Metaphysician

Re: How would Stronghold imprison your character? You know, to an extent, a good portion of this debate is moot, as the odds Mega Evil is capable of causing casual slaughter on the magnitude described, and yet is also capable of being contained by a hyperbaric chamber? Small. Just look at the long list of major Champions villains. Among the mega villains, the only one for whom this would be a significant impediment is the Warlord, and his main escape option is "rescue from outside." Ditto but moreso for Dr Destroyer and Istvatha ( and she could always use her D-travel to go somewhere with immediate medical facilities, in the unlikely event she were imprisoned ), Takofanes doesn't breath, Menton is going to just mind control the whole facility, Gravitar could power skill a "gravitationally-retained high pressure air bubble" eventually. . . Stepping down the threat scale, you still have people like Firewing, who doesn't need to breath, Holocaust, who could probably *absorb* the high pressure to supercharge himself, Zarran has a life support spell. . . Put simply, villains of the power scale for the "Mega Evil" scenarios to be relevant, are generally going to find the hyperbaric chamber a minor impediment at best.

Re: How would Stronghold imprison your character? There is the side question: Why, exactly, was Mega Evil not given a capital sentence? Also, how was he contained for trial, if he's capable of such degree of power? These complicate the matter, but you can bet they *will* come up, so. . .

Re: How would Stronghold imprison your character? A somewhat bigger problem with "hyperbaric chamber as universal solution": it isn't. Off the top of my head, among the variety of superhumans for whom it'd be ineffective. . . -Anybody who doesn't have to breath ( obvious ) -Most shape shifters ( if you don't have blood, or can choose to not have blood. . . ) -Bricks and regenerators of beyond a certain calibre ( too much stamina to be effected ) -Telepaths ( just mind control the guards into doing a decompression cycle first ) -Cyberkinetics ( as above, except more direct ) -At least some chi empowered martial artists ( those for whom self-healing is available, basically ) -Super geniuses ( whether their contingencies are manipulative or scientific, premade get-out-of-jail plans can totally take the chamber into account, possibly by yanking the entire thing out and carrying it along in an escape ) -Most spellcasters ( any who can duplicate one of the above effects, basically ) A lot of these have their own solutions, but the point is, hyper baric chamber is not the be all, end all universal solution, even if you *are* ruthless.

Re: How would Stronghold imprison your character? Not to mention the side issue: even if she's somehow drained of all quantum points, she could *still* probably activate all her major powers by burning a couple health levels, and still be more than healthy enough to smash her way to freedom. Anyway. . . Microman II: Some kind of electromagnetic override could keep him contained, and immobile. Beyond that, there's not much that'd be feasible. I seriously doubt Stronghold has adequate tech to stop a microverse-level shrinker. Diomedes: whatever gets used as ultra maximum security containment for nonpowered types would work for him, at least for a while. This is presuming that Athena didn't decide she needed him free, now. Hermes: Keep him drained 24/7, keep him from being able to move, keep him from being able to see anything technological. That would probably do it. Unless he gets so desperate that he does something horrible to time. . . Mereneptah: Draining him dry wouldn't be good enough, whatever containments measures have to keep him from actively using his powers at all. And don't talk to him, *ever*.

Re: How would Stronghold imprison your character?

Re: Algernon Files Plot Seeds, anyone? Prodigal decides he wants to retire from the mercenary business. So he and the rest of the Black Knights case and plan their last job. Specifically, the conquest of a nation. Anybody here read Aberrant: Worldwide Phase II. Yeah, basically like that.

Re: Defending the Earth: Giant Asteroid Eh, 450 km across? Unless specifically planted for such purpose, nukes won't fragment the thing. You would need to do some clever-ish stuff to get a nuke to meaningfully move the thing, though. Or maybe not; after all, setting off a bunch of nukes near or on the thing is basically same principle as an Orion type pulse engine. . .

Re: WWYC say after meeting YOU? Hermes: "Why are you huddled in a corner, wimpering and in a fetal position?"

Re: Defending the Earth: Giant Asteroid Given one of his plots involved *throwing apocalyptic asteroids at Earth*, I'm not sure if Dr Destroyer is the best guy to call in to help. . .

Re: Defending the Earth: Giant Asteroid Microman II: Can't do anything directly to the asteroid, but between Horus-Re, Starguard, Warp, and Princess Cyrande, there's really no need. OTOH, I'm sure those aliens have computer systems for him to hack, and machinery for him to destroy. Diomedes: Is so out of his league it isn't funny. Reports it to Horus-Re, UNTIL, and whatnot, and hopes for the best. If he for whatever reason ends up in an alien war stronghold. . . well, he'll do his best. Hermes: Substituting oracular prescience or such for a means to spot the incoming asteroid, as nobody really has radio. . . his interest in space travel could help, a lot. What with building life support and transport vessels and such. Realistically, though, once the problem is known, the asteroid probably gets destroyed by someone openning a gate out to it, and then the Champion of Ra blowing it up. Mereneptah: Similar to Hermes, except without the space travel interest. If the situation absolutely required him to deal with it personally, though, he'd have a shot at destroying or redirecting the asteroid through weeks spent transmuting it into explosives, then blowing it up. This presumes no active interference, though.

Re: I'd rather be me than my character because... I'd rather be me than Hermes because: 1. I'm alive, he isn't at the moment. 2. I am not capable of his level of optimism and will 3. I don't want to exist in the same multiverse as at least a half-dozen of the villains he faces.

Re: Death of the Jester Many of my characters couldn't really coexist in a setting where the Jester existed. Not the evil and death count; its the 'revolving door asylum', 'no death penalty', and 'shooting a criminal who is actively threatening others treated as a crime.' That said, none of my PCs would be horrified by such. Diomedes and Mereneptah would investigate to make *sure* the Jester is dead.

Re: The Deconstructing of Wynnie Wonder

Re: The Deconstructing of Wynnie Wonder Microman II: This scenario presses pretty much every button he has. Expect a full blown legal campaign for android rights, backed by the resources of the New Sentinels. And while not something he'd think of, specifically, odds of Wynnie being 'impounded' by the New Sentinels 'for the safety of the people around her' approaches 100%. After all, legally, either she's an out of control self-willed AI, *or* the company controlling her is in fact liable for any damage she's done. They can pick one or the other. ( this also, not coincidentally, means they have a harder time covering up evidence, and/or engaging in spite reprogramming/destruction ) Diomedes: Not so strongly inclined to go full crusade mode, he'd nonetheless probably think of the legal angle mentioned above. At which point, the name of the game is probably spinning everything so the mayor backs Aegis on the matter. Hermes: Scenario as such can't really happen in his own time without major modification. However, if visiting another time, it'd horrify him, once he's suitably convinced Wynnie is self-aware. He'd figure a way to remove the recent reprogramming, post haste, and also disable any interlocks that let anyone reprogram her, ever again. Legal threats would not dissuade him, in the slightest. Mereneptah: See Hermes, re- scenario in own time. If time displaced, however, this situation would strike him as all too sadly familiar, in the broad strokes. While he's probably not skilled enough to do brute force deprogramming or suchlike, he probably could sneak and steal copies of EEI's files easily enough. At that point, its a matter of faking Wynnie's death.

Re: Approved by the Comics Code Authority Microman II: I don't think he'd be effected at all. Diomedes: Silver Age Batman rather than Bronze Age, in a nutshell. Not a real significant change. Hermes: Forget Hermes personally, the setting in general would need such an extensive rewrite as to be almost incomprehensible. Not that such things are thrown around gratuitously, but pretty much every one of those rules is violated at one point or another. Hermes personally? Actually wouldn't mind living in a world where those rules were natural law. But then, most sane beings would prefer to live in a world where Gehinnom can't exist. ( Gehinnom: Imagine a self-made Satan building Apokalips on Earth )

Re: WWYCD #124 or so:Peace on Earth . . .not so much.

Re: Entombment Spell with no air. I'd go with an Entangle ( Blocks Senses ), with a linked EB 2d6 ( NND, Does Body, 0 END, Continuous; Only does Body after target reaches unconsciousness, Only lasts until the Entangle is escaped ).

Re: WWIYCL? Living Among Giants Microman II: "Isn't he one of those new Sentinels guys?" Hermes: "I don't know, he helped build the aqueduct to our town, but he also seems to be friends with all kinds of sketchy people, like that Artemis goddess. . ."

Re: Reborn Into History Microman II: "I am relatively inexperienced at this, having just initialized 2.3 years ago. Perhaps you meant to speak with the other Sentinels?" OTOH, if the Old Woman checks out, he might just accept. . . Hermes: ". . .you said there were seven of them, and all but you have been. . . imprisoned? Okay, how about you start from the beginning, and explain what the hell is going on?" The cosmological incompatibilities might be too much for the scenario. . . and the coincidence of *seven* immortals has some unpleasant resonances for Hermes. Then again, so does 'reining in the Darkness.'

Re: WWYCD 101:A question of faith As an aside, no, most of my characters wouldn't go for the "burn them all, for they have brought ruin upon themselves" course. . . in this scenario. That response is reserved for the *Omelas* variant of this concept.

Re: Good Luck, Superchuck None of my significant PCs would be effected. Microman II is an android, and Hermes is both not very sexually active, and only really would be interested in other superhumans.

Re: Random WTF moment... Microman II: "This is completely impossible. Mind if I watch?" And he'd do just that. Hermes: Would put it down to either a very weird Chosen*, or some kind of bizarre natural phenomena. Either way, he'd try to question the painter about his nature, and what he's doing. *generally accepted non-denominational term for superhumans, whether they consider themselves gods, heroes, spirits, wizards, etc

Re: Champions and the IRS Thats one thing I tend to consider: in a non-iron age setting, the government *isn't* going to spending significant amounts of its time and resources tracking down the secret IDs of heroes. They have much more important things to do with their time.

Re: DEMON plot help (Warning: Spoilers) Repped.

Re: The Qualaties of Doom I'd say the only things you really need to change for Doom to become a hero, or at least a neutral, are: -The desire to force control of the world around him has to be removed. He may think it is his right to rule his own nation, and he may think he *should* rule the world ( or manipulate it ), but the willingness to use force to control everything around him has to go -Fanatic hatred of ____ needs to be eliminated, or at least radically toned down ( depending on if ____ is himself a hero or villain ) -Ruthlessness needs to be scaled down somewhat Hero-Doom can still rule as absolute monarch his own country ( not like various heroes haven't ), still think he's the smartest guy in the world, still think the world should obey him ( but uses less violent and coercive means to achieve such ), and still be willing to use extreme ( but justifiably so ) methods to achieve his goals.