Kristopher Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 ...a character with a 12d6 EB and a Cosmic VPP to use the VPP to add dice to the EB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauxdeigh Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Would you allow... ...a character with a 12d6 EB and a Cosmic VPP to use the VPP to add dice to the EB? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Would you allow... By the rules? Sure. If he's violating my campaign guidelines? No. But I may allow a limitation on the VPP control costs if compliance with my campaign guidelines restricts the VPP enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Would you allow... Probably, unless the SX of the VPP specifically forbid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Would you allow... That depends on the specific situation. If I had a hard campaign limit on how many DCs someone could throw downrange, no I wouldn't. However since it doesn't in general violate the rules, I would in general allow it. One of those things I would talk to the player about before the character saw the light of day in my campaign. Make sure we were on the same page as to what the VPP could and could not be used for, and put limitations on it if necessary to reflect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Black Lotus Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Would you allow... ...a character with a 12d6 EB and a Cosmic VPP to use the VPP to add dice to the EB? Sure. As long as they're six-siders, and the character in question is played by a sexy woman who seduces me during gaming sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Would you allow... Sure...as long as it did not break any Dc limits (if any)....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy_The_Ruthles Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Would you allow... as long as none of the other players minded and it didnt' break the campain rules, though technically you're not supposed to put naked power advantages in a framework, i do it all the time for magic (to get flaming swords etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Would you allow... I would allow it but if you feel it's a points issue you might want to consider allowing the character to use an aid to his energy blast in the VPP. A 3d6 aid [from a 30 point VPP] is quite a bit more limiting than +6d6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runehammer Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Would you allow... Sure, as long as you realize that you are within your rights to create a villain with the same power setup.... with a slightly higher speed 'n' dex, just to make sure he knows what it feels like.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Would you allow... The points in a VPP can add to any other power or characteristic you have: EB, STR, whatever. That's one of my reasons for not liking VPPs, at least in their current form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Would you allow... Tyrannon the Conqueror has the Limitation "Cannot Add To Or Modify Other Powers Or Characteristics" (-1/4). You might want to use this for the character, if you don't like the full-on freedom that comes with a VPP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Would you allow... The points in a VPP can add to any other power or characteristic you have: EB, STR, whatever. That's one of my reasons for not liking VPPs, at least in their current form. Assuming of course that that is how the VPP is purchased. The nice thing about HERO is that their "current form" is however you want them to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Would you allow... Of course two power frameworks are not supposed to be able to add together. So if you have the 12d6 eb in a MP you're not technically supposed to be able to add them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Re: Would you allow... Of course two power frameworks are not supposed to be able to add together. So if you have the 12d6 eb in a MP you're not technically supposed to be able to add them together. Good point...though for my Galactic star knight write up I violate that rule flat out they have a small Multi and a VPP: Booster pool that Only boosts STR or a power thats part of thier armor...Bad me bad bad me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Black Lotus Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Re: Would you allow... Of course two power frameworks are not supposed to be able to add together. So if you have the 12d6 eb in a MP you're not technically supposed to be able to add them together. I think you can if it's +Damage -- you know, +4d6 EB, etcetera. I'm almost certainly wrong, you probably have to have that as a separate Power... yeah... I've been into the liquor cabinet this evening, sorry. I'll just have to go back and look at that section of the rules again. I love crunchy roleplaying systems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Re: Would you allow... In a campaign with 450+ points and the understanding that the VPP can never improve it above the DC limits of the campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Re: Would you allow... Of course two power frameworks are not supposed to be able to add together. So if you have the 12d6 eb in a MP you're not technically supposed to be able to add them together. Very true, but the same section of the rules mentions that sometimes doing so is appropriate. One of the ways I generally handle magic is requiring that all spells be in a multipower. Really powerful mages get a small VPP to do minor things, and to give additional power to the spells in their MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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