MP, shifting as needed.

 

Superman

Clark Kent

 

VAL CHA Cost Roll Notes

100 STR 0 29- HTH Damage 20d6 END [10]

13 DEX 6 12-

20 CON 0 13-

18 INT 8 13- PER Roll 13-

13 EGO 3 12-

20 PRE 5 13- PRE Attack: 4d6

10 OCV 10

10 DCV 5

3 OMCV 0

5 DMCV 6

4 SPD 0 Phases: 3, 6, 9, 12

10 PD 3 10/30 PD (0/20 rPD)

10 ED 3 10/30 ED (0/20 rED)

15 REC 1

50 END 1

15 BODY 5

50 STUN 0

 

Movement Cost Meters Notes

RUNNING 0 12m/24m END [1]

SWIMMING 0 30m/120m END [3]

LEAPING 0 4m 4m forward, 2m upward

FLIGHT 40m/80m

 

 

TUNNELING 6m/12m

 

Characteristics Total: 56

 

Cost Powers

5 JL Earpiece: High Range Radio Perception (Radio Group) (12 Active Points); Non Directional (-1/2), IIF (-1/4), Sense Affected As Radio, Hearing [any other Sense] (-1/4), Hearing Only (-1/4) - END=0

Kyrptonian Powers, all slots Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=

24 1) Bend Steel: +30 STR (30 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=3

8 2) More Powerful: +10 CON (10 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=

4 3) +5 PRE (5 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=

20 4) +5 OCV (25 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=

16 5) +2 SPD (20 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=

4 6) +5 PD (5 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=

4 7) +5 ED (5 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=

8 8) +10 REC (10 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=

4 9) +25 END (5 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=

12 10) +30 STUN (15 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=

36 11) Resistant Protection (10 PD/10 ED), Hardened (+1/4), Impenetrable (+1/4) (45 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=0

8 12) Flight 10m (10 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=1

9 13) Life Support (Extended Breathing: 1 END per Minute; Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum) (11 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=0

2 14) Ultrasonic Perception (Hearing Group) (3 Active Points); Kryptonian Powers (-1/4) - END=0

72 Kryptonain Powers: Multipower, 90-point reserve, (90 Active Points); all slots Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=

2f 1) Kryptonian Defences: Resistant Protection (5 PD/5 ED), Hardened (x2; +1/2), Impenetrable (+1/2) (30 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=0

2f 2) Kryptonain Defences: Resistant Protection (10 PD/10 ED) (30 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=0

2f 3) Kryptonain Defences: Physical Damage Reduction, Resistant, 50% (30 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=0

2f 4) Kryptonian Defences: Energy Damage Reduction, Resistant, 50% (30 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=0

2f 5) Kryptonian Defences: (Total: 30 Active Cost, 24 Real Cost) Physical Damage Reduction, Resistant, 25% (15 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) (Real Cost: 10) plus Energy Damage Reduction, Resistant, 25% (15 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) (Real Cost: 10) - END=0

2f 6) Kryptonain Defences: Damage Negation (-3 DCs Physical, -3 DCs Energy) (30 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=0

2f 7) Faster than...: +15 DEX (30 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=

2f 8) ...A Speeding Bullet: +6 DCV (30 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=

2f 9) Super Speed: +3 SPD (30 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=

2f 10) Super Strong: +30 STR (30 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=3

5f 11) Strength Tricks: +10 STR (Available on total of STR 50), Variable Advantage (+1/2 Advantages; +1) (60 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=6

2f 12) It's a Bird: Flight 20m, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (30 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=0

1f 13) It's a plane: Flight 10m, MegaScale (1m = 1 km; +1) (20 Active Points); Increased Endurance Cost (x2 END; -1/2), Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=4

1f 14) Swimming +26m (30m total) (x4 Noncombat) (18 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=2

2f 15) Superdrill: Tunneling 6m through 12 PD material (30 Active Points); Concentration (0 DCV; -1/2), Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=3

5f 16) Heat Vision: Killing Attack - Ranged 4d6 (60 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=6

1f 17) X-Ray Vision: Penetrative with Sight Group (15 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=0

1f 18) Telescopic Vision: +10 versus Range Modifier for Sight Group (15 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=0

1f 19) Super Hearing: +10 versus Range Modifier for Hearing Group (15 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=0

3f 20) Unlimited Strength: +60 STR (60 Active Points); Cannot be used for Damage (-1/2), Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=6

5f 21) Power Tricks: Severe Transform 1d6+1, Variable Healing Method (+1/4), Variable Special Effects (Limited Group of SFX; Must match other powers; +1/4), Area Of Effect (60m Cone Explosion; +1/2), Improved Results Group (+1) (60 Active Points); Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=6

3f 22) Super Breath: Blast 6d6, Double Knockback (+1/2), Area Of Effect (60m Cone Explosion; +1/2) (60 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=6

3f 23) Super Breath: Dispel 10d6, Fire Powers (+1/2), Area Of Effect (60m Cone Explosion; +1/2) (60 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=6

4f 24) Super Breath And Heat Vision: Killing Attack - Ranged 2 1/2d6, Penetrating (+1/2) (60 Active Points); Limited Range (60m; -1/4), Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=6

 

Powers Total: 293

 

 

Cost Skills

3 Charm 13-

3 Combat Piloting 12-

3 Conversation 13-

1 Criminology 8-

3 Deduction 13-

2 KS: Krypton 11-

3 KS: Super Human World 13-

2 Navigation (Air) 13-

3 PS: Reporter 13-

3 Power 11-

3 Streetwise 13-

3 Teamwork 12-

 

Skills Total: 32

 

Cost Perks

9 Positive Reputation (A large group) 14-, +3/+3d6

10 Vehicles & Bases

 

Perks Total: 19

 

 

Value Complications

10 Dependent NPC: Lois Lane Infrequently (Normal; Useful Noncombat Position or Skills; Unaware of character's adventuring career/Secret ID)

20 Psychological Complication: Code Vs Killing (Common; Total)

20 Susceptibility: 3d6 damage per Turn (Uncommon)

15 Social Complication: Secret ID Frequently, Major

10 Hunted: Rogue Gallery Infrequently (As Pow; Harshly Punish)

 

Complications Points: 75

 

Base Points: 400

Experience: 0

Experience Unspent: 0

Total Character Cost: 400

[Hyper-Man]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

Hey, I'm just trying to help.

So do you plan on building Captain Marvel/Shazam? (who made a 1 episode JLU appearance).

If so, do you plan on using the same general construction as Superman?

If you do you realize, that according to your current Superman build, Cap is only going to get a 5 Real Point discount for NOT having all those 'super-senses'? 36 real points could go a long way towards building the 'Magic Lightning attack' he used in his fight vs. Superman.

 

Anyway, you might want to change the HDesigner option for the slot:

3f 20) Unlimited Strength: +60 STR (60 Active Points); Cannot be used for Damage (-1/2), Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=6

to not add to STR so his base 40 shows instead of 100.

 

Another thing to consider.

After a certain # of slots it becomes cheaper to build a VPP.

[JmOz]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

Hey, I'm just trying to help.

So do you plan on building Captain Marvel/Shazam? (who made a 1 episode JLU appearance).

If so, do you plan on using the same general construction as Superman?

If you do you realize, that according to your current Superman build, Cap is only going to get a 5 Real Point discount for NOT having all those 'super-senses'? 36 real points could go a long way towards building the 'Magic Lightning attack' he used in his fight vs. Superman.

 

Anyway, you might want to change the HDesigner option for the slot:

3f 20) Unlimited Strength: +60 STR (60 Active Points); Cannot be used for Damage (-1/2), Kryptonain (-1/4) - END=6

to not add to STR so his base 40 shows instead of 100.

 

Another thing to consider.

After a certain # of slots it becomes cheaper to build a VPP.

 

 

 

No offence taken AT ALL, love your comments and I keep refering to yours as idea fodder.

 

Good catch on the STR, What do you thing of the idea of Unlimited Strength?

 

Yes, I plan on doing Captain Marvel, probably sometime in 2015 at this rate (Want to do the big 7 first, then a few of my favorites like Green Arrow, Black Canary, & Shining Knight)

[JmOz]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

good call on VPP: I am a little below the threshold for it to be cheaper, but not by much (3 points, assuming it is a cosmic with the ability to shift 60 Active points and a pool of 72 points)

[Hyper-Man]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

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Good catch on the STR, What do you thing of the idea of Unlimited Strength?

 

Yes, I plan on doing Captain Marvel, probably sometime in 2015 at this rate (Want to do the big 7 first, then a few of my favorites like Green Arrow, Black Canary, & Shining Knight)

 

It's fine, I'm just a bit iffy about putting straight STR (or any other characteristic for that matter) in a framework. It is just too efficient and comes down to a sfx allowance to why some characters have it and others don't (basically the same issue I have with super-senses). This is why I went with Density Increase for my version. He is not literally becoming dense (like Marvel's Vision) when he uses it, he's just focusing his flight Power to enhance his STR and hold a position (via the built in KB resistance). DI uses more END than straight STR so it balances out. Allowing for a higher STR in the character's future is relatively easy. If sticking with a Multipower, just increase create a 'multi/variable' slot up to the Reserve max. If using a VPP, just increase the control cost. Mechanically speaking, I worked hard at restraining the starting maximum STR potential for the character because it is so easy to increase later (if you are building the characters with the intent on being used as player characters).

 

I found it easier to do Captain Marvel before Wonder Woman and the others because he is considered such a mirror image of Superman in so many ways. I also looked at the characters through the lens of the old Amber Diceless Roleplaying game and its notion of Rankings of Characteristics (of which it only had 4: STR, END, WARFARE & PSYCH) the points in a stat were abstract (no lifting value assigned to STR for instance), what mattered was whether you outranked an opponent in a contest using a particular stat. When making Superman I was also thinking about Flash and their many races in the comics (and the animated Superman which is in JLU continuity). I see Superman having the potential to be nearly as fast as Flash but he focuses more on the STR because he runs into 'traditional' bricks far more often. So Flash is easy to make (use the same basic Framework used with Superman without non-superspeed abilites and no kryptonian limitation equivalent), so is Green Arrow, but considering how they compare to Superman and Batman they make building the latter two more complex. Wonder Woman fits in there as well as she is to varying degrees a flying/martial/brick/speedster. She has an awful lot of bases to cover and no Kryptonian limitation to hide behind.

[JmOz]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

Yup, that is my problem with Wonder Woman, I am thinking about making her belt a IIF, as it glows in a later episode to represent her getting a power up, and it is a nice tie in to the old TV series. While I call these guys the animated version I am allowing other influences in places, kind of a 70% Animated, 20% Other sources like comics or other shows, 10% my "This is the way it should be"

[JmOz]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

So went back to the drawing board, looking at WW, and I figured out something quite simple (This was after flirting with the idea of making her powers based on various mystic gadgets), and realised that with the new rules for blocking at range I could ditch the reflection (or reduce it a bunch) and just a few skill levels with block/Dodge/Ranged Block and a few points of DCV and be good on it, saving a large chunck of points...

[Bodkins Odds]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

Yeah, I keep buying deflection, no range -1/2 just in case, but the more I think about it levels with ranged block should be enough to justify deflecting bullets with the right SFX. Unless I'm missing something.

[JmOz]

Re: Animated JLA, 6th Edition

 

So here is the latest version of Wonder Woman. When I droped some stuff on the bracelets I had room to get things up to where I wanted them on her

 

Wonder Woman

Princess Diana

 

VAL CHA Cost Roll Notes

50 STR 40 19- HTH Damage 10d6 END [5]

23 DEX 26 14-

20 CON 10 13-

18 INT 8 13- PER Roll 13-

13 EGO 3 12-

15 PRE 5 12- PRE Attack: 3d6

10 OCV 35

10 DCV 35

3 OMCV 0

4 DMCV 3

4 SPD 20 Phases: 3, 6, 9, 12

20 PD 18 20 PD (0 rPD)

20 ED 18 20 ED (0 rED)

10 REC 6

30 END 2

15 BODY 5

40 STUN 10

 

Movement Cost Meters Notes

RUNNING 0 12m/24m END [1]

SWIMMING 0 4m/20m/64m/320m END [1/2]

LEAPING 0 4m 4m forward, 2m upward

FLIGHT 30m/60m

 

 

 

 

Characteristics Total: 244

 

Cost Powers

5 JL Earpiece: High Range Radio Perception (Radio Group) (12 Active Points); Non Directional (-1/2), IIF (-1/4), Sense Affected As Radio & Hearing [any other Sense] (-1/4), Audio Only (-1/4) - END=0

3 Magic Bracelets: +1 DCV (5 Active Points); Restrainable (-1/2) - END=

30 Swift as Hermes: Multipower, 30-point reserve - END=

3f 1) Effortless Flight: Flight 20m, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (30 Active Points) - END=0

3f 2) Underwater: Swimming +16m (4m/20m total) (x16 Noncombat), Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (29 Active Points) - END=1

1f 3) Flight 10m, MegaScale (1m = 1 km; +1) (20 Active Points); Increased Endurance Cost (x2 END; -1/2) - END=4

13 Magic Lasso: Stretching 12m, x8 Noncombat, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (33 Active Points); OAF (-1), Limited Body Parts (-1/4), Range Modifier Applies (-1/4) - END=0

6 Life Support (Longevity: Immortal; Safe in High Pressure) - END=0

 

Powers Total: 64

 

Cost Martial Arts

4 Martial Dodge: 1/2 Phase, -- OCV, +5 DCV, Dodge, Affects All Attacks, Abort

3 Martial Throw: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +1 DCV, 10d6 +v/10, Target Falls

4 Martial Strike: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +2 DCV, 12d6 Strike

3 Martial Grab: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, -1 DCV, Grab Two Limbs, 60 STR for holding on

4 Martial Block: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +2 DCV, Block, Abort

4 Weapon Element: Blades, Bracelets, Lasso, Staffs

 

Martial Arts Total: 22

 

Cost Skills

10 +2 with Martial Arts

8 +4 with Ranged Block

3 Animal Handler 12-

3 Breakfall 14-

3 Charm 12-

3 Combat Piloting 14-

3 Deduction 13-

Expert: Ancient Greece

2 1) KS: Ancient Greece (3 Active Points) 13-

2 2) KS: Greek Roman Arts (3 Active Points) 13-

2 3) KS: Greek Myths (3 Active Points) 13-

3 4) Language: Ancient Greek (idiomatic) (4 Active Points)

3 Paramedics 13-

3 Persuasion 12-

1 Systems Operation 8-

0 TF: Javalins

3 Tactics 13-

3 Teamwork 14-

6 WF: Common Melee Weapons, Common Missile Weapons, Chain & Rope Weapons (Lasso), Staffs

 

Skills Total: 61

 

 

Cost Talents

9 +3/+3d6 Striking Appearance (vs. all characters)

 

Talents Total: 9

 

Value Complications

0 Dependent NPC: Queen Hippoly Infrequently (Slightly Less Powerful than the PC; Useful Noncombat Position or Skills)

15 Hunted: Enemies of the JL Frequently (As Pow; Harshly Punish)

10 Hunted: Fury Infrequently (As Pow; Harshly Punish)

10 Physical Complication: Unfamiliar with man's world (Frequently; Barely Impairing)

15 Psychological Complication: Code of the Amazons (Common; Strong)

10 Social Complication: Princess of Paradice Island / Exiled from Paradice Island Infrequently, Major

15 Social Complication: Public ID Frequently, Major

 

Complications Points: 75

 

Base Points: 400

Experience: 0

Experience Unspent: 0

Total Character Cost: 400