nytflyr Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (If this doesnt inspire a pulp game I dont know what can) 7/24/07 from Pravda Since ancient times the exploration of the North was of immense interest to humans. It was an attraction for adventurers and researchers seeking mysterious land and unexplored islands there. Legends say that an entry to the underground realms was located somewhere in the North, and legendary ancient tribes living on the planet centuries ago used the entries to have a good shelter under the Earth's surface. Mystics believe that the entry to the legendary Hyperborea, Shambala and Plutonia is carefully concealed from outsiders somewhere close to the North Pole. Recently, a reliable edition reported that UFOs coming to this planet start not from space but burst out from huge holes under the surface in the North Pole. It was during Plato’s epoch that people first surmised that life probably existed inside planet Earth too. Plato believed that the planet inside was full of tunnels and cavities. Researcher Edmond Halley studied the magnetic field of the Earth and noticed that it slightly varied which suggested that there could be several magnetic fields at once. The researcher supposed that another sphere with its individual magnetic field was inside of the planet. The idea of a hollow planet was very popular among science fiction writers for a long period. And even some researchers presented various estimations and experiments to prove that the planet could be actually hollow inside. One should know that the idea of hollows inside Earth appared dates from great antiquity. Seventy five years ago, the map of the North showed that a third of its territory was still unexplored, and it means that God knows what ideas about the mysterious North could exist at that time. Doctor of geological and mineralogical science, Academician of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences Mark Sadikov is sure that in the North there are no holes that can be used as entries to underground areas. The territory of the North is a deep-sea zone of the Arctic Ocean with its ridges and deep basins between them. Research officer from the geography of polar countries department at the Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute Maria Gavrilo says she noticed no holes in the area of the North Pole when she was there. The expert adds that the North Pole is an ocean covered with ice, and this is an absolutely proven fact. Many attempts were made to find land there but all in vain. Now in the 21st century many new methods have been applied to carefully study the region. Experts of the hollow Earth theory are certain that the planet has several magnetic fields. They also say that aurora polaris is gas that oozes out through the thin earth crust on the poles of the planet. What is more, followers of the idea emphasize that compasses get absolutely mad when approaching the poles. Many researchers also add that warm winds often blow from the north which proves that large hollows may exist there. Academician Mark Sadikov states that there are actually several magnetic fields. Some magnetic fields even belong to old platforms. As for winds, the temperature may vary depending upon local weather conditions. There are two magnetic fields, the South Pole and the North Pole, Maria Gavrilo says. Both poles may shift widely. The extensive studies of both poles have revealed that each of the two is not steady and may actively migrate. The expert adds that aurora polaris is a unique phenomenon that is produced by the glow of excited atoms in the upper layers of the atmosphere, then it gets concentrated in an oval zone some distance from the poles where we can observe it. Astronauts saw from outer space that the entire of the Earth is wrapped in glow like in a halo, but earth dwellers can see it just on the poles. Aurora polaris is very strong; it may have a great impact upon human psyche and cause radio frequency interference. Researchers say that it is normal that a compass may go mad when close to the poles. Indeed, the Earth’s magnetic field is the tensest inside of the pole, and chaotic movements of a compass are an attempt to point there. Majority of suppositions concerning the idea of a hollow planet are based upon conjectures not scientific data. That is why serious contemporary researchers would not comment upon such theories. The North has been studied in detail. Scientific expeditions start for the North every month. What is more, foreign tourists go for trips to the North on ice-breakers very often. According to researchers, hollows that may actually exist under the surface are just karst caves. At the same time, adepts of the hollow planet theory insist that the Earth would have had bigger weight if it were not hollow. But Maria Gavrilo responds that adepts of the idea should mind that when making calculations as concerning the weight of the planet one need to know that mass inside of the planet is not motionless but mobile. If the fact is ignored researchers may get a wrong result. Life inside Earth is impossible first of all because there is no enough space under the surface. Second, pressure and temperature speedily go up at certain depths. When a mine deeper than one kilometer was built in Africa it turned out that people could go down the mine and stay inside with refrigerating plants only as the temperature was too high there. So, the theory of the hollow planet was very popular when science was not that advanced as it is now. Mysteries on the surface are not enough for people, and they are constantly looking for new ones inside the Earth. Deeper layers of the lithosphere are the absolute mystery to us, and nobody knows what is located even deeper. There may be lots of unexpected secrets that people dream to uncover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narratio Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Not a great English translation but decent. And the writer didn't take time to poke fun at at the Nazi Thule society? The latest crop of Russian writers just lack all the right intincts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fyre Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Wait a minute! We wouldn't want adventurers poking around the North Pole anyway. They might interfere with the important work of Santa's Elves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
input.jack Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Wait a minute! We wouldn't want adventurers poking around the North Pole anyway. They might interfere with the important work of Santa's Elves. Santa's Elves are the smaller Greys, who man the UFOs. Dont they teach ANYTHING in schools any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Santa's Elves are the smaller Greys, who man the UFOs. Dont they teach ANYTHING in schools any more? I had an idea one time for a space fantasy game (inspired at least in part by Poul Anderson's Interloper) with an elf/fairy race who had a sort of innate empathic broadcast power. Their emotions would be detected by other races in their appearance, ie a happy elf/fairy would appear beautiful and giddy, a solemn one would appear extremely cold and stern, an angry one would appear monstrous. When they were investigating something scientifically and without preconceptions, their eyes and cranium would appear very large and the lack of emotion would make them quite colorless; in other words, they are the basis for the stories of elves, fairies, sidhe, and Greys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NestorDRod Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows (If this doesnt inspire a pulp game I dont know what can) Not to sound like I'm pimping another company's product, but it already has. Hollow Earth Expedition, from Exile Games, is a pulp RPG that focuses on adventures in, you guessed it, the Hollow Earth. It debuted at last year's GenCon and, from what I understand, will have a number of games running at this year's convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRavenIs Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows You can always have that some places exist that have transdimensional openings into pocket universes. That way you can have them open and close in either random or scheduled patterns. Either way you do it, always a great area of Plup to mine for idea's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Speaking of Nazi's: check out "Vril: The Power of the Coming Race," by Sir Edward Bulwer-Lytton. There really isn't anything Aryan/Nazi-mythic/Thule-ish about it... but the book was hugely incorporated into the conspiracy, none-the-less. I read it the other day. It's terrible (putting, "It was a dark and stormy night," fully into context for me)... but a classic. Personally, I'm way more into ERB's Pellucidar; but "Vril" is pretty much entirely an exposition of the terrestrial alien culture and technology with a crappy little story told from the perspective of an actual antique British gentleman (whom I personally hate now for his prose)... so there's plenty of ready material to GM with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows It is not for no reason that they named an award for bad writing after Sir Edward (the "Bulwer-Lytton Award"). I read "The Coming Race" MANY years ago and found it rather "Victorian" and hard to get through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows If you are interested in "Hollow Earth" stuff then I suggest "Lost Continents and The Hollow Earth" by David Hatcher Childress & Richard Shaver (Adventures Unlimited Press, 1999).It doesn't have anything new in it , but it DOES reprint Shaver's Classic work "I Remember Lemuria" in its entirety. Most of the information (other than the Shaver, which is credited) seems to be lifted from Walter Kafton-Minkel's earlier book "Subterranean Worlds" (without credit) but, as that book seems to be currently unavailable, the Childress does provide a wealth of information than could be used in a "hollow earth" adventure for "Pulp Hero". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows I don't know if it was this thread that got me started on it or not, but I've spent bits and pieces of time for the last two weeks reading Aaron Allston's Hollow World setting for D&D. That stuff is pure pulp, and would work great with a bunch of adventurers accidentally ending up there after a mole-machine prototype loses control. Throw in some Nazis that crashed their Zeppelin there while looking for artifacts from Thule, and you're good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narratio Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Santa's Elves are the smaller Greys, who man the UFOs. Dont they teach ANYTHING in schools any more? The problem appears to be that all anybody wants to hear about are the lost Nazi civilizations or the aliens who use it as an R&R spot while wandering Kansas anally probing people. Nobody cares about ecology down there. Think about it, mankind starts hacking away at African jungles and up pops Ebola, arguably THE Heavy wieght viral nasty to appear so far. The Nazi's and the remnant Atlanteans and all thos bloody aliens have got to have something as much, if not far more lethal, down there. But do we hear about the deseases, plagues and epidemics? Nope. Not a jot. Ever wonder where HIV / AIDS originated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows The problem appears to be that all anybody wants to hear about are the lost Nazi civilizations or the aliens who use it as an R&R spot while wandering Kansas anally probing people. I parsed this as "wandering Kansas anally". Not really a contribution to the discussion; I just wanted to get that image out of my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Darke Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows The problem appears to be that all anybody wants to hear about are the lost Nazi civilizations or the aliens who use it as an R&R spot while wandering Kansas anally probing people. I parsed this as "wandering Kansas anally". Not really a contribution to the discussion; I just wanted to get that image out of my mind. By putting it in ours? Thanks a bunch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narratio Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Hmmm, Basil has got to stop hanging around in the NGD. Anyway, as the genre is 20/30'd pulp, I can understand the lack of concern about disease or nanotech in any form. But there's lots of plot threads there. Come to think of it, why have teh two fisted crime fighters never tried to stop those aliens wandering Kansas doing wretched things to people. Hmmm, and another question. Why do they probe people but not cows? Cows get mutilated but do not appear to be probed. What can the reason be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Hmmm, Basil has got to stop hanging around in the NGD. Anyway, as the genre is 20/30'd pulp, I can understand the lack of concern about disease or nanotech in any form. But there's lots of plot threads there. Come to think of it, why have teh two fisted crime fighters never tried to stop those aliens wandering Kansas doing wretched things to people. Hmmm, and another question. Why do they probe people but not cows? Cows get mutilated but do not appear to be probed. What can the reason be? I don't think the aliens were doing all that back in the 20s/30s. As for cow probing, how do we know they're not? I haven't heard of too many bovine necropsies focusing on the anal regions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Pulp era aliens are mostly concerned with conquest through really big machines, incomprehensibly Things from beyond the stars, or small groups of gangsters led by men in silly looking capes and cowls. Picking up scantily clad young women and running around with them is also perpetually popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Picking up scantily clad young women and running around with them is also perpetually popular. DUH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Darke Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Picking up scantily clad young women and running around with them is also perpetually popular. Not just with aliens! :eg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narratio Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Or hypnotising and kidnapping the aformentioned scantily clad ladies. Mars Needs Women after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows So we all agree on the importance of the scantily-clad ladies. There's other stuff to like about the Hollow Earth such as.... Uhm, dinosaurs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows So we all agree on the importance of the scantily-clad ladies. There's other stuff to like about the Hollow Earth such as.... Uhm, dinosaurs? How clad are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows How clad are they? Depends on what mood the psychic pterodactyles are in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows Mars Needs Women after all. Don't we all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows So we all agree on the importance of the scantily-clad ladies. There's other stuff to like about the Hollow Earth such as.... Uhm, dinosaurs? Well, you could always run into Edgar Rice Burroughs' Mahars, the all-female, psychic pterodactyls from Pellucidar. They have their uses. For instance, I know a few guys who'd like to do the nasty with one. Fortunately I don't know them IRL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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