Greywind Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 This thread will be for DC Heroes character conversions. I do not have access to all of the necessary DC Heroes material, so these will consist primarily of stat blocks. What they will not be is full characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Batman STR: 25 DEX: 30 CON: 20 BODY: 12 INT: 32 EGO: 20 PRE: 43 COM: 18 PD: 15 ED: 15 SPD: 9 REC: 9 END: 40 STUN: 35 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Alfred Pennyworth STR: 10 DEX: 10 CON: 10 BODY: 10 INT: 13 EGO: 10 PRE: 10 COM: 10 PD: 5 ED: 5 SPD: 3 REC: 4 END: 20 STUN: 20 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Nightwing STR: 20 DEX: 23 CON: 20 BODY: 12 INT: 23 EGO: 15 PRE: 28 COM: 18 PD: 15 ED: 15 SPD: 5 REC: 8 END: 40 STUN: 32 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Robin (Jason Todd) STR: 10 DEX: 20 CON: 15 BODY: 11 INT: 20 EGO: 13 PRE: 20 COM: 10 PD: 10 ED: 10 SPD: 6 REC: 5 END: 30 STUN: 24 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Commissioner James Gordon STR: 10 DEX: 10 CON: 10 BODY: 10 INT: 18 EGO: 11 PRE: 10 COM: 10 PD: 5 ED: 5 SPD: 3 REC: 4 END: 20 STUN: 20 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Batgirl STR: 20 DEX: 20 CON: 18 BODY: 12 INT: 28 EGO: 16 PRE: 28 COM: 18 PD: 13 ED: 13 SPD: 6 REC: 8 END: 36 STUN: 31 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Harvey Bullock STR: 15 DEX: 10 CON: 13 BODY: 11 INT: 10 EGO: 10 PRE: 15 COM: 10 PD: 8 ED: 8 SPD: 4 REC: 6 END: 26 STUN: 26 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Lucius Fox STR: 10 DEX: 10 CON: 10 BODY: 10 INT: 15 EGO: 10 PRE: 10 COM: 10 PD: 5 ED: 5 SPD: 3 REC: 4 END: 20 STUN: 20 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Catwoman STR: 20 DEX: 30 CON: 18 BODY: 12 INT: 25 EGO: 16 PRE: 30 COM: 20 PD: 13 ED: 13 SPD: 8 REC: 8 END: 36 STUN: 31 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Cue traditional debate over whether Batman can exceed the normal human guideline of 20 Characteristics. Maybe anyone interested could just look that up in the many past threads rather than revisit it here. Just skimming, but I question why DEX moves in 10 point increments for everyone but Nightwing's 23. I also suggest that, if anything, Nightwing is more agile than Batman (something that has been remarked on a lot in recent years - Dick is the more agile, acrobatic, etc. of the two). Not sold that Nightwing has less SPD than Robin (any Robin) or Batgirl either, or that Bats and Catty are 9 and 8 either. Probably lots more to nitpick if one is so inclined. Alfred is a lot more unflappable than a 10 PRE and EGO would suggest, and gets the better of Bats in verbal repartee way more often that that spread in INT would suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Geo-Force STR: 63 DEX: 25 CON: 35 BODY: 15 INT: 23 EGO: 16 PRE: 28 COM: 18 PD: 30 ED: 30 SPD: 6 REC: 20 END: 70 STUN: 65 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Hugh Neilson said: Cue traditional debate over whether Batman can exceed the normal human guideline of 20 Characteristics. Maybe anyone interested could just look that up in the many past threads rather than revisit it here. Just skimming, but I question why DEX moves in 10 point increments for everyone but Nightwing's 23. I also suggest that, if anything, Nightwing is more agile than Batman (something that has been remarked on a lot in recent years - Dick is the more agile, acrobatic, etc. of the two). Not sold that Nightwing has less SPD than Robin (any Robin) or Batgirl either, or that Bats and Catty are 9 and 8 either. Probably lots more to nitpick if one is so inclined. Alfred is a lot more unflappable than a 10 PRE and EGO would suggest, and gets the better of Bats in verbal repartee way more often that that spread in INT would suggest. Blame Mike Stackpole for doing the Batman source book for DC Heroes. After that, blame the guys that did the DC/Champions conversion system. There will be different versions of the characters. Notably Dick Grayson (Robin as sidekick, Robin as a Teen Titan, Robin as a New Teen Titan, Nightwing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Black Lightning STR: 25 DEX: 23 CON: 20 BODY: 12 INT: 23 EGO: 14 PRE: 25 COM: 10 PD: 15 ED: 15 SPD: 6 REC: 9 END: 40 STUN: 35 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Katana STR: 20 DEX: 30 CON: 18 BODY: 12 INT: 23 EGO: 14 PRE: 38 COM: 16 PD: 13 ED: 13 SPD: 8 REC: 8 END: 36 STUN: 31 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Halo STR: 15 DEX: 20 CON: 18 BODY: 12 INT: 18 EGO: 17 PRE: 23 COM: 18 PD: 13 ED: 13 SPD: 5 REC: 7 END: 36 STUN: 29 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Hugh Neilson said: Cue traditional debate over whether Batman can exceed the normal human guideline of 20 Characteristics. Maybe anyone interested could just look that up in the many past threads rather than revisit it here. Just skimming, but I question why DEX moves in 10 point increments for everyone but Nightwing's 23. I also suggest that, if anything, Nightwing is more agile than Batman (something that has been remarked on a lot in recent years - Dick is the more agile, acrobatic, etc. of the two). Not sold that Nightwing has less SPD than Robin (any Robin) or Batgirl either, or that Bats and Catty are 9 and 8 either. Probably lots more to nitpick if one is so inclined. Alfred is a lot more unflappable than a 10 PRE and EGO would suggest, and gets the better of Bats in verbal repartee way more often that that spread in INT would suggest. He's converting from the DC Heroes game to Champions. My guess is he's using the 1st edition Batman sourcebook. In that version of the game, their equivalents of Dex, Int, and Pre added together with your martial arts to determine a character's Initiative. In the DCH to Champions conversion, your Initiative converts to Speed. That's why Batman has a 9 Speed, because he basically maxes out what a human can have in each of those categories in that game system. The reason Nightwing has a 5 Speed is (partially) because they forgot to add in his martial arts score to his initiative. It's just a math error in the book. He should actually have a 6 Speed, and should be this close to having a 7. And remember, this is Nightwing circa 1985, when he first switched from being Robin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Given how easily DC characters get beat up on the CW I think most should have Normal Characteristics Maxima. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 12:07 PM, Cassandra said: Given how easily DC characters get beat up on the CW I think most should have Normal Characteristics Maxima. I'm 97% certain that this thread has nothing to do with the CW. massey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidume Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 Keep in mind, these are probably conversions from the Mayfair DC Heroes system, which has been out of print for 20+ years. A lot of stories have happened since then. When that first came out Grayson had just transitioned to Nightwing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 Metamorpho STR: 60 DEX: 23 CON: 43 BODY: 17 INT: 28 EGO: 12 PRE: 20 COM: 10 PD: 38 ED: 38 SPD: 5 REC: 21 END: 86 STUN: 69 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 The Joker STR: 30 DEX: 25 CON: 10 BODY: 10 INT: 28 EGO: 20 PRE: 30 COM: 10 PD: 6 ED: 6 SPD: 5 REC: 8 END: 20 STUN: 30 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 The Penguin STR: 10 DEX: 10 CON: 15 BODY: 11 INT: 25 EGO: 14 PRE: 20 COM: 10 PD: 10 ED: 10 SPD: 6 REC: 5 END: 30 STUN: 24 Running: 6 Swimming: 2 Leaping: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 I’d be more interested in seeing Legion of Substitute Heroes and Legion academy conversions. A visit by the Subs could fit into most any campaign, yet you don’t see many attempts at doing Infectious Lass and the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 When I get to that book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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