hooligan x Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 My best friend, the lovely Miss Terror, admited today that she "wasn't that into" the game anymore and while she might return at some point, I shouldn't count on it. I am not exactly surprised. She has been unavailable for game night for a few months now. The game is played in our apartment, so it's not like it was out of her way. So, here's the problem: I run so many subplots that Clairmont would be amazed, at least three are tied strongly to Terror's PC Lillith. In the last game she played Lillith eloped with the prodigal scion of the Unseelie court, so I have used the honeymoon to explain her absence. I have ramped up the plots involing other PCs but I am coming to the point a resolution must come to some of the Lillith plots. I need to bring her husband back but I don't want to run Lillith as a PC. I should kill her off but I don't want to. Anyone else ever have a simular problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back There there man! That sucks. I've oft read the hijinks of Lillith in the Quote threads, I feel your loss. Sadly, I've no advice for you, only sympathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenzil Kim Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back Is she willing to come back for one special game? If so you could wrap up all the loose ends. Also the last game could be your opportunity to try and pull her back in;) It’s a shame when a star player decides that its time to move on but sometimes it for the best. I’ve sometimes lingered at a game that I wasn’t really into and it sort of soured the game for the other players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trained Chicken Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back That is too bad- especially since Miss Terror is such a kickass name. My suggestion is to simply "pull the plug" on the subplots involving the character. It's perhaps unsatisfactory from a storyline standpoint, but if you indeed throw more stuff against the wall than Clairmont, it's not like you'll be wanting for material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back Anyone else ever have a simular problem?When I first started our MidGuard campaign back in '92, I planned to provide one of the PCs with a moral dilemma by making the chief acolyte and apprentice of our campaign's megabaddie, the Emerald Mage (A Talofanes-class sorcerer with a 350 point Cosmic VPP), of his character his high school sweetheart. Unfortunately the player dropped out of the game right as I began the adventure (the only player to ever voluntarily leave our game). While I still ran the adventure, it certainly lost some of its poignancy. I was later able to restore some of the intended plot twist by making the woman the best friend and college roommate of the team leader's fiance (now wife). In fact, both the gal pal and her boss ended up being invited to the wedding! (Picture Doctor Doom being invited to Iron Man's wedding.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Willy Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back Pretend that the hanging plot threads are "being resolved in Miss Terror's spinoff solo title", and either never refer to them again or tie them up by GM fiat. It's a shame to lose a good player, but it happens and you have to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Serpent Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back Pretend that the hanging plot threads are "being resolved in Miss Terror's spinoff solo title", and either never refer to them again or tie them up by GM fiat. It's a shame to lose a good player, but it happens and you have to move on. That could work. You could also always turn her into a villain. Taking over the Unseelie court, absorbing their power by drinking the blood of the prince after murdering him on their wedding night could be a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superskrull Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back My best friend, the lovely Miss Terror, admited today that she "wasn't that into" the game anymore and while she might return at some point, I shouldn't count on it. I am not exactly surprised. She has been unavailable for game night for a few months now. The game is played in our apartment, so it's not like it was out of her way. So, here's the problem: I run so many subplots that Clairmont would be amazed, at least three are tied strongly to Terror's PC Lillith. In the last game she played Lillith eloped with the prodigal scion of the Unseelie court, so I have used the honeymoon to explain her absence. I have ramped up the plots involing other PCs but I am coming to the point a resolution must come to some of the Lillith plots. I need to bring her husband back but I don't want to run Lillith as a PC. I should kill her off but I don't want to. Anyone else ever have a simular problem? Hmm. Well, if you need her off-screen but retrievable AND you need her husband back, I can think of at least a couple thematically similar ways. Turn her to stone & remove her head. Now hubbie needs your PCs to help him get back that blackguard's new paperweight so that the transformation can be undone. The poison apple method. Knocks her into an "irrevocable" coma via some McGuffin-laced poison that neither Seelie nor Unseelie can directly effect. Make it something to do with one of the fae-banes like rowan or cold iron or some such nonsense. Smells like quest to me. Trap her in a crystal formed of her own soul. Bust her out the wrong way and she's wormfood. "That's no dog, that's my wife" A classic for the fae. She's now a small yappy dog, mind and body. This is gonna take some fixing and you can have fun with the jokes about poorly-housebroken pets. Make her physically & mentally 6 years old. Now hubbie gets to play surrogate dad and you can always just unravel the spell when you need her back. As an alternate to the statue option, see if the reasoning behind the Black Knight being petrified work. He had his soul sent back to merge with an ancestor in the 12th century and his body turned to stone while he was gone. Maybe someone needs to borrow her essence and will return her ASAP, honest. It's like it says in the BBB, if you can kill someone you can turn them into something for the same points. Just fiddle with the whole Trigger to undo the Transform and it's all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Haerandir Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back I recommend something involving clone duplicates. Or, given the Unseelie connection, a Faerie doppelganger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooligan x Posted December 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back I recommend something involving clone duplicates. Or' date=' given the Unseelie connection, a Faerie doppelganger.[/quote'] Funny you should mention that... SPOILERS! Lurking Team F-up players ignore this post! Lillith's twin sister Eve drowned at age six and ended up ruling a dream dimension. She was a big hunted for lillith and last time Terror needed a break, Eve trapped her in a dream, putting Lillith in a coma. During a multiversal adventure, Lillith met Eve's adult counterpart, a strong and ambiguously moral telekinetic who worked for the evil Emperor Lao. Alternate Lillith was the one who drowned in that world. Alt Eve followed Lillth home and later replaced child Eve as ruler of the dream world. I planned on Mad Angus reverting to his super-villianry in order to procure a spell to make Lillith immortal. He doesn't age and can't bear to watch her grow old and die. I wanted the team (including Lillith) to investigate weird robberies around town and find the culprit was Angus, pressured into working for the shadowy mage known only as the Venetian. Angus had skipped out on his responsibilities as heir, including a betrothal to his cousin Moire. She's out to get Lillith & friends and bring home Angus. I have a sneaky idea now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooligan x Posted December 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back The departing Miss Terror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trained Chicken Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back What a total babe. No wonder she doesn't want to play tabletop anymore- she probly discovered boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandi Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back What a total babe. No wonder she doesn't want to play tabletop anymore- she probly discovered boys. Or more likely, they discovered her. Anybody who's read RPG.net's Creepiest Gamer thread will know just what I'm talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooligan x Posted December 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back She's 23 and went to a Catholic high school. Boys discovered her long ago. But Sunday is her manfriend's only day off, so you're not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monster Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back My sympathies - always a shame to lose a good player. As far as her character goes - why not simply have her disappear? Strange things always happen when the fae are involved, so you could have the court suddenly not refer to her, not mention her name, or even pretend to not remember her. She suddenly becomes a "nonperson" in a sense. Or, they could even not be pretending; their memories could have been erased, or the timeline may be altered. You could leave it hanging as a major mystery for as long as it takes you to figure out how to resolve it (by which time the other PCs will start to notice gaps in their own memories of her?). You could make it to look like she simply up and left one day, leaving all her stuff behind, or it could be as if she never existed. GMs should never close doors, especially one which may or may not ever open.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooligan x Posted December 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Re: My favorite player ain't coming back Since it's Febuary in gametime, I may interupt the remaining PCs' Valentine celebrations with the news of a tragic airlimo crash that killed a young bride and critically injured her new husband. Poor Angus, all that twisted ferrous metal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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