Chuckg Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Unstoppable IMO' date=' the option that involves extra STR, Only to Add to Casual STR, is by far the best way to go.[/quote'] Brilliant. I'd rep you for this, but I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Serpent Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Unstoppable While I have that many dice in my bag...I would hate to have to roll em. Can you imagine the 4 minutes it would take to calc BODY? Eh, sometimes that's what players are for . "He hits, for 50d6. Roll it, take the damage, let me know how much knockback you take. Meanwhile, Bob, your action..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal'daka Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Unstoppable Actually according to Galactic champions you would nees a 360 Str to move moon. You need a 225 to move a mountain. Still point taken will be lowering that a bit... have not play tested him yet to see effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Unstoppable IMO' date=' the option that involves extra STR, Only to Add to Casual STR, is by far the best way to go.[/quote'] I have bought up Only for Casual STR so that Casual and Normal STR are the same. The SFX was that he was a Bane-type guy/adrenaline junky. He also had this nifty little accidental change for overstrengthing (eg "oops...I broke it again. Sometimes I just don't know my own strength."). I used a -1 for the lim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magmarock Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Unstoppable As a rule, I agree. But sometimes SFX (ye grande olde trumpe carde) would warrant that a movement power can help you break out of an entangle. If you are stick in a goo-blob entangle your jet pack flight may help you to bust on out. If it was bought as an EB... yes. IMO, using a movement power to cause damage (or as an attack power), SFX or no, would be cheesy and borderline cheating. I'd rule against it on principle, as a GM. Mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WhammeWhamme Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Unstoppable If it was bought as an EB... yes. IMO, using a movement power to cause damage (or as an attack power), SFX or no, would be cheesy and borderline cheating. I'd rule against it on principle, as a GM. Mags I'd be a bit of a bastard about it, I think. "Sure you can use the jet pack... as a Move Through on the entangle. Hope this works... (if it didn't break out, ow) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Unstoppable It would depend entirely on SFX. A jetback is going to burn through some entangles, but I'd hate to be the typical jetpack wearing character caught up in a flaming glue entangle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Loner Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Unstoppable How about buying Flight with a 1/4 Advantage "Adds to STR for escaping Entangles"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Unstoppable How about buying Flight with a 1/4 Advantage "Adds to STR for escaping Entangles"? Maybe. But it would so SFX dependent on WHICH entangles that I would be hard pressed to rationalise it as an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Unstoppable If it was bought as an EB... yes. IMO' date=' using a movement power to cause damage (or as an attack power), SFX or no, would be cheesy and borderline cheating. I'd rule against it on principle, as a GM.[/quote'] Ah well, we disagree. For me its not much different than starting fires with an EB or something. It's just one of those juicy side effects of SFX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D?M Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Re: Unstoppable Had a character once, a brick based on Juggernaut. Had a elemental control framewoirk that bordered on "just too much" Spent most of his time in Hero ID because of his limitations. Normal stats at max of 20 in non-heroic persona. IN heroic persona: ST 106, DX 30, CN 61, BD 33, IN 10, EG 10, PR 46, CO 10 PD 30, ED 30, SPD 4, REC 52, END 122, STN 117 Elemental Control (Mystic Stone powers) IIF stone focus independent focus only in hero ID dmg resistance 33p/e life support (full) mental def 40 PD reduction (resistant) 75% ED reduction (resistant) 75% knockbk resistance 20 power def 33 flash def (sight and sound) 16 15-pt growth, 0 end, persistent, always on +9d6 HA, 1/2 END, only when moving superleap +22 str +71 dex +20 con +41 bod +20 pre +36 rec +20 OCV +10, all attks Many opponenets had some difficulty to confiscate the stone focus. Often killed people accidentally even when he pulled punches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyendasky80 Posted December 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Re: Unstoppable I'd like to get this guy in under 400 points, but I can live with between 400 and 450. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D?M Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Re: Unstoppable I'd like to get this guy in under 400 points' date=' but I can live with between 400 and 450.[/quote'] If you are speaking of my RAMPAGE character with the "just too much" elemental control framework, he is under 400. I will post the costs tonight. He has no special fighting maneuvers (Multipower of tricks), just brawn and smash like Grond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyendasky80 Posted December 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Re: Unstoppable I was referring to the original topic of this post, Juggernaut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D?M Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Re: Unstoppable I was referring to the original topic of this post' date=' Juggernaut.[/quote'] Sorry, my bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyendasky80 Posted December 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Re: Unstoppable No apology needed. We're pretty far off the rails by now. 500! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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