CHAR: Superman

[Wanderer]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Agreed, more or less.

 

Wonder Woman wouldn't be a DNPC, and that's probably a part of her appeal to the current generation of comics writers. In the end, Lois is going to age and die (or she would if time really passed in comics). Lois will never be anything close to Superman's equal in terms of physical or social power, and she'll only be his mental equal because poor Kal has been ret-conned down to human levels of intelligence (unless they've dropped that again).

 

Then there are the physical issues, as detailed elsewhere in the thread.

 

I liked the approach in Kingdom Come (ignoring the other problems in that book); let Clark have Lois, let the two of them stay together for Lois' natural span. In the end, after a period of mourning, his decades long friendship with Diana can become something more.

 

Heartily Agreed. One more reason why overall that book rocked One of the main reasons the Lois character feels stale nowadays (apart from the fact that "damsel in distress" DNPC's feel annoying to modern sensibilities; even Aunt May eventually developed some spine) is that she has been around as an eternally unresolved plot issue like forever (in half the time, Peter Parker had four important relationships). Even if we are all weepy that they finally consummated their romance, she feels like a very old maid, no matter how hot they may draw her.

 

I think to a large extent Lois Lane is the tool Superman's writers have used over the years to make him relate to humanity. She's his lifeline into the world of mortals. It's also a very old meme (note clever use of trendy jargon) in legends and fiction: The god smitten with a mere mortal; the king who falls for a commoner. Without Lois, Supes would spend all of his time hanging with other superheroes in the Watchtower and lose that spark of humanity that makes him a hero as opposed to simply a godawfully powerful being stranded on a planet of insects.

 

Somewhat true, but much more for some other "cosmic" characters. A defining element of Supes' character is that the Kents made such a thorough job of socializing him into a near-fanatical "patriotic boyscout" mindset that he may be physically godlike, but mentally he is 90% human. I sincerely doubt that he would lose it significantly over a few years, just by losing a human S.O. AFAIK, he rarely sports that kind of inner conflict between the godlike mentality and the human one that characterizes say Thor. In that sense, Batman is much less "human" than him. Besides, human DPNC may be useful, but aren't really essential, to tell a good ongoing stroy with cosmic characters, nor to give them the human spark: see the Fantastic Four, and the Reed-Sue marriage.

 

While WW might be a more rational choice as a mate for Kal-El, she's also no more human than he is.

 

I wouldn't say it is just a rational choice. It's a feeling akin to that kind of frustration you experience when you realize that a friend of yours would have the perfect soulmate (interests, personality, reciprocal attraction) at a hand's reach, yet he/she doggedly insists in denying it a chance.

 

How could the writers justify him constantly having to sneak away to rescue his girlfriend/wife when WW is fundamentally as tough as he is? WW might be a more interesting character in and of herself, but as a tool for telling stories about Superman she's far less effective. Lois Lane, to lapse into Herospeak™, is a vastly superior DNPC.

 

Well, speaking from from modern comics' soap-opera perspective, you could reap the best of both world by having the character waving between the two relationships: the long-standing human steady, and the superpowered mate: see Spiderman, Mary Jane, and Felicia Hardy triangle (or the recurring Gwen Stacy clone/reincarnation/relative/secret daugther). However, I realize this might be fitting for characters who have been written that way for a long time, and that for many fans, to see the Big Blue Poster Child for Conservative Values anything but super-steady would be like a sacrilege, so the option is best reserved for giving a stroke of difference to clone characters, not a close homage like the present thread. Anime and manga heroes/heroines do it all the time, though. They have even created a whole "harem" subgenre about the romantic indecisiveness of the main character.

[OddHat]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

One thing many fans tend to forget (and' date=' trust me, I'm no better about this myself) is that comics and novels are not life histories of the protagonists; [i']they're a means of telling a story.[/i] Many characters in fictional settings do things that seem manifestly less than the optimal decision, but that's the story (Of course, if the stupidity is too egregious and/or out of character it can throw the reader back out of the story.)

 

Comics and novels are however the Stories of their protagonists, and like most fans I'm comfortable in critiquing those stories.

 

I agree with your analysis on Lois Lane's story function. I also think that the Clark-Lois-Diana story arc, according to my sensibilities, leads very reasonably to that possible future where Lois passes on and Clark finally marries the girl who was right for him from the start. Stories about Clark and Diana wouldn't be the same as stories about Clark and Lois; after almost seventy years of Superman stories, I don't see exploring a new kind of relationship for him as a bad thing.

[Starlord]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Gladiator: (Marvel guy) Identical. I know Gladiator is a Superboy analog but he's Superman tough: I'd drop the VPP though because he rarely uses anything beyond the "Standard" powers. I'd give him some speed tricks to compensate. INT 20 Tops.

 

Hyperion: STR 120 CON 60 BOD 30 PRE 30 PD/ED 45; either get rid of the VPP or reduce it to 75-100 pts. I'd also lose the "No KNB" on the "Heat Vision" (Atomic Vision for him) as his seems to be concussive in addition to hot.

 

Another help in benchmarking these guys is that they lose one-on-one vs. Thor.

[Trebuchet]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Comics and novels are however the Stories of their protagonists, and like most fans I'm comfortable in critiquing those stories.

 

I agree with your analysis on Lois Lane's story function. I also think that the Clark-Lois-Diana story arc, according to my sensibilities, leads very reasonably to that possible future where Lois passes on and Clark finally marries the girl who was right for him from the start. Stories about Clark and Diana wouldn't be the same as stories about Clark and Lois; after almost seventy years of Superman stories, I don't see exploring a new kind of relationship for him as a bad thing.

I really don't either. One could even make a decent case that it's time for Superman to move on to a relationship that's more between equals. However, it's important to remember that Superman is ultimately about the superhero and not the lover. A comic where Superman is hitched up with Wonder Woman is an entirely different prospect than one where he's rescuing Lois from Life Threatening Situation #39, 651. While the Fantastic Four and The Incredible prove you can do a quality comic about coequal heroes/partners; Superman may just be too ingrained in reader's minds as half of "Lois Lane and" for that to work.

 

Also, many long-time fans (and I count myself among them) are uncomfortable with making irreversible changes to the Big Blue Cultural Icon. Remember that DC is in business to sell comics; not to cater to fanatics writing semipornographic fanfic. Admit it, how many fans want to see Kal-El and Diana knocking boots simply because they're tickled by the idea of Superman and Wonder Woman having Earth-shattering (literally) sex?

[OddHat]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

I really don't either. One could even make a decent case that it's time for Superman to move on to a relationship that's more between equals. However' date=' it's important to remember that Superman is ultimately about the superhero and not the lover. A comic where Superman is hitched up with Wonder Woman is an entirely different prospect than one where he's rescuing Lois from Life Threatening Situation #39, 651. While the Fantastic Four and The Incredible prove you can do a quality comic about coequal heroes/partners; Superman may just be too ingrained in reader's minds as half of "Lois Lane and" for that to work.[/quote']

 

For myself, I always enjoy well written Superman stories about the character as a whole, both the Hero and the Man. I don't think Clark could ever leave Lois; he is after all Loyal, Faithful, every scout's virtue except honest. However, a fully human Lois can't live forever. Diana can wait.

 

Also, many long-time fans (and I count myself among them) are uncomfortable with making irreversible changes to the Big Blue Cultural Icon. Remember that DC is in business to sell comics; not to cater to fanatics writing semipornographic fanfic. Admit it, how many fans want to see Kal-El and Diana knocking boots simply because they're tickled by the idea of Superman and Wonder Woman having Earth-shattering (literally) sex?

 

I feel insulted by the suggestion that I write semi-pornagraphic fan fic.

 

OK, once.

 

Big Blue has changed over time, and will continue to do so. So long as the core of the character remains the same (a very good man with great power who chooses to use that power in the service of humanity rather than for personal gain), and so long as the story telling is well done, I'm glad to see a fresh take on the character.

[Bloodstone]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Actully, for several years now they have been teasing fans that Batman and Wonder Woman are destined to be together. 'Course, Bruce is to much of a player to settle down, but Alfred has hinted many times that those two shuold be more then just friends.

 

So until Lois AND Bruce pass on, I don't think Clark and Diana have a chance. 'Course, a world shatering love triangle betwen the Trinity could be interesting too...

[OddHat]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Actully' date=' for several years now they have been teasing fans that Batman and Wonder Woman are destined to be together. 'Course, Bruce is to much of a player to settle down, but Alfred has hinted many times that those two shuold be more then just friends.[/quote']

 

Dude, Bruce is an aging bachelor who keeps himself in top shape and maintains a series of fit, scantily clad teen boys as "wards". The whole playboy act is foolinq nobody.

 

 

So until Lois AND Bruce pass on, I don't think Clark and Diana have a chance. 'Course, a world shatering love triangle betwen the Trinity could be interesting too...

 

Poor Diana, frozen out by the heat between the World's Finest.

[Trebuchet]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Actully' date=' for several years now they have been teasing fans that Batman and Wonder Woman are destined to be together. 'Course, Bruce is to much of a player to settle down, but Alfred has hinted many times that those two shuold be more then just friends.[/quote']There's at least one bit of fanfic which depicts Bruce and Diana as making that step ("An Unusual Mission") to a romantic/sexual relationship. That one is tastefully and somewhat humorously done. Recommended unless you're a Batman purist or under age 13.

[Lemurion]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

It's interesting to see what they're doing in DC's Infinite Crisis -- they're actually bringing back some of the Earth 2 characters (at least in the short term) and Kal L is facing his Lois' mortality and not doing it very well. Of course he's aging as well. It'll be interesting to see how that works out.

[assault]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

To put it simply, Superman began as a solo character, and is fundamentally a solo character. His relationship with Lois will always predominate, because she is a character in his own book, and Wonder Woman isn't.

 

Similarly, Superman isn't going to simply hang about with the other cosmic supers because, fundamentally, they don't exist in the same universe, most of the time. He has to spend his time with humans, because otherwise he is, fundamentally, alone.

 

Supergirl notwithstanding.

 

Of course, what obviously should happen is that Superman and Supergirl should get over the Kryptonian taboo about cousins marrying...

[Wanderer]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

To put it simply' date=' Superman began as a solo character, and is fundamentally a solo character. His relationship with Lois will always predominate, because she is a character in his own book, and Wonder Woman isn't. [/quote']

 

True to a degree. OTOH, the JLA has been around for so much time that Supes is at most a "semi-solo" character in the minds of fans nowasdays. Nonetheless, that's the added fascination of books like JLA and the Avengers, where you have a roost of characters that can provably stand a career as solo heroes, as opposed to the X-Men, where a lot of characters couldn't really accomplish much on their own.

 

Supergirl notwithstanding.

 

Of course, what obviously should happen is that Superman and Supergirl should get over the Kryptonian taboo about cousins marrying...

 

Well, that'd be another very interesting pairing (provided you use the current writeup for Kara, and not the classic wallpaper one). I wonder how ingrained is that taboo, provided they are both attractive specimens, and incest taboo among cousins is at best very weak among humans (as the history of European reigning families proves), and as the last living specimens of their race, raised separately, they should feel a very strong genetic sexual attraction (for those not in the know, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction)

[Wanderer]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Dude' date=' Bruce is an aging bachelor who keeps himself in top shape and maintains a series of fit, scantily clad teen boys as "wards". The whole playboy act is foolinq nobody.[/quote']

 

Well, he can always point out for Catwoman, to prove he is at least bi

 

Poor Diana, frozen out by the heat between the World's Finest.

 

Nahh, I'd rate that as regards the romantic possibilities of THAT pairing, their Iron Age most famous clones, Apollo and Midnighter, have exausted them at length: they have married, raised an adoptive daughter, divorced, and reconciled.

 

So until Lois AND Bruce pass on, I don't think Clark and Diana have a chance. 'Course, a world shatering love triangle betwen the Trinity could be interesting too...

 

Well, anyone who wants to read about a current version of that Soap-operaic development, should just check on the appairings of their Alternate Evil counterparts, the Crime Sindacate: Ultraman, Superwoman and Owlman have an ongoing triangle.

[Enforcer84]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

For Manchine

[Enforcer84]

Re: CHAR: SupermanSupermanVal Char Cost Roll Notes125 STR 115 34- Lift 838.9ktons; 25d6 [6]25 DEX 45 14- OCV: 8/DCV: 875 CON 130 24-25 BODY 30 14-25 INT 15 14- PER Roll 17-25 EGO 30 14- ECV: 850 PRE 40 19- PRE Attack: 10d618 COM 4 13-50 PD 25 Total: 50 PD (50 rPD)50 ED 35 Total: 50 ED (50 rED)5/10 SPD 15 Phases: 3, 5, 8, 10, 12/2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1240 REC 0150 END 0150 STUN 24 Total Characteristic Cost: 508Movement: Running: 6"/12" Flight: 30"/60" Leaping: 25"/50" Swimming: 2"/4"Cost Powers END375 "Super" Power Tricks: Variable Power Pool, 150 base + 225 control cost, No Skill Roll Required (+1), Powers Can Be Changed As A Zero-Phase Action (+1) (375 Active Points)\tab Notes: This represents the vast number of Superhuman strength, speed, and bizzarely qualified powers Kal El can call upon when needed. While he can change it at will and needs no skill roll to do so, it could be said that he needs to make an int check to figure out new applications, but I don't think it warrents a limitation. For a quick list of relevent abilities see Ultimate Brick and the Upcoming Ultimate Speedster (whenever that comes out)150 Standard Superman Tricks: Multipower, 150-point reserve15u 1) Blast Of Breath: EB 15d6, Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4), Double Knockback (+3/4) (150 Active Points) 614u 2) Blowing Away The Mist: Dispel Gas/Smoke/Mist Powers 16d6, all Gas/Smoke/Mist powers simultaneously (+2) (144 Active Points) 1414u 3) Blowing Out Fires: Dispel Fire Powers 16d6, all Fire powers powers simultaneously (+2) (144 Active Points) 1410u 4) Freezing Breath: Energy Blast 10d6, No Normal Defense (LS: Safe Enviroment: Intense Cold; +1) (100 Active Points) 108u 5) Heat Vision: Killing Attack - Ranged 3d6+1, Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4), Line Of Sight (+1/2), Continuous (+1) (137 Active Points); Concentration, Must Concentrate throughout use of Constant Power (1/2 DCV; -1/2), No Knockback (-1/4) 61u 6) Instant Change: Cosmetic Transform 2d6 (10 Active Points); Limited Target: Own Clothes Slightly Limited (-1/4) 14u 7) Superspeed!: +5 SPD (50 Active Points); Nonpersistent (-1/4)180 Super Flight: Flight 30", Variable Advantage (+1 Advantages; +2) (180 Active Points) 18 Super Durable20 1) Bracing: Knockback Resistance -15" (30 Active Points); Costs Endurance (-1/2) 330 2) Even Tougher than That!: Energy Damage Reduction, Resistant, 50%30 3) Even Tougher than That!: Physical Damage Reduction, Resistant, 50%50 4) Nigh Invulnerable: (Total: 50 Active Cost, 50 Real Cost) Hardened (x2; +1/2) (25 Active Points) applied to PD (Real Cost: 25) plus Hardened (x2; +1/2) (25 Active Points) applied to ED (Real Cost: 25)75 5) Nigh Invulnerable: Damage Resistance (50 PD/50 ED), Hardened (x2; +1/2) (75 Active Points)51 6) Nigh Invulnerable: Life Support (Eating Character does not eat; Immunity All terrestrial diseases and biowarfare agents; Immunity All terrestrial poisons and chemical warfare agents; Longevity: Immortal; Safe Environment: Zero Gravity; Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Self-Contained Breathing; Sleeping Character does not sleep)15 7) Strong Willed: Mental Defense (20 points total)6 8) Sturdy: Knockback Resistance -3"31 9) Super Efficient Musculature: Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (31 Active Points) applied to STR10 10) Systemic Antidote: Power Defense (20 points) (20 Active Points); Limited Power: Only vs Poisons/Toxins (-1)20 11) The Man of Steel: Lack of Weakness (-10) for Normal Defense (Resistant Defense) Super-Senses20 1) Combat Hearing: Targeting with Hearing Group5 2) Full Spectrum Vision: Ultraviolet Perception (Sight Group)15 3) Microscopic Vision: Microscopic ( x1,000) with Sight Group18 4) Parabolic Hearing: +12 versus Range Modifier for Hearing Group8 5) Radio Hearing: Radio Perception9 6) Supersenses: +3 PER with all Sense Groups18 7) Telescopic Vision: +12 versus Range Modifier for Sight10 8) Thermal Vision: Infrared Perception (Sight Group), Tracking3 9) Ultrasonic Hearing: Ultrasonic Perception (Hearing Group)10 10) X-Ray Vision: N-Ray Perception (Sight Group)\tab Notes: Cannot See through LeadPerks50 Base: Fortress of Solitude10 Contribution towards the 'Watchtower'10 Fringe Benefit: Membership: Justice League (Senior Member)1 Fringe Benefit: Passport1 Fringe Benefit: Press Pass5 Money: Well Off15 Reputation: The first and Greatest Hero of his Generation (A large group) 14-, +5/+5d63 Well-Connected2 1) Contact: Er...that scientist guy...who developed his containment suit when he was an energy being... (Contact has useful Skills or resources, Contact limited by identity, Good relationship with Contact) (3 Active Points) 11-5 2) Contact: Jimmy Olsen (Contact has useful Skills or resources, Contact is slavishly loyal to character) (6 Active Points) 11-11 3) Contact: Project Cadmus (Contact has very useful Skills or resources), Organization Contact (x3) (12 Active Points) 11-11 4) Contact: The Daily Planet (Contact has useful Skills or resources), Organization Contact (x3) (12 Active Points) 12-23 5) Contact: The Justice Society of America (Contact has extremely useful Skills or resources, Very Good relationship with Contact), Organization Contact (x3) (24 Active Points) 12-17 6) Contact: The Whitehouse (Contact has access to major institutions, Contact has extremely useful Skills or resources), Organization Contact (x3) (18 Active Points) 11-Talents3 Calculate at Superspeed: Lightning Calculator3 Never seems to get lost: Bump Of Direction5 Recall: Eidetic Memory8 Superspeed Reading: Speed Reading (x1,000)15 Superspeed: Lightning Reflexes: +10 DEX to act first with All ActionsSkills24 +3 with All Combat50 +5 Overall3 Bureaucratics 19-3 CK: Metropolis 14-3 Conversation 19-5 Cramming 3 CuK: Krypton 14-3 Deduction 14-3 Electronics 14-3 Forensic Medicine 14-3 High Society 19-0 Language: English (Idiomatic, native accent) (4 Active Points)4 Language: Kryptonian (Idiomatic, native accent)3 Mechanics 14-4 Navigation (Air, Land, Space) 14-3 Oratory 19-3 PS: Reporter 14-3 Paramedic 14-3 Persuasion 19-3 Scholar2 1) KS: History: Krypton (3 Active Points) 14-2 2) KS: The Superhuman World (3 Active Points) 14-3 Streetwise 19-3 Systems Operation 14-Total Powers & Skill Cost: 1562Total Cost: 2070500+ Disadvantages10 DNPC: Lois Lane-Kent 11- (Occasionally), Normal, Useful noncombat position or skills20 Dependent NPC: Jonathan and Martha Kent 8- (Incompetent; Group DNPC: x2 DNPCs)20 Hunted : Superman's Rogues Gallery 11-, As Powerful, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Harshly Punish Notes: They always seem to be able to draw him out.20 Hunted: Lex Luthor: 11- (Frequently), As Powerful, NCI, Harshly Punish15 Physical Limitation: Loses All Kryptonian powers when under a Red Sun Infrequently, Fully Impairing Notes: Reduce All physical Characteristics to "Normal Human Maximum". Lose ALL super powers & talents25 Psychological Limitation: Code vs Killing Very Common, Total15 Psychological Limitation: Disdain for beings who abuse those weaker than they (Very Common, Moderate)20 Psychological Limitation: Idealistic and Altruistic (Very Common, Strong)15 Reputation: Big Blue Boy Scout, Almost Always (14-)20 Social Limitation: Secret Identity (Frequently, Severe)30 Susceptibility : within 1" of Kryptonite , 3d6 damage per Segment Uncommon Notes: Lead shielding will eliminate the Kryptonite radiation. Minute traces of Kryptonite might only cause 1 or 2d6 GM's Discretion20 Vulnerability : 2 x Effect Magic Based Attacks Common20 Vulnerability: 2 x STUN Magic Based Attacks Common1320 Experience PointsTotal Disadvantage Points: 2070Background/History: Saved by his father from his home planet's destruction Kal-El found his way to Earth and was in turn found and adopted by the Kents. They raised the most powerful being on this planet to be a good and noble young man, Clark Kent. Clark studied and travelled the world finally finding himself in Metropolis. There he began his work as a reporter for the Daily Planet. It was at work that he met Lois Lane who would one day become his wife.

Clark has a dual life; in addition to his work as a reporter he fights evil as Superman, the greatest of all heroes in the DC Universe (at least as far as popular opinion goes).Personality/Motivation: Not only was Clark raised "right" by the Kents, he also has come to learn much about his homeworld of Krypton and seeks to prevent similart catasrophes from happening to his adopted home. Perhaps it is because no one on Earth can truely claim to be more powerful than he, that Clark feels disdain for the bullies and tyrants of the world. He realizes if he'd been that petty he'd never have the friends, family, and love that he does now. He cherishes his "humanity" and is very protective of those who look to him for aid.Quote: "Up up and away!""This looks like a job for ...SUPERMAN!"Powers/Tactics: Superhuman Strength, speed, durability, senses and the ability to fly unaided. Superman also has a vast number of tricks he can call upon when in need.

Tactics? He rarely needs any. However, he generally seeks to disarm his foes before they can hurt others (or themselves) and subdue them as quickly and painlessly as possible. The longer a fight lasts the more thought he puts into it. Anyone who can give him a run for his money physically oft finds him to be surprisingly clever and skilled in combat. It just takes a bit to bring that to the fore.Campaign Use: The big gun. The Example.

He can also be used as a mentor or a sage on Kryptonian lore and history, he's seen much in his relatively short life and has lot's of advice.Appearance: Large, well built guy with short black hair and blue eyes. Wears a blue costume with red trunks, cape, and boots. A big red "S" on his chest. Maybe you've seen him?

[Manchine]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

For Manchine

 

Thaxs again.

[Hawksmoor]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

The "err science guy" is Professor Emil Hamilton.

 

Superman should also have contacts with the Supermen of America (Teen Heroes based in Metropolis); The Superman Family (Supergirl, Steel, Superboy); and of course lots and lots of 2 to 3 points of languages from his decade of secret training as he traveled the world anonymously doing good deeds before the Spaceplane incident recorded by Lois Lane.

 

Hawksmoor

[Enforcer84]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

The "err science guy" is Professor Emil Hamilton.

 

Superman should also have contacts with the Supermen of America (Teen Heroes based in Metropolis); The Superman Family (Supergirl, Steel, Superboy); and of course lots and lots of 2 to 3 points of languages from his decade of secret training as he traveled the world anonymously doing good deeds before the Spaceplane incident recorded by Lois Lane.

 

Hawksmoor

Thanks again Hawksmoor (nice appropriate avatar btw) I'll fix the contacts and I'll ponder the languages/AK's.

[TheRavenIs]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Hey Chad, I am so happy you added the .hdc file for this and the other comic book C's you have done.

 

I ask bc I love the way you do them, plus it allows me to use them to play havok with my group.

[Enforcer84]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Haven't we met somewhere before?

[TheRavenIs]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Somewhere some time......maybe.

[Enforcer84]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Back to the write up,

 

Overall an A-

 

A Few things, I would probably turn Jimmy into a DNPC (He gets in trouble alot in my mind)

 

I like the VPP, but would probably drop the breath and Heat Vision Poweers (With the VPP he can just generate them as needed, I would put them on his VPP list)

 

50% Damage reduction is a good idea as well

 

I would drop his Super Movement MP and just have flight (VPP again)

 

I question the Power Defence, He seems to be effected by most drainers just find to me

 

Overall though great right up

Is Jimmy even around anymore?

[Enforcer84]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Here's the HDC with updates. I might post updated CHAR sheet for my homees without HD.

[TheRavenIs]

Re: CHAR: Superman

 

Dude you do deliver. Ohh thanks for the non-rep-rep.