transmetahuman Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god I like the idea of the Awarder only being at Olympic games. That's his schtick. And a counterpart making villains is cool. Perhaps expand it to an entire Pantheon of being doing this. This allows you to keep the Awarder to the original idea and expanding it to other areas of influence. Each Being will have their own schtick and creiteria for creating one of the Elevated. One does Nobel winners, definitely. I can't come up with any kind of award/contest for villainous types, not suprisingly. But I want to keep the theme going. Actually I wouldn't be suprised, given the popularity of books and sites dedicated to serial killers, if there wasn't some kind of explicit rating system on some web site that killers could be #1 on. I'm shuddering to think about the being that awards the Miss Universe Pageant winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god One does Nobel winners, definitely. I can't come up with any kind of award/contest for villainous types, not suprisingly. But I want to keep the theme going. Actually I wouldn't be suprised, given the popularity of books and sites dedicated to serial killers, if there wasn't some kind of explicit rating system on some web site that killers could be #1 on. I'm shuddering to think about the being that awards the Miss Universe Pageant winners. Gives new import to "America's Most Wanted" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god The Olympians is a group of super powered individuals who have decided that mankind needs to be ushered into a new era and has thrown off country allegiances in their quest for this goal. ... So what do you think? Anyone has any other ideas? An idea might be that the Awarder or The Olympians have designated an area of Earth as their own and started up a new country, or maybe have occupied Greece itself and tried started a super breeding program. Another might be that the Awarder uses the supers in conglomerates around the globe to be "watchdogs" and this explains why (nearly) every country has a supergroup, even if no one in the group is native to that country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god One does Nobel winners' date=' definitely. I can't come up with any kind of award/contest for villainous types, not suprisingly. But I want to keep the theme going. Actually I wouldn't be suprised, given the popularity of books and sites dedicated to serial killers, if there wasn't some kind of explicit rating system on some web site that killers could be #1 on.[/quote'] The FBI's "Most Wanted" list? Does INTERPOL have a simular list? What happens to those who win two or more gold medals, either in different events or same event in different Olympads? Do they get more points or does he show only for the first one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teflon Billy Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god If you were going with an earlier period in time (like Hermit said, the early 1900s Olympics) then I'd think your idea would be fine. But modern Olympic athletes (IMO) do not represent quintesential humanity, they represent a severely distorted aspect of the human condition. They may be perfectly well adjusted people, but they just do not live the normal human condition. They are extremely specialized humans, and as Heinlein said it best: A human being should be able to change a diaper' date=' plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, write a sonnet, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, solve equations, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.[/quote'] And just because OddHat's Dahmer was just soooo disgustingly creepy you have to use him. TB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle A. Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god The FBI's "Most Wanted" list? Does INTERPOL have a simular list? What happens to those who win two or more gold medals, either in different events or same event in different Olympads? Do they get more points or does he show only for the first one? I don't think it would be an issue. They wouldn't be allowed to compete in the Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god As for the Armored people' date=' we must remember in the real world athletes have interest outside of their sports. So it is quite possible that one of them becomes a super-inventor and creates for himself a battle suit. [/quote'] I would be inclined to disagree, compeating at that level requires almost a monomical focus. I can only imagine how much that would be reamped up if one of the possible prizes is immortality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god I would be inclined to disagree' date=' compeating at that level requires almost a monomical focus. I can only imagine how much that would be reamped up if one of the possible prizes is immortality.[/quote'] Not really. Well. not all the time. Iron Maiden's lead singer Bruce Dickinson was asked to join the UKs Olympic Fencing Team in the late 1980s/early 1990s or so. Which puts him at Olypmic level for that sport. On top of that he's a singer in a world famous band and he learned to fly airplanes... While many let the sport occupy their entire breathing existance it certainly doesn't have to be that way. Humans are particularly brain damaged sometimes when it comes to things like this IMO. competition for the sake of competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god They are extremely specialized humans' date=' and as Heinlein said it best:[/quote'] Hmm, I don't know about butchering a hog. Unless it was like "butcher shop" butchering a hog that is already dead. But I can do the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamamura Posted August 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god Not really. Well. not all the time. Iron Maiden's lead singer Bruce Dickinson was asked to join the UKs Olympic Fencing Team in the late 1980s/early 1990s or so. Which puts him at Olypmic level for that sport. On top of that he's a singer in a world famous band and he learned to fly airplanes... While many let the sport occupy their entire breathing existance it certainly doesn't have to be that way. Humans are particularly brain damaged sometimes when it comes to things like this IMO. competition for the sake of competition. And Elvis Stojko (Canadian Figure Skater) beside being a world class skater is also a martial arts expert and IIRC also is a musician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god A human being should be able to change a diaper' date=' plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, write a sonnet, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, solve equations, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.[/quote'] I guess I'm not a good human in Heinlein's eyes. I've never butchered any animal, can't write sonnets, poetry, or songs, set a bone (effectively -- although I know the theory), or program a computer (unless HTML counts). But then, I've heard that Heinlein was very much a "Renaissance Man," and could do all those things, which is why his heroes tended to be able to do so many different things as well (take a look at Oscar Gordon for example). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teflon Billy Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god I guess I'm not a good human in Heinlein's eyes. I've never butchered any animal' date=' can't write sonnets, poetry, or songs, set a bone (effectively -- although I know the theory), or program a computer (unless HTML counts). But then, I've heard that Heinlein was very much a "Renaissance Man," and could do all those things, which is why his heroes tended to be able to do so many different things as well (take a look at Oscar Gordon for example).[/quote'] Hmm' date=' I don't know about butchering a hog. Unless it was like "butcher shop" butchering a hog that is already dead. But I can do the rest.[/quote'] People, it's not that we have to be able to do all those things now but se should aspire to be able to all of these things (or equally important things of this nature). Don't know how to butcher a hog? I doubt that, I'm sure if given a the tools to do it we all have the basic intelligence and understand to get the job done (maybe not well the first time) but we should at least in theory know what to do. (Hang it by it's feet, cut the throat and drain, gut it, etc.... Oh, and make sure the meat is fully cooked, I wouldn't trust myself the first dozen or so times ) TB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlHazred Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god Since QM hasn't been here yet. Olympic medalists - Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_medallists List of Nobel laureates - Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_prize_winners List of assassins - Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassins The Serial Killer Hit List - Part 1 (hard to read, but good basic info) http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/serial1.html Serial killers and notorious murders in The Crime Library http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/index.html Real Life Hero Stories - Robin's Web http://www.robinsweb.com/inspiration/heros.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy_The_Ruthles Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god nobel must be the awarder! he used his superhuman intelect to make dynamite and to become imortal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god I like it, but I'd broaden it and make it a bit more mysterious. Olympic athletes, as they break world records, manifest amazing powers related to their sports and personalities. Strange humanoid figures are seen. A heroic fire fighter is rescuing a child from a burning building. He staggers out, half dead, the child in his arms. Witness report seeing a strange, transparent image of a man in a roman toga, just as the fire-fighter stands straight and tall, filled with superhuman strength and immune to flames. A brilliant young graduate student, crippled by cerebral palsy, struggles to complete his thesis. As he does so, he rises, strong and healthy from his chair, able to move mountains with his mind. Hundreds report seeing the transparent image of a hundred foot tall man with the head of a bird above the school that night. Two police drag a sobbing boy back to the home of a serial killer. The killer, Jeff Dahlmer, talks the police into leaving the boy with him. As Dahlmer takes and kills the boy, he hears laughter. From that day forward, the killer can not be killed. By broadening the scope of activities that receive rewards, you give yourself and your players much more room for character backgrounds. You also gain a ready source of villains, and make it a little harder to be sure what's really going on. You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to OddHat again. Wow great ideas. Goose bump ideas. Since QM hasn't been here yet. LOL, I'm getting there. I'm not Steve Long yah know. QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god Olympic.org http:// http://www.olympic.org/uk/index_uk.asp Olympic Games - Wikipedia http:// http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Olympics Summer Olympic Games - Wikipedia http:// http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_Olympic_Games Winter Olympic Games - Wikipedia http:// http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games List of Olympic Events – Google Directory Sports > Events > Olympics http:// http://www.google.com/Top/Sports/Events/Olympics/ Olympian Gods - http:// http://web.uvic.ca/grs/bowman/myth/gods.html Greek Mythology Link – http:// http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/OLYMPIANS.html Greek Mythology – Wikipedia http:// http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_god Nobel Prize – Official Site http:// http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Prize – Wikipedia http:// http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize More to come http:// Cheers QM P.S.: Yes I know he already beat me to the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooligan x Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god Would the Awarder show up at every event or just one? I would have which event he appeared at be a big topic of discusion (and wagering). He may show up for a team sport and award only one of the team the powers. I wouldn't make any hard criteria for him as his motives should be mysterious. But someone from the 1980 US hockey team must have gotten superpowers. Come on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god Reading through this I had a terrifing thought...many pro boxers skipped the Olympic try outs to go pro....that would not happen in this universe...Oh...my ...god...Tyson with super powers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle A. Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god Lets never speak of a super Tyson ever again...well after the first fifty ear jokes or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god This has probably been done before but last night I thought of an idea for the origin of super powers. It is at the 1948 London Olympics that the being known as the Awarder first appeared and began to change the face of the world. He would always appear beside the man who presented the medal and would say to the gold medalist; be like unto a god. After which that person would have super powers. Maybe it was the re-establishment of the Olympics in 1896 that "woke up" the Awarder and his kin. When James Connolly became the first Olympic champion since 385 AD, at the award ceremony he heard a whisper in his ear "Be like unto a god." No one standing near him saw or heard anything. On the ship going back home he compared notes with Robert Garrett, Tom Burke, Thomas Curtis, Ellery Clark, and Wells Hoyt. They all heard the same thing. Albert Tyler, second place in pole vault, heard nothing. They shrugged it off as One of Those Things. Connolly unsucessfully defended his title at the Paris Games in 1900, and has attended every Olympics since then as a journalist, not an athlete. In 1912 he noticed that Albert Tyler looked like a man in his 40's, but he and Robert Garret did not look like they had aged a day since 1896. As a journalist, he started digging. So the first time The Awarder was seen and heard by more than the athlete himself, Connolly was the only one present who was not suprised. In the campagine world James Connolly is still alive, a vigorous 137 year old (he looks 28) Irish American. He set the steriotype of the hard drinking reporter. He will track down and interview the PC's after they gain their powers, at the games if they are Olympians. He has interviewed every person the Awarder has selected at the Olympics, and the majority of those who got their powers Elsewhere. Can be a resource for the PC's to get info on others with powers, will answer their questions as long as they agree to answer his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god Reading through this I had a terrifing thought...many pro boxers skipped the Olympic try outs to go pro....that would not happen in this universe...Oh...my ...god...Tyson with super powers..... So not all that the Awarder gifts will be heroes. Thought that was implied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSword Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god Reading through this I had a terrifing thought...many pro boxers skipped the Olympic try outs to go pro....that would not happen in this universe...Oh...my ...god...Tyson with super powers..... True, but it would remove the problem of where do the villains come from. Just because one excels at a sport does make him a 'good' person. edit: Shoot, beat by McCoy, that will teach me to read the entire thread first. edit 2: Should add that this is an excellent idea, I really like this origin and concept story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teflon Billy Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god So not all that the Awarder gifts will be heroes. Thought that was implied.Although, I wouldn't mind seeing Joe Sullivan or Rocky Marciano(sp?) clean Tyson's clock in an epic Silver Age-esque battle across NYC. TB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klytus Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god I love the entire concept, and the ways in which it has been expanded. One question I have: what SFX would you use to describe these powers? Are they magic? Cosmic? Or something else entirely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Re: Be like unto a god I love the entire concept' date=' and the ways in which it has been expanded. One question I have: what SFX would you use to describe these powers? Are they magic? Cosmic? Or something else entirely?[/quote'] I think that might depend on the nature of the being giving out the power. If it's a Greek god, then the answer is "magic." If it is some sort of manifestation of the cosmos, then you get "cosmic power." Or, it could be some sort of awakening of the mind's full potential, and everything is telepathic and/or telekinetic in origin (the Wild Cards rational). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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