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Yay, now the Nazis will have a chance to win, after all!

 

I know, I know, it's all in fun, but I can't help feeling just a little queasy. After all, consider this scenario:

 

Plummy BBC Announcer: "We interrupt tonight's broadcast of Frightfully Stuffy Classical Music of 1940 for a special adress from His Majesty the King."

George VI: "My fellow Britons, loyal subjects of the Commonwealth:

As some of you may be aware, there have been unfavourable developments in our ongoing war with Germany in the last few days. Last night, my Chief of the Imperial General Staff, Field-Marshal Dill, confirmed that German forces have broken through the French army's line along the Meuse on a wide front, and that German spearheads have reached Arras, at the head of the estuary of the Somme, cutting off the northern group of armies. Although the German Air Force has not yet attacked London, it has already demonstrated the ruthlessness of the Nazi regime against Rotterdam and Warsaw. None of the beautiful and gracious cities of Europe is safe from the indiscriminate terror of National Socialist Germany.

Therefore, with great reluctance, I have authorised the armed forces to immmediately deploy in action many weapons which have been on the secret list for as many as ten years.

As I speak, Avro Vulcans of Bomber Command are striking at German targets such as the Bielefeld Viaduct, Ruhr dams, and Rhine bridges. Handley Page Victors are attacking marshalling yards throughout western Germany, while Vickers Valiants are attacking factory targets throughout Germany. Front-line support for our forces is being provided by Westland Canberras, while Hawker Hunters of Fighter Command and Supermarine Scimitars of the Fleet Air Arm provide frontline support and naval interdiction.

On the ground, the army is now using its Centurion tanks and combat engineering vehicles to reinforce a defensive position along the Dyle line. Although the army has previously characterised the units to which the Centurions are now issued as "light" armoured brigades, the nation, and the Germans, will shortly see an even larger tank, the Conqueror, in action. Infantry are now authorised to use their FN Self-Loading Rifles, PIATs, and suchlike.

With God's help, and all this kickass military technology whose sudden appearance on the battlefield is still way more credible than the idea of a laser on a tank in 1945, we will kick Nazi butt all the way back to Berlin, with the result that, although there will be way fewer cool SS units to cosplay in the future, there won't be a Holocaust."

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Yay, now the Nazis will have a chance to win, after all!

 

I know, I know, it's all in fun, but I can't help feeling just a little queasy.

 

If that's the case then maybe you had a head start on us? Relax. 90% of pulp is the Nazi Menace©. Nazis are good, reliable, shootable badguys, no two ways about it. This isn't about Nazis über alles but "Who will Save Us Now?™", as in "what a neat idea for the Super-Allied Genius Nazi-Hunters to have to counter!

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Fair enough, Sarge. It's just that I was on Youtube the other day looking for "Prinz Eugen, der edle Ritter," and made the mistake of clicking around. There's a lot of Neo-Nazis out there, and this video didn't end with the good guys winning. It pretty clearly implied that the imminent end of WWII was going to be reversed in the "1945a" timeline. I'm pretty sure that the inference was intended from a Neo-Nazi perspective, but, well, I'm sensitised now.

 

 

..And

 

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The snippet is only' date=' what? 4-5 minutes? To me, it's not "the Nazi's win" it's "here's the prologue to the adventure."[/quote']

 

I can see that, too. I just think I'd have liked it a little better if there had been some foreshadowing of a possible Allied countermeasure, or at least a dogged determination to put this thing down or die trying.

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More shock value than anything else, really. Kind of like the Blitzkrieg tactics the Germans used early in the war - the armies they faced were simply unprepared for that kind of warfare. As here.

 

In this case, we saw one Sherman tank get in a fair shot. If there had been a bunch of Shermans there (which was how they were best used), it would have gone much much harder for the Nazis. Also, the battle was at night - the Allies OWNED the sky by then, and I think that, say, a squadron of Hawker Typhoons would turn that thing into modern art, at first light.

 

The video was well done, anyhow.

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If that's the case then maybe you had a head start on us? Relax. 90% of pulp is the Nazi Menace©. Nazis are good' date=' reliable, [i']shootable[/i] badguys, no two ways about it. This isn't about Nazis über alles but "Who will Save Us Now?™", as in "what a neat idea for the Super-Allied Genius Nazi-Hunters to have to counter!

 

Well, there's a slug of Yellow Peril phobia in there too, for those stories that go on in East Asia or elsewhere around the Pacific basin.

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Well' date=' there's a slug of Yellow Peril phobia in there too, for those stories that go on in East Asia or elsewhere around the Pacific basin.[/quote']

 

You have a point. I prefer to downplay the "Yellow Peril" aspect of my WWII and earlier campaigns. You can blame a criminal cartel or a warlord for the peril instead of an entire continent full of people.

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I can see that' date=' too. I just think I'd have liked it a little better if there had been some foreshadowing of a possible Allied countermeasure, or at least a dogged determination to put this thing down or die trying.[/quote']

 

Come on, it is the prologue.

Such always shows the menace, never the solution. For that you have to see the show/buy the book or whatever.

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