The Vanguard Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Hi I take that Card Shark didn't make the cut for Dark Champions 5th version, too bad that was a good Villian orgization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark I noticed that apparent omission too. Perhaps they were a little too "four color" for where Steve is taking official street-level vigilante sourcebooks. Probably why they were one of my favorite parts of the old DC setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eosin Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark I like CS We used them quite a bit in our street level game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark With all due respect, you people really need to stop leaping to conclusions. It's not as if I'm not hanging around answering questions. Look at the size of Dark Champions and use a little common sense. There isn't room for an entire organization -- not to mention the fact that our genre books don't include organizations, just a handful of individual villains. I'll put Card Shark somewhere in Hudson City or Predators, where there's room for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eosin Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark I'll put Card Shark somewhere in Hudson City or Predators' date='[/i'] where there's room for him. I can sleep easily now knowing that all is good and Card Shark remains to bludgeon my characters. You know, I paid good points for an extra 8" of Superleap, Only to Conclusions.(-1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vanguard Posted August 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark I hope Card Shark and his orgization will be in future Dark Champions source books Mr Long, the Blue Moon Killer had history with that group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshka Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark I hate to be the one who brings this up, but the sample characters in the playtest files had "Hunted: Card Shark". Sounds like evidence to me that we'll be seeing the Card Shark organization at some point. Now, whether we're still on Card Shark V or Harbinger has done some more weeding out of the group .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark the Blue Moon Killer had history with that group There's no need to tell me about things that I wrote about in earlier books. I played through every single bullet and point of BODY damage in that history, believe you me -- including hundreds of games' worth of incidents that have yet to see the light of day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark You know, I paid good points for an extra 8" of Superleap, Only to Conclusions.(-1) Damn! I knew I forgot something in the Super-Skills section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark My apologies, Steve. Not having seen mention of Card Shark among the prominent villains in the upcoming Predators DC sourcebook (which includes some returnees), I just assumed they weren't going to be updated to 5E. What they say about "ass u me" obviously applies in my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vanguard Posted August 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark What made Card Shark specially the latest verison, is that he is the perfect criminal mastermind for Dark Champions world. The lastest version of Card Shark is a guy you would hate, He has a perect body and mind and a ego to match his superiority complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad GM Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark I for one, would LOVE to see a Card Shark book, like VIPER. Ooh, ooh, and I want to do all the illustrations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark Hey, just because you created the character, Mad GM, don't go gettin' all uppity. But I feel reasonably confident Andy will offer that particular section of illustrations (in whatever book ol' Sharky appears in) to you. It just wouldn't be just to do otherwise, and I'm all about the Justice. he is the perfect criminal mastermind for Dark Champions world The thing that makes him worth putting in HC or Predators from a creative/publishing perspective is that he's so readily adaptable to many styles of play. Ordinarily a "theme" character with a costume would work best in DC:TAS... but I've already got plenty for that book who only fit in that book. Card Shark can be played lots of ways, from really gritty to lighthearted, in a way that characters like Anagram, the Astrologer, and Rhapsody really can't. So I can write him up and discuss all the options in the appropriate book. Not having seen mention of Card Shark among the prominent villains in the upcoming Predators DC sourcebook (which includes some returnees), I just assumed they weren't going to be updated to 5E. NP. The truth is, since I haven't made up my mind where to put him, I figured it was safest not to mention him. But it just wouldn't be Dark Champions if there wasn't some guy in a costume flinging razor-sharp cards at my head somewhere along the line.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Card Shark Actually, an extended Card Sharks book along the same lines as VIPER: CotS would be extremely cool. I'd buy it...oh wait, I buy all the books whether I want them or not.......I'd buy two then Im so looking forward to Dark Champions. It's my favorite super oriented genre. Sadly, my entire usual group detests the genre. Anyone need a player for a DC game? I have my own copy of the rulebook and have played in the HERO System once or twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Card Shark Humm...prehaps there should be an orginzation book for Card Shark...I mean, there are at least 52 agents (Ace through King, one of each sute), plus 'extrordinarie' agents to repersent such card related terms as Muligan, Poker-Face, Red Queen, Dead Man's Hand, Full House (well, prehaps not Full House, but you know what I mean...) Humm...I don't remember a "Muligan" in Card Shark...but the word has come to be known as 'discard your first hand if you have a crapy hand'. Which reminds me, would the Card Shark supliment work better as a colectabul card game? Colect them all!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Card Shark Anyone need a player for a DC game? I can sympathize. I wrote the original DC in part to get people to run more of the types of games I wanted to play in -- but I still haven't gotten to play in nearly as many as I'd like. But I am really looking forward to the game Keneton has promised to run for me at GenCon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Card Shark With all due respect' date=' you people really need to stop leaping to conclusions. It's not as if I'm not hanging around answering questions. [/quote'] But it's our second favorite hobby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Card Shark I can sleep easily now knowing that all is good and Card Shark remains to bludgeon my characters. I'm glad you liked them Eosin. You known they'll probably be creeping around in the Conclave campaign when I start it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCUBA Hero Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Card Shark plus 'extrordinarie' agents to repersent such card related terms as Muligan' date=' Poker-Face, Red Queen, Dead Man's Hand, Full House (well, prehaps not Full House, but you know what I mean...)[/quote']Full House would be a good name for a villain with multiple personalities... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Re: Card Shark That reminds me...can anyone list the rouster of non-generic Card Shark agents? (I.E: no 5th of Clubs, but someone like Pokerface). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Re: Card Shark I'm glad you liked them Eosin. You known they'll probably be creeping around in the Conclave campaign when I start it. If I won the lottery tomorrow Id move you to San Diego and pay you to be my full time GM, but only if you promised to run a reprise of the Omega Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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