David Nix Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Does anyone know if there are plans to resuerect DC? It seemed pretty popular back in the day & I'd like to see more material produced for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirViss Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Yup Check down this page Hero Products 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Dark Champions will be our major genre book release in Summer 2004 -- a year from now, IOW. Believe me, I've been itching to get back to the modern day action genre for years, and it won't be too much longer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klytus Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 I can't wait to see what the HoJ will look like in 5th Edition. I mean, just look at the upgrade Dr. Destroyer got... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 An "upgraded" Harbinger of Justice in a street-level campaign would be the crime-fighting version of a wheat thresher. And his definition of "crime" would thresh too many people. If a guy like that comes to my campaign city, I'm moving my PCs to Fiji! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Dark Champions was one of the best, if not the best, sub-genre book for Champions. However, Harbinger was a swing and a miss: "Here's a book on low-powered street-level gaming, and here is an 800-point sample character!" Say what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjudisch Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 As much as I loved Dark Champions (and I really loved DC), the book that I think was even better was The Hudson City sourcebook, Justice, Not Law. I remain to this day mystified why JNL didn't win an Origin Award. It's simply the best modern-day RPG supplement ever produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Originally posted by Steve Long Dark Champions will be our major genre book release in Summer 2004 -- a year from now, IOW. Believe me, I've been itching to get back to the modern day action genre for years, and it won't be too much longer.... At this point I have to say that I thought Danger International did this perfectly well, and I preferred Dark Champions as the "street-level" Champions subgenre... But, that's just my opinion. Feel free to ignore it. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 I remain to this day mystified why JNL didn't win an Origin Award. It's simply the best modern-day RPG supplement ever produced. Thanx! I'm glad you enjoyed it so much. I suspect it wasn't even placed into the nomination round for the Awards. If it was, it didn't make it onto the voting ballot. I'm very much looking forward to writing Hudson City: The Urban Abyss next year, where I get to really dive into the highs and lows of everyone's favorite vigilante playground.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjudisch Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Originally posted by Steve Long Thanx! I'm glad you enjoyed it so much. I suspect it wasn't even placed into the nomination round for the Awards. If it was, it didn't make it onto the voting ballot. I'm very much looking forward to writing Hudson City: The Urban Abyss next year, where I get to really dive into the highs and lows of everyone's favorite vigilante playground.... Which makes me wonder if you remember the promise you made to me on the old LUGTrek Mailing List... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Haven't the faintest, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 I don't think Hairbringer Of Justice was supose to be a "example charater". Instead, he was ment to be a 'link' charater between the worlds of Champions and Dark Champions. And I don't expect to see his stats until we get to Hudson City: The Urban Abays. So there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent X Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Originally posted by steriaca I don't think Hairbringer Of Justice was supose to be a "example charater". Instead, he was ment to be a 'link' charater between the worlds of Champions and Dark Champions. And I don't expect to see his stats until we get to Hudson City: The Urban Abays. So there. That "link" character could take out most standard supers. Teleporting Arsenal o' Weapons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjudisch Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Originally posted by Steve Long Haven't the faintest, sorry. It wasn't anything major. After one of the uglier flame wars on the old LUG-Trek ML where I (for want of a better phrase) "went off" on the offending parties (basically, I told them to "Go #$@! yourselves"), you sent me a wonderful email expressing thanks and encouragement (and you still hold the title as the nicest game designer I've ever "met"). I replied with a comment about how much I'd enjoyed your work on Champions (J,NL in particular) and you started telling me about Hudson City: The Urban Abyss (which you were just starting work on at the time, this was before the whole LUG/WotC/Decipher thing and obviously way before you saved Hero from financial ruin) and i asked (in my charmingly impish way :-D ) if you could insert my name (Carl Judisch) into the manuscript as one of the Harbinger of Justice's victims.. Gunned down for smoking in a public place. You said you'd try. It's not a promise that I'd try to hold you to or anything, I was just curious if you remembered the incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 He wouldn't shoot anyone just for smoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Gnome Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Depends who got smoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Blue moon would only shoot someone for smokin next to a NO smoking sign....I'll add my voice the "much rejoicing" about Dark champs return...I'm hoping it has a section on street level champs as this is my personal fav...(True supers,but crime fighters rather than world beaters, but still forced to save the world anyway).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Originally posted by Steve Long He wouldn't shoot anyone just for smoking. What about for snoring too loud? JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 No, I'll leave that to Clay Allison, thanx. Worth mentioning in Western Hero when it comes time for that, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Western HERO? What, that IS coming out? Is it gonna be something other than Rolemaster conversions from OUTLAW? JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nix Posted July 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Originally posted by Steve Long He wouldn't shoot anyone just for smoking. Maybe not..... but the smoker had best not drop that butt on the sidewalk when he's done. Littering? somebodies got to put a stop to it. heheheh:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjudisch Posted July 26, 2003 Report Share Posted July 26, 2003 Erp! I shoulda said, "For smoking in a non-smoking area". Which is something that I personally never do (it's the rude smokers that've gotten us to the point where you can't smoke anywhere anymore anyway), but I frequently have the urge to do so out of sheer perversity. Kinda like the desperate desire to walk on any grassy area where there's a "Keep of the Grass" sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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