matrix3 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers One of the problems with Adventures Unlimited is that the real and true stuff about Tesla and his work gets mixed up with the... lets be polite and call them total nutters... theories on aliens and government coverups and deliberate withholding of blah, blah, blah. As an Electrical Engineer I'd willingly worship Tesla. The mind of a giant with enough neurosis to fill a large bath tub. I am a big fan of Tesla, as well, and it is well deserved. He discovered/invented alternating current, motors and generators that we use today, radio, and experimented with X-Rays before Roentgen published any of his own research. He was, in general, at least 80 years ahead of his time... If he'd had just a smidgen of business sense, people'd be dealing with ConTesla instead of ConEd, and it'd be merged with Westinghouse, too: He ripped up a Westinghouse contract that would have made him the world's first billionaire, in part because of the implications it would have on his future vision of free power, and in part because it would run Westinghouse out of business, and Tesla had no desire to deal with the creditors. Instead, he died in debt in a NY hotel room. Also, (getting into the "nutter" territory) when he died, some 80+ trunks of research and other papers were seized by the authorities and declared top secret. Eventually, some few of these were released to the Nikola Tesla Museum in Belgrade. The rest, as far as anyone knows, are still top secret. In my games, I have them residing at Area 51, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanDispute Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers while working on my other pulp era project, i found this interesting page that I thought needed a seperate entry http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/The%20Vril%20Discs.htm :rofl: :rofl: Oh my, I'd almost forgotten about The Vril People. As well, I had never run across this bit of their nonsense heretofore. Thank you for a good laugh. :rofl: :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers I am a big fan of Tesla, as well, and it is well deserved. He discovered/invented alternating current, motors and generators that we use today, radio, and experimented with X-Rays before Roentgen published any of his own research. He was, in general, at least 80 years ahead of his time... If he'd had just a smidgen of business sense, people'd be dealing with ConTesla instead of ConEd, and it'd be merged with Westinghouse, too: Instead, he died in debt in a NY hotel room. Also, (getting into the "nutter" territory) when he died, some 80+ trunks of research and other papers were seized by the authorities and declared top secret. Eventually, some few of these were released to the Nikola Tesla Museum in Belgrade. The rest, as far as anyone knows, are still top secret. In my games, I have them residing at Area 51, of course. It must be admitted, though, that when one considers the things he DID invent (like an earthquake machine -- no, really, he invented a machine that could induce tremors in objects and once boasted that he could knock down the biggest skyscrapers in NYC with one) that there could be almost anything in those hidden papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrix3 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers It must be admitted' date=' though, that when one considers the things he DID invent (like an earthquake machine -- no, really, he invented a machine that could induce tremors in objects and once boasted that he could knock down the biggest skyscrapers in NYC with one) that there could be almost anything in those hidden papers.[/quote'] I wouldn't be surprised at anything that might be found in those papers. He still holds the record for longest arc of artificial lightning, although someone working with Survival Research Labs is working on beating that record. Depending on which report you follow, he either tested that oscillator on a bridge and almost destroyed the bridge, or was testing it in his lab and almost destroyed both neighboring buildings. In both reports, he supposedly couldn't get close enough to turn it off, so he had to smash the oscillator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanDispute Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers So, some of you are adding Tesla to the Vril People. That's comedy gold! Wait, you're serious?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Mackinder Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers I wouldn't be surprised at anything that might be found in those papers. He still holds the record for longest arc of artificial lightning' date=' although someone working with Survival Research Labs is working on beating that record. Depending on which report you follow, he either tested that oscillator on a bridge and almost destroyed the bridge, or was testing it in his lab and almost destroyed both neighboring buildings. In both reports, he supposedly couldn't get close enough to turn it off, so he had to smash the oscillator. Recall the Mythbusters tackling this one. I think they wound up considering it pretty much busted. However, in their full-scale test (on an old iron bridge due for demolition), they did get a very interesting resonation / vibratory effect from the smallish oscillator they were using. Not nearly enough to hurt the bridge but more than anticipated - and making them wonder if using a bigger unit for longer could have actually damaged the structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narratio Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers Recall the Mythbusters tackling this one. I think they wound up considering it pretty much busted. However, in their full-scale test (on an old iron bridge due for demolition), they did get a very interesting resonation / vibratory effect from the smallish oscillator they were using. Not nearly enough to hurt the bridge but more than anticipated - and making them wonder if using a bigger unit for longer could have actually damaged the structure. Considering that they were using bits basically thrown together, using kitchen math, I considered the results a good one. Now go back, purpose design a mashine and that is plausible. No NanDispute, I'd never mix Tesla with the VRiL people Except as a gaming plot line, where it would become mandatory of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanDispute Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers No NanDispute, I'd never mix Tesla with the VRiL people Except as a gaming plot line, where it would become mandatory of course. For gaming, I have no problem. It's a peculiar "idea seed," but I'm sure could be made into something usable. And different people have different tolerances for "suspension of disbelief." Now, the mixing Tesla's...bizarre...ideas with the...unlikeliness...of Vril and considering it to have any attachment to reality; well, that's way past my limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers You know, if there was ever anyone who was due for an 'origin' (as in the superpowered sense), I'd have to put Tesla close to the top of that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narratio Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers Mother was of what the Czech's call 'the Old Blood', father was of uncertain heritage with eyes of almost violet colour. Born in a storm... You know, maybe he did have an Origin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers While on vacation, I had this passing thought of a campaign. The world is controlled by two competing factions: The Vril Society and the Illuminati. Of course, the two groups will eventually fight for control of the whole world. And flying saucer technology will play a role in the conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrix3 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers Mother was of what the Czech's call 'the Old Blood'' date=' father was of uncertain heritage with eyes of almost violet colour. Born in a storm... You know, maybe he did have an Origin.[/quote'] He also apparently inherited his incredible memory from his mother. She was illiterate, but could perfectly recall anything she heard, and would often recite poems and sing hymns for her children. Bit if trivia: Tesla claimed that his brother, Dane, was more intelligent than he was, but Dane had a fatal accident in childhood and Tesla always blamed himself. Plot Seed: What if Dane Tesla actually was as smart or even smarter than the brilliant Nikola? What if the Illuminati discovered their potential in childhood, tried to abduct them both, only got Dane, and faked his death to cover it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers Mother was of what the Czech's call 'the Old Blood'' date=' father was of uncertain heritage with eyes of almost violet colour. Born in a storm... You know, maybe he did have an Origin.[/quote'] What exactly does "Old Blood" mean in this context? I find it interesting that he was the son of a priest and his mother the daughter of a priest. I thought his father's family was pretty established? Lucius Alexander The palindromedary notes that no one seems to deny the midnight birth during an electrical storm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narratio Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers What exactly does "Old Blood" mean in this context? I find it interesting that he was the son of a priest and his mother the daughter of a priest. I thought his father's family was pretty established? I've no idea as to what "Old Blood" means really. I work with a Romanian engineer who keeps insisting Tesla's mother was from some tribal clan or group that can trace its roots back to a pre-Roman times. As to his fathers lineage, somebody once traced teh family roots back to a medieval noble I think. But my Romanian electrical engineer tells me it also went off into Romania. I wasn't going to argue as I can't read or speak Romanian. Come on, doesn't that just shout 'Vampire bloodline' to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimble Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers If you are able to find it watch "Nazi Dreadnaught UFOs and the Illuminati Conspiracy". The whole thing is a real crack-pot on a couch talking about the Nazi UFOs and how they fly and his conspiracy theories. It is priceless. I had a player base a character in an Alternate-Earth hopping game play this guy,but he was from an Earth where all of his strange theories were real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escafarc Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers Now Iran has flying saucers http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-03/iran-announces-construction-unmanned-flying-saucer-supposedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Re: Nazi Flying Saucers Now Iran has flying saucers http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-03/iran-announces-construction-unmanned-flying-saucer-supposedly Damn! Now I have to make another tinfoil hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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