Doomslayer2007 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I'm trying to figure out/create the stats for a black collar soldier(Reference: Timothy Zahn - Black Collar). They are basically something like a Sci-Fi version of Delta Force that has been chemically augmented to be 3 times faster than they were. It seems excessive to give them something like a speed of 9. They wear very flexible armored suits that are like leather armor that is resistant to laser fire and stiffens from an impact such as from a bullet. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasha Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Re: Black Collar I would give them a speed of 4 or 5 with a 18 dex. That would make them plenty fast and would be 3 times more dexterous than a baseline human. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomslayer2007 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: Black Collar Thanks, +2 SPD, Dex Bonus, but they need more... Maybe lightning reflexes and a running bonus. In the books(Black Collar and Backlash), they are really bad ass when it comes to moving around and taking actions. Doomslayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: Black Collar If you move their SPD to 6, they might not be 3 times as fast as they are without the collars but they will be 3 times as fast as normal people. Toss a Dex bonus and 4 meters of running and they will be plenty bad ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barwickian Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: Black Collar They've all got longevity, though it doesn't stop them looking old, and many of them have Acting skill to disguise their abilities and pass as old men. And wow, blast from the past. Haven't read the Blackcollar in many, many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexMundi Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: Black Collar Just found new copies a few weeks ago, plus a new copy of the Judas Solution as well as the old and New Cobra stuff. You really don't need a lot of points to do them (Blackcollar's, Cobra's are a bit more expensive). Blackcollars were essentially just, Ninja's in Space trained up to peak human with a touch of superhuman reflexes and training/memory aid and longevity due to the backlash drug... Got to get the scale right to. These are the Best Trained Examples of a guerilla warrior you could possibly have. Not Baseline Human. So you are already up there on the charts a bit. Toss in Backlash and then you got this from the book: Backlash—the code name for the drug that had been the heart of the whole blackcollar project. Given in a tailored dosage pattern, it permanently altered a man's neural chemistry, effectively doubling his speed and reflexes in combat situations. Backlash, and Backlash alone, had allowed the blackcollars to successfully pit their low-tech, low-profile weaponry against the more sophisticated Ryqril equipment and, in many cases, come out ahead. Shuriken and nunchaku passed detectors set for lasers and high-metal projectile guns without raising a ripple; Backlash speed and blackcollar marksmanship turned them into deadlier weapons than they had any right to be. Double the Speed and Reflexes of the Best Trained Ninja Army Ranger Green Beret Navy Seal out there. That's it. Doubling is fairly easy in HERO. Everything else is impact activated flex armor, sling shots and ninja toys. ~Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: Black Collar If you move their SPD to 6' date=' they might not be 3 times as fast as they are without the collars but they will be 3 times as fast as normal people. Toss a Dex bonus and 4 meters of running and they will be plenty bad ass.[/quote'] With a SPD of 6 they don't NEED any extra meters of Running. They will ALREADY be covering ground at thrice a normal Human rate. Another Power to consider might be the Rapid modifier on all senses. Lucius Alexander Faster than a speeding palindromedary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexMundi Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: Black Collar Hmm...coulda sworn I posted relevant scale information. Ah there it is Yes. Mordecai is the only Black Collar (And it's not a device it's a profession, like Green Beret) I'd put at a 6 Speed anyway just based on a few of the scenes in the books. 5's about right for the rest of the Backlash recipients and Caine, a solid 4 .... ~Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Re: Black Collar With a SPD of 6 they don't NEED any extra meters of Running. They will ALREADY be covering ground at thrice a normal Human rate. Another Power to consider might be the Rapid modifier on all senses. Lucius Alexander Faster than a speeding palindromedary With running I wasn't shooting for 3 times as fast as a normal human being. I was shooting for 3 times as fast as they could run without the black collar, which would have been a have been a bit faster than your average Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Re: Black Collar Ninjas in space? Well I must track down the books! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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