pbemguy

S'alright.

An update on the Champions Campaign Wiki: I imagined that the wiki would pick up in October. And here we are in October! Points to Ponder 1. The wiki is now open to any edition of Champions, not just 6e*. (Champions Now and Fuzion included.) 2. It's not a campaign wiki anymore. It's a character wiki. Please upload any characters in any edition. We no longer are going for a unified theme.* 3. Please include a picture of your uploaded character. Use Fabrica de Herois or some other character designer. 4. You don't need permission to upload to the wiki. Go for it! 5. If you get your character uploaded, I'll make sure it's linked in to the wiki as a whole (indexed etc.) 6. There is no template*. Use any method as long as it can be interpreted by Hero players. *The previous restrictions seem to be hampering it. I am confident if we let it grow naturally we will be pleased and surprised by what emerges.

Post in ANY edition. Just indicate which edition it is. The wiki is mostly just a place to post a whole bunch of characters. That's 99% it. I just saw a lot of people posting great characters on this forum and thought that, if only it were cataloged, people who have never played Champions could see just how amazing it is. It will draw new people in to the system, I'm certain. Which will bring in more players, more money for the property, leading to higher-quality publications. And, most importantly, it will be super-easy to host a tabletop game because everyone will be playing it! As it stands, it's a big hassle to try to wrangle a bunch of characters together by doing searches on the forum. Wouldn't it be nice if all of that stuff was put together, like in Enemies or the Handbook of the Marvel Universe? (Answer: Yes!) So, post a character here, on this thread, or post it on the wiki. To post on the wiki, just click on "Add new page" and paste your character. I can patch it into the right place afterwards--I'll see it. PS: People keep hinting that there needs to be a template. That's in the works. But for now, post what you got. For a template-in-the-works, see https://championsrpg.fandom.com/wiki/Blastforce PPS: Try to do a pic in Fabrica de Herois (FH Animated)

I'm on it. It should be up by the time you read this.

I think part of the problem may be my explaining what the wiki is, and what it is not. I will explain below. This is absolutely the answer, in my opinion. Yes! Effective immediately, post in ANY edition, and indicate which edition it is. The wiki is mostly just a place to post a whole bunch of characters. That's 99% it. I just saw a lot of people posting great characters on this forum and thought that, if only it were cataloged, people who have never played Champions could see just how amazing it is. It will draw new people in to the system, I'm certain. Which will bring in more players, more money for the property, leading to higher-quality publications. And, most importantly, it will be super-easy to host a tabletop game because everyone will be playing it! As it stands, it's a big hassle to try to wrangle a bunch of characters together by doing searches on the forum. Wouldn't it be nice if all of that stuff was put together, like in Enemies or the Handbook of the Marvel Universe? (Answer: Yes!) So, post a character here, on this thread, or post it on the wiki. To post on the wiki, just click on "Add new page" and paste your character. I can patch it into the right place afterwards--I'll see it.

I hear ya. But, for whatever reason, the most interest in the wiki seems to be from 5e players. And I see a lot of threads for 5e builds here on the herogames forums. I could be wrong, but perhaps there is something about 5e that lends itself more to the wiki than 4e or 6e?

I see your point. And I messaged Hopcroft right after I posted the thread because I did see how he might have meant that. But in the moment when I saw the quote I was feeling frustrated and I (mis?)interpreted it to mean that 6e is a fun thought experiment but isn't meant for actual gaming. Regardless, I'm very close to changing it (the wiki) over to a 5e project. Reasoning: there aren't enough 6e players to justify moving forward in that vein. Am I wrong? The smart decision, it seems to me from the participation levels thus far, is to change it over to 5e and allow for 6e conversions. I have people wanting to post stuff in 5e. I'm not upset*...I imagined this was a possibility. My first instinct upon coming back to the forums--regarding "saving" Champions--was to lobby for a rollback to 5e; perusing the forums made me think that I may have been wrong. This experience is making me return to that original conclusion. I completely understand if this is a sore spot on this forum: how could it not be? But if everyone is finished with the debate and has no further comments, then I'll proceed with an educated guess. *TRANSLATION: I'm upset 😝

Hi folks. I'm one of the curators of the wiki. I'm having the inevitable doubts. I feel like no one is using 6e. My logic for using 6e was that it was the future of Hero Games. But.... It was Michael Hopcroft's (a member here) sig file that hammered it home to me: "6th Edition is for entertainment purposes only." Should I even be building this in 6e? I had been away from the forum here for a couple of years, came back. I originally felt that the future of Hero was rolling back to 5e, and taking Michael Hopcroft's quote literally: treat 6e as a wonderful experiment, but proceed with 5e. Thoughts?

UPDATE: We'll give this a couple more days. What we need is a complete team, including 6e write-ups and pics. I think the superteam has to be submitted fully to qualify. Because: based on my experience with the wiki thus far, people will only work on their own characters. What I mean is, if we pick a team name and describe the characters only, no one will step in and build the chosen characters. This is not a complaint. It makes total sense. My experience with Hero players is that we want to do it all: the character concept right through to the build. No one wants to build someone else's concept, no matter how highly voted. So, basically, if you are the only one to submit a fully completed team on this thread, it will be the campaign world's superteam!

I'm with you.

You're in! ;) I'm not currently running this campaign, but once it gets up to speed (i.e. 75+ characters or so) I will probably run a Play-By-Email in this setting. Note: This world is wide open at this point development-wise. I set design parameters sometimes (e.g. this thread) but I try to only referee and just let the campaign setting develop a life of its own. (I set the parameters so that people can comfortably participate. I decided to use Marvel's Avengers as somewhat of a template to give people a starting point. I'll probably set another thread that says something like, "Design the Wiki's Teen Titans" at some point if this one works!)

I like "Second Chances" (s06e24). The concept blew my socks off when I first saw it and I still love it. Commander Riker comes face to face with an exact duplicate of himself, created years earlier by a transporter phenomenon. "Tin Man" (s03e20) is also one of my favorites: Telepath Tam Elbrun (Harry Groener) joins the crew to investigate a bio ship detected near a star about to go supernova. As the crew investigates, the Romulans threaten the Enterprise and the creature, Gomtuu, and Elbrun boards it with Lt. Commander Data. Honorable mention: "The Outrageous Okona" (s02e04) because of Billy Campbell (didja know he was in the running to play Riker?). And Teri Hatcher is also in it. As the Federation starship Enterprise, under the command of Captain Jean-Luc Picard, passes through the Coalition of Madena, it detects a small cargo ship, under manual control by its single occupant. The crew makes contact with the pilot, Captain Thadiun Okona (Billy Campbell), who requests help to repair a part on his ship. Captain Picard agrees, and the Enterprise tows Okona's ship while Okona is brought on board. The crew soon finds that Okona has taken a keen interest in the women on the ship, beginning with Transporter Chief Robinson (Teri Hatcher in an uncredited role) and is in no rush to effect repairs. I also enjoy any Ensign Ro episode. I just really like her character.

I think we could possibly use "Champions" for the superteam name. We/I could look into that. But....let's see what everyone thinks first. It's not a bad name, and I understand the spirit of it, but it might not be where we're heading. My feeling is that, given the nature of this project, we would be able to use it. But there's also a good chance that it won't be the name chosen by this thread. I'll personally investigate if it's looking promising. Still, there seem to be some moments where we're veering back into using things that already exist. My feeling is: we should avoid that anyway, not for legal reasons but just for the sake of being creative. VIPER is awesome. Dr. D is the bomb. But we're building something new here!

We're fine mentioning VIPER etc., but in my mind I think we should be aiming at designing our own villains and organizations. VIPER, like COBRA, is based on snakes. Can we make an evil agency based on something else? (I love VIPER, but the point of the wiki is to make a whole new campaign world!)

(I did put a "copyright steriaca" blurb on your pages, but we can remove that. I want to leave it for now so people can see how it's done.) Yes, I see it the same way. It's just like the old Enemies books: there were characters I used all the time and some I almost never used. But it was nice to occasionally have the rare ones show up and catch everyone off guard.