Kristopher Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Just picked up Millennium City, and I have a question, and a possible error to point out. The question: who is the female super depicted on page 22, page 50, page 135? I particularly like the last image, with her looking up at the statues of heroes past. The possible error: on page 22...the Irish Hills I'm familiar with are southwest of Detroit, along US 12. (My hometown is halfway from Detroit to Chicago on US 12.) I'd have to find a topographic map of Michigan to know if they actually extend very far north, but having driven I-94 to Detroit and the surrounding areas, my guess is that they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 The woman is a nobody who Storn just happens to like to draw. The character has no connection with the book what so ever; or at least does not at this point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted November 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Geez, if we don't know anything about her, isn't it kinda mean to call her a nobody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Originally posted by Kristopher Geez, if we don't know anything about her, isn't it kinda mean to call her a nobody? Yeah, I should probably take it back, but I am just too stubborn to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangog Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Do any of the game books provide greater detail on the monsters Destroyer used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeto Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Monsters? Destroyer used an orbital energy cannon to wipe out Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Originally posted by Mangog Do any of the game books provide greater detail on the monsters Destroyer used? The Millenium City Sourcebook says Dr. Destroyer setthe monster Mega-Terak on the heroes who came to fight him in the Battle of Detroit. Unfortunately, I don't know where the write-up for Mega-Terak is or even if an officail one exist. Sorry, I can't be of more help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangog Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 He also had control of the "awesomely powerful Grond," the "terrifying ice-beast Glacier" and the "fearsome monster Mega-Terak." It's Glacier and Mega-Terak I'm interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeto Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Also from what I can see Millenium City is a city only for the rich. If you don't have money you can't even get into the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Originally posted by Mangog He also had control of the "awesomely powerful Grond," the "terrifying ice-beast Glacier" and the "fearsome monster Mega-Terak." It's Glacier and Mega-Terak I'm interested in. There was a Glacier in European Enemies and DD hooked up with him in the 4th ed. Champions Universe , so it may be the same guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storn Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 The question: who is the female super depicted on page 22, page 50, page 135? I particularly like the last image, with her looking up at the statues of heroes past. Yes, its true... she has no name, no clear power set besides flight. I first drew her for Champions when asked to do a generic super flying past buildings. Then I really fell in love with her look. Now she is my stand-in, my cypher, as the "young hero, new on the scene"...so I can have her explore things like Monument Park, Spirit of Detroit (the Prometheus Statue which miraculously survived the Oribital Cannon Blast). I just drew her in a full page for the UNTIL book, showing UNTIL Branch HQ in Milennium City. So, she's popped up again. In the game I'm in, Neil, the GM, turned her from once-time hero, Chime (Kingdom of Champions) into an anti-paranormal powersuit (power gauntlets) under the name Defender (my PC calls her Ms. Defender). Defender has been missing for years and she took on the mantle for the isolationistic US Gov't. Chime used to be the girlfriend of Gearhead, a PC, who died heriocally. So the anti-paranormal stance comes thru very good role playing. But that is not how i would write her up, if asked, in the "official Champions" universe... the way i use her is that, like I said, of a young woman just starting to spread her wings, so to speak. But that is the great thing about a picture for gaming, there are infinite ways to define it within game terms. What do you think she should be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Originally posted by Kaeto Also from what I can see Millenium City is a city only for the rich. If you don't have money you can't even get into the city. Well, ouch. What are the laws on hitchhiking I wonder there? Still, he's got a point in barring that, there doesn't seem to be much chance for anyone below middle class to get in and staying to find a home. Which has interesting ramifications in and of itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Originally posted by Kaeto Also from what I can see Millenium City is a city only for the rich. If you don't have money you can't even get into the city. Actually almost all major cities seem to have this problem. House and apartment prices in NYC, LA, and San Francisco are out of this world. It is a mystery to me how poor people live in these places, but some how they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted December 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Originally posted by Storn The question: who is the female super depicted on page 22, page 50, page 135? I particularly like the last image, with her looking up at the statues of heroes past. Yes, its true... she has no name, no clear power set besides flight. I first drew her for Champions when asked to do a generic super flying past buildings. Then I really fell in love with her look. Now she is my stand-in, my cypher, as the "young hero, new on the scene"...so I can have her explore things like Monument Park, Spirit of Detroit (the Prometheus Statue which miraculously survived the Oribital Cannon Blast). I just drew her in a full page for the UNTIL book, showing UNTIL Branch HQ in Milennium City. So, she's popped up again. In the game I'm in, Neil, the GM, turned her from once-time hero, Chime (Kingdom of Champions) into an anti-paranormal powersuit (power gauntlets) under the name Defender (my PC calls her Ms. Defender). Defender has been missing for years and she took on the mantle for the isolationistic US Gov't. Chime used to be the girlfriend of Gearhead, a PC, who died heriocally. So the anti-paranormal stance comes thru very good role playing. But that is not how i would write her up, if asked, in the "official Champions" universe... the way i use her is that, like I said, of a young woman just starting to spread her wings, so to speak. But that is the great thing about a picture for gaming, there are infinite ways to define it within game terms. What do you think she should be? Let's see. She flies, but she doesn't wear any obvious armor. She could be a classic flying brick. She could also be a standard telekinetic. However, she has a certain "high-tech" look that suggests something different. Maybe an electromagnetic manipulator, with some resulting affinity for technology. She's built a few gadgets, such as the wraparound goggles that give her enhanced vision and flash defense. She can lift objects and project a protective forcefield on her own, but the belt allows her to use her powers to lift herself and fly, and the gauntlets allow her to project concentrated blasts of force at range. They also might allow her to form a forcewall, or missile deflect at range. How's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted December 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Here's a rough draft of Gauss, the character inspired by the artwork in question, and Storn's question. She still needs a couple of disads, and her background text. She uses a couple of foci to enhance her natural magnetic abilities. Let me know what you think...EDIT: Add a 10-pt Distinctive Features "Mutant Signature" Combat Information Page Character Name: Gauss Alternate Identities: Sandra Hollister Player Name: CHARACTERISTICS CHARACTER IMAGE Val Char Base Points Total Roll Notes 15 STR 10 5 15 12- HTH Damage 3d6 END [1] 23 DEX 10 39 23 14- OCV 8 DCV 8 25 CON 10 30 25 14- 12 BODY 10 4 12 11- 18 INT 10 8 18 13- PER Roll 13- 17 EGO 10 14 17 12- ECV: 6 15 PRE 10 5 15 12- PRE Attack: 3d6 14 COM 10 2 14 12- 5 PD 3 2 5/20 5/20 PD (0/15 rPD) 5 ED 5 0 5/20 5/20 ED (0/15 rED) 5 SPD 3.3 17 5 Phases: 3, 5, 8, 10, 12 10 REC 8 4 10 50 END 50 0 50 33 STUN 33 0 33 6" Running 6 0 6" 2" Swimming 2 0 2" 3"/1 1/2"" Leaping 3 0 3" 130 Total Characteristics Points EXPERIENCE POINTS Total earned: 0 Spent: 20 Unspent: 0 Base Points: 200 Disad Points: 130 Total Points: 350 MOVEMENT Type Total Run (6) 6" [12" NC] Swim (2) 2" [4" NC] H. Leap (3") 3" V. Leap (2") 1 1/2" Flight 15" [60" NC] APPEARANCE Hair Color: Light Brown Eye Color: Grey Height: 1.73 m Weight: 54.00 kg Description: DEFENSES Type Amount Notes Physical Defense 5/20 Current BODY: Res. Phys. Defense 0/15 Energy Defense 5/20 Current END: Res. Energy Defense 0/15 Mental Defense 8 Current STUN: Power Defense 0 COMBAT INFORMATION OCV: 8 DCV: 8 Combat Skill Levels: COMBAT MANEUVERS Maneuver Phase OCV DCV Effect Block 1/2 +0 +0 Block, abort Brace 0 +2 1/2 +2 vs. Range Mod. Disarm 1/2 -2 +0 Can disarm Dodge 1/2 -- +3 Abort, vs. all attacks Grab 1/2 -1 -2 Grab two limbs Grab By 1/2 -3 -4 Move and Grab Haymaker 1/2* +0 -5 +4 DC attack damage Move By 1/2 -2 -2 STR/2 + v/5 Move Through 1/2 -v/5 -3 STR + v/3 Set 1 +1 +0 Ranged Attacks only Strike 1/2 +0 +0 STR or weapon COMBAT MODIFIERS Range 0-4 5-8 9-16 17-32 33-64 65-128 RMOD 0 -2 -4 -6 -8 -10 POWERS Cost Power END 25 Electromagnetic Manipulation: Elemental Control, 50-point powers 27 1) FF (15 PD/15 ED), Hardened (+1/4), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (52 Active Points) 12 2) Telekinesis (20 STR), Fine Manipulation, Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (50 Active Points); Only Materials Affected by Magnetism (-1) 2 25 3) Telekinesis (40 STR), Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (75 Active Points); Only Materials Affected by Magnetism (-1) 3 41 Gauntlets: Multipower, 62-point reserve, (62 Active Points); all slots OIF (-1/2) 4u 1) EB 10d6, Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (62 Active Points); OIF (-1/2) 2 4u 2) FW (10 PD/10 ED), Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (62 Active Points); OIF (-1/2) 2 2u 3) HA +7d6 (35 Active Points); Hand-To-Hand Attack (-1/2), OIF (-1/2) 3 3u 4) Missile Deflection (Any Ranged Attack), Full Range (+1) (40 Active Points); OIF (-1/2) 3u 5) RKA 4d6 (60 Active Points); Metallic "Objects of Opportunity" (-1/2), OIF (-1/2) 6 10 Goggles: (Total: 15 Active Cost, 10 Real Cost) IR Perception (Sight Group) (5 Active Points); OIF (-1/2) (Real Cost: 3) plus Sight Group Flash Defense (10 points) (10 Active Points); OIF (-1/2) (Real Cost: 7) 23 Lift Belt: Flight 15", x4 Noncombat (35 Active Points); OIF (-1/2) 3 5 Static: Mental Defense (8 points total) 184 Total Powers Cost SKILLS Cost Name 3 Breakfall 14- 3 Computer Programming 13- 3 Concealment 13- 0 Conversation 8- 0 Deduction 8- 3 Electronics 13- 3 Inventor 13- 3 KS: Superhero History 13- 0 Language: English (idiomatic) (4 Active Points) 3 Mechanics 13- 3 Paramedics 13- 3 SS: Electrical Engineering 13- 3 Security Systems 13- 3 Stealth 14- 3 Systems Operation 13- 0 TF: Common Motorized Ground Vehicles, Everyman 36 Total Skills Cost DISADVANTAGES Cost Disadvantage 10 DNPC: Heather, Younger Sister 8- (Normal) 15 DNPC: Joanna, mother 8- (Normal; Unaware of character's adventuring career/Secret ID) 15 Hunted: Thwarted Villain 8- (Mo Pow, Harshly Punish) 15 Hunted: Thwarted Villain 8- (Mo Pow, Harshly Punish) 15 Psychological Limitation: Code vs Killing (Common, Strong) 10 Psychological Limitation: Curious (Common, Moderate) 15 Psychological Limitation: Protection of Innocents (Common, Strong) 20 Psychological Limitation: Sense of Responsibility (Common, Total) 15 Social Limitation: Secret ID: Sandra Hollister (Frequently, Major) 130 Total Disadvantages Cost Height: 1.73 m Hair: Light Brown Weight: 54.00 kg Eyes: Grey Appearance: Personality: Quote: Background: Powers/Tactics: Campaign Use: Character created with Hero Designer(version 2.0)Character and All Original Content created by KWG, Based on Artwork by Storn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 1/2 way between ... Detroit and Chicago on Hwy 12. Would that be Coldwater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magmarock Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Originally posted by Ranxerox Actually almost all major cities seem to have this problem. House and apartment prices in NYC, LA, and San Francisco are out of this world. It is a mystery to me how poor people live in these places, but some how they do. Yeah, but all the businesses need to employ workers/laborers to run on a daily basis, you know, the low-wage people? Perhaps the majority of them commute into the city everyday. I could see major businesses housing their workers onsite, too. (Oooh, shades of Shadow Run... proxies who sell their votes to corporations... That's it! Mister Johnson will definitely have to show up in my next game!) Mags -scheming nefariously for my next game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted December 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Re: 1/2 way between ... Originally posted by Argus Detroit and Chicago on Hwy 12. Would that be Coldwater? Could be...could be... BTW, the rail line between Detroit and Chicago that is mentioned as being very popular by 1850? A certain city was the overnight stop on that line as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted December 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Originally posted by Magmarock Yeah, but all the businesses need to employ workers/laborers to run on a daily basis, you know, the low-wage people? Perhaps the majority of them commute into the city everyday. I could see major businesses housing their workers onsite, too. (Oooh, shades of Shadow Run... proxies who sell their votes to corporations... That's it! Mister Johnson will definitely have to show up in my next game!) Mags -scheming nefariously for my next game... If you're thinking cyberpunk genre for Millenium City, you've got the wrong kind of distopia. MC is more of a touchy-feely distopia. Think "Demolition Man". MC probably has rent control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magmarock Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Ooh, that's even better! With everyone singing commercial jingles and villains getting sentenced to cyrogenic prisons. And don't forget to wear your tux when you dine at Taco Bell... Mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlestaff Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Originally posted by Magmarock Ooh, that's even better! With everyone singing commercial jingles and villains getting sentenced to cyrogenic prisons. And don't forget to wear your tux when you dine at Taco Bell... Don't forget police who get confused when people don't conform to their utopian views, and do what they can to 'correct' them......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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