rosestar130 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Before I go on, I will say that I'm using 5th Edition - because it's what I have. I'm also fairly new to the system, too. Anyway! I have a character who makes weapons out of discarded instruments - swords made out of broken guitar necks, crossbows out of snare drums with torn heads - whatever he can get his hands on. Though, he makes these for the organization he is a part of and doesn't really uses the weapons he makes. Instead, he uses a set of knuckles with spikes in combination with his boxing. I was looking through the book, and I can't find it anywhere. In the system, what are brass/spiked knuckles considered? What'd be their stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Well, it also makes a difference if you're using superheroic or heroic assumptions. I'd probably do spiked knuckles as a small killing attack. To use in conjunction with Boxing, I'd say you need the Weapons Element. Lucius Alexander The palindromedary claims to be superheroic at one end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosestar130 Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Well, it also makes a difference if you're using superheroic or heroic assumptions. I'd probably do spiked knuckles as a small killing attack. To use in conjunction with Boxing, I'd say you need the Weapons Element. I'm working under more realistic settings [real-world, slightly different tech] but this works! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Another option is penetrating on a die or two of normal PD damage. But yeah, if the character is built with martial arts, he'll need a weapon element (fist loads) for 1 point to use in addition to just fists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJoe3 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 In the system, what are brass/spiked knuckles considered? What'd be their stats? This would be a cestus. It's usually modeled as a 1 pip HKA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vondy Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Brass Knuckles are usually modeled as +2d6 Hand-Attack. You could argue they should be a low-level KA. The problem: their non-existent STR Minimum means the damage adder ramps up too fast. But, with hit locations in play, or 5E StunX, it could work without a STR Minimum. So, 1 Pip KA becomes 1/2d6 KA with Strength - and is effective when stun is calculated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 You could just buy Martial Strike, offensive strike, or Killing strike as Martial arts with a weapon element being Brass nuckles, etc. When you buy Martial Arts, you get one free default Weapon element, so make that the nuckles. You could also buy the same M.A. and say the Weapon Element is your fists because he is a boxer. Then buy one or two DC levels of Martial Arts (base four pts a piece) then add on an OIF (obvious inaccessible focus): Brass Knuckles. Thia will let you be a good boxer who can pump out a touch more damage with a weapon. Soar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Remember though if you have a weapon element, you need the weapon familarity also in order for the element to add damage. Certain weapon fam. are considered free like barehanded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vondy Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 I would treat brass-knuckles as a "punching weapon" and not require a weapon familiarity. However, book-wise, "fist loads" is on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 I wouldn't require a weapon familiarity, but if you want to use them with martial arts, yeah you'd need the weapon element Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 I double checked and fist load is a free weapon fam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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