Enforcer84 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) Anotherone! Anyone make an HD file from my write up? if not I'll probably post one here soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) Yeah' date=' I was going to suggest "Hunted by Bendis' favorite flash in the pan, 11-" [/quote'] While we're talking Tigra and Hunted as a disadvantage -- she has a Rogues' Gallery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) not that i'm aware of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) You'd have to dig pretty deep and it would probably come up as, "The Angry Cat People" she encountered through most of her origin and subsequent story-lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) You mean you actually keep count? I tend to like even numbers...but beyond that? Not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) Sorry for the revival, but I lost the hdc file and had to recreate her from this thread. So I thought I'd post the tweaked update. And HDC file case I loses it a gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) Never was a Tigra fan, didn't dislike her so was just sort of "meh" to me, but I never realized she was that strong either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) Just so you know what you've done.... I've started reading Golden Age romance comics, because of the Greer Nelson/Patsy Walker/Hellcat connection. It's all your fault. I'm not actually planning on writing up The Cat or Hellcat, though. I'll just stick with homages. Ones based on the lame-o characters from early romance comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) Just so you know what you've done.... I've started reading Golden Age romance comics, because of the Greer Nelson/Patsy Walker/Hellcat connection. It's all your fault. I'm not actually planning on writing up The Cat or Hellcat, though. I'll just stick with homages. Ones based on the lame-o characters from early romance comics. So Greer was a romance model character? Hehe...I wondered why her professions listed: Police Detective, Research Scientist, Model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) So Greer was a romance model character? Hehe...I wondered why her professions listed: Police Detective' date=' Research Scientist, Model.[/quote'] Not quite. Unlike Patsy Walker, she started out as a superheroine, although one aimed at a female market (as imagined by men). Her background was romance comic-orthodox, though, having met her dream man at college, and dropping out to marry him. The following smilie should, I hope, be unnecessary: The Walker/Greer connection comes from Walker having started out wearing one of Greer's old costumes. Obviously a character influenced by them would have to exhibit romance character tropes. Especially the more "traditional" tropes. Highly appropriate for a Silver Age character. Sadly, I wouldn't dare play one. The Silver Age Batwoman would be another example of this kind of character, although her background was less orthodox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) I knew that Patsy was a model comics girl and the second to wear the Cat suit. And she dated Satan's kid. Ah comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) And she dated Satan's kid. Haven't we all dated one of Satan's kids at some time or another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) I knew that Patsy was a model comics girl and the second to wear the Cat suit. And she dated Satan's kid. Ah comics. Didn't she go to hell herself at one point or another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escafarc Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) Didn't she go to hell herself at one point or another? It's Marvel,who hasn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) It's Marvel' date='who hasn't?[/quote'] No offense, but for some reason I read that as: It's Marvel-616, it'd be redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) Haven't we all dated one of Satan's kids at some time or another? Dude, I married one of 'em! Much to my embarrassment, twice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanis Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) The character of Patsy Walker is one of the oldest currently owned by Marvel, going back to the mid-1940s. For close to thirty years she and her best frenemy Hedy were funnybook rivals in girls' comics. They were very similar to Archie Comics' Betty and Veronica, not surprisingly given that all four characters were written by Al Hartley at the height of their popularity in the 60s (though Hartley didn't create any of them). She languished in the 70s after girls comics lost traction, making the occasional guest cameo as a civilian in various superhero books largely for nostalgia value and comic relief. Avengers writer Steve Englehart wrote an interesting twist on the character in the mid-70s. PAtsy, who was physically fit but had nothing resembling a superpower and had very little training, decided she wanted to be a superhero -- and damned if she wasn't going to become one! She essentially browbeat Captain America and Iron Man into letting her onto the Avengers, appropriating Greer Nelson's leftover agility-enhancing supercostume after Greer had mutated into the Tigra form and didn't need it anymore. While in the Avengers she met and married Daimon Hellstrom, Son of Satan (her second husband), who ultimately was semi-indirectly responsible for driving her (more) insane and causing her to commit suicide (the specifics of which have been retconned several times and are kind of hazy). She ultimately was revived and left Hellstrom, and ever since several writers have eeked out cheap laughs that the superegotistical Hellstrom is still kind of hung up on her. She was a frequent member of the revolving cast of the Defenders book, but is rarely thought of as a core member of that team. Although she still has Greer's supersuit, Patsy's only bona fide superpower of her own is that somewhere along the line she became completely immune to magic. Since the mid-90s Hellcat has been largely a background/supporting character, but she is obviously one of if not the favorite superhero of writer Kathryn Immonen Immonen wrote a wonderfully funny limited series about her in the early 2000s and has featured her prominently in several other books she has written since, like Marvel Divas and Heralds. I love Walker as written by Immonen; Immonen perfectly captured the feel that Walker is too crazy to be taken seriously, but also too crazy NOT to be taken seriously. Unlike the majority of emo-angsty reluctant heroes who pine for a normal life, Walker is in costume because she really, really, REALLY wants to be, and nobody is going to damn well stop her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) It wasn't so much Cap and Iron Man, but what I recall Hank McCoy owed her and she found out he was an Avenger at the time. She had been married to an exec at Roxxon Oil. She became involved during the Serpent Crown Affair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) Rocketed to Earth from the planet Crazy, Patsy Walker decided to become a superhero, and nobody dared to tell her otherwise. Even criminals don't quite dare to shoot at her, in case they miss and have to listen to the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNakagawa Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) Like the write-up' date=' but a 36 DEX? Should it really be that high?[/quote'] This is why I like to design things with an offset designation rather than a number. If you define her DEX as [CAMPAIGN_AVERAGE_DEX] + N, then her performance will be the same, whether your game features an average DEX of 10, 20 or 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Re: Tigra (Marvel Universe) The only thing with that, B, on a the boards, that'll add an additional notation to the character's stats. Technically all of them. Far easier to look at the writeup as given and if you want to use it, make adjustments based on your campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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