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Christopher R Taylor

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  1. That's how I'd handle it. Find a way to work it into the game once in a while, instead of being unhappy someone bought down a stat they never use.
  2. Yeah that's my reaction as well. They didn't treat the story with respect in some parts, and did in others. It was like they had multiple writers or something on the story and part of it was just mocking fans but others were pretty solid. I also didn't like how they handled Elektra at all (they didn't handle her well in the Netflix show either, for that matter) but that was less of an issue. I wasn't super fond of Affleck's "I'm so exhausted I can barely walk after a day on the street" interpretation particularly, either, but I like my heroes more heroic and less merely human.
  3. Possibly but the truth is, that's the only hard world data we have to go by in a stat, and its specifically defined in the book. So if you're going to build a range of information on stats, it seems like that would be your starting point. I wouldn't keep pushing this but we can't work together on this if we don't all agree on a basic range and concept here. And I'd love for it to be a team effort.
  4. You could always just roll 2d6 so that its segment 2-12 since nobody is likely to move on 1 anyway.
  5. Here's what the rules say about primary stats ranging from 21-30: Now it seems to me that this is a bit loose based on Strength as I've noted above (25 should be the max, as defined by the lifting chart) so I think as of 5th edition and following, Steve was being a bit loose with the definition and range. Even the best, strongest, and most astounding hulk of a terrifying man on earth can't do that kind of lifting, and they're already doing so much damage to themselves at the current maximum that they are suffering body damage and passing out when attempting it.
  6. I wasn't fond of the bat-voice either, but I got conceptually what he meant to do. It just didn't work very well and the second film it sounded downright ridiculous
  7. Sure, if you wanted to but that doesn't seem to be what the rules mean since these guys doing Backlifts don't move at all. THis video shows an example of someone doing a Back Lift of two oxen. Its more of a strong man stunt than weight lifting, really. For the purposes of this exercise it doesn't seem to be useful.
  8. I didn't really like Affleck as Batman, but he wasn't awful. Then again he didn't have to do it for a full movie solo, and I just cannot see that working any better than when he was Daredevil. Keaton was the real shocker, it frankly stuns me anyone even considered him for the role. But he was damn fine in it.
  9. Well here's what I was able to research in terms of Strength: The Clean & Jerk (lift from the ground over your head) record is 260 kilos. For deadlift (reach down and pick up, standing up with weights held at your sides) is 500 kg. The record for Backlift (attach the weights or place them on a surface and lift slightly clear of the brackets they rest on) is a whopping 1386 kg. There is an unofficial record claiming 2850 kg, but that's almost certainly exaggerated and unconfirmed although it is in the Guinness Book of World Records. Now, the rules say "The maximum amount of weight the character can usually just manage to lift off the ground, stagger with for a step or two, then drop, in kilograms." (HSG 1, page 43). That seems to fit the record set by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (The Mountain) with a 650 log lifted and taking several steps in a strong man competition. But even that is around 23 strength. The Backlift clearly does not apply as you do not move or really even pick anything up, its just raw power to move something slightly. So that's where I'm getting the 25 from: that seems to be what a human can possibly do, given the Hero definition of how they rank strength and weight lifting.
  10. Yeah here's my perspective: 8 is ordinary, average, untrained human 10 is somewhat trained, base hero level 20 is maximum normal humans will tend to be in a given population, although some extremely gifted and superb individuals can be higher (normal characteristic max) 25 is maximum normal human, you just can't get any better: one person on earth has this level of one stat. That's what I'm basing my assessments and characteristic benchmarks around.
  11. When I stat Captain America out for golden age games I put him at max human in all stats, absolute pinnacle of what a man can be. In the Marvel Movies, he's beyond that, nearly Spider-Man level strength, etc. Which again makes examples for these lists challenging: which version do you mean?
  12. Yeah that's the standard for action movies now; consider Brendan Frasier in the Mummy being punched 30 feet crashing against a stone statue and flopping to the ground. Its like people are cartoons now and they bear no relation or comparison to real life.
  13. I honestly would like to see a blend between 5th and 6th on characteristics where some are still figured and some are not. Endurance and recovery, for example, seem impossible to separate from constitution, conceptually.
  14. Yeah I view 30 as outside unassisted human capability, and 25 the peak of humanity, just based on STR.
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