Simon

Histrionics are reaching actionable levels, folks.  Tone it down.

smh

If you go to the Advanced Search and set the last update search criteria far enough back, you'll be searching through the archives.  The default search looks to anything updated (posted to) within the last year...which matches the archive conditions.

Yeah...it's doing both.  If you're not seeing it, you're going to want to check your system's settings -- browser cache (how is that still a thing?), any script blockers, etc.

The site is working as-designed.

22 minutes ago, st barbara said:

Does anyone remember an old cartoon from Warner Brothers from the war years called "Gremlins From The Kremlin" ? It was kept off screens for years during the post war period , possibly because it glorified the Soviet Union and Joseph Stalin in particular.

Absolutely.  There were a slew of cartoons out of Warner Bros. during the war years that served as one of the major propaganda arms for the US.

This whole thread orbits around something I've been trying to figure out....and I still don't know that I have it clear mentally, so the following is likely not going to come out entirely right (consider this an advanced apology...and I'll attempt to clarify as needed).

Looking at some of the behaviors and depictions in old movies is VERY similar to looking at the behaviors and actions of certain individuals in recent press in regards to sexual abuse/predation.  Context plays a large part, but intent seems to be a major factor that is not discussed either because it's considered irrelevant or is too "sticky"/difficult to address.

By context, I'm referring primarily to the prevailing attitudes of the time.  Ben Franklin owned slaves.  So did most other wealthy Americans.  It was part of that period of time. Not something that we want to celebrate, but neither is it something that we want to condemn people of that time for (IMO).  To take a more current example, if 100 years from now some of the extreme arms of PETA have their way and owning an animal (say a dog or cat for a pet) is considered akin to slavery, I don't think that people today should be judged for that.  People today should be judged based on today's societal and moral standards -- owning a pet is fine, but you need to treat it properly (care for it, feed it, etc.). This applies equally well for sexual harassment -- the prevailing attitude of the time needs to be part of the equation.  That we have (hopefully) progressed in our current time from 50 or 100 years ago doesn't mean that we should judge people from prior times based on our current ideas -- their actions should be judged based on the times in which they were made.

Which is where we run into intent...and things get really sticky.  The intent behind an action (the production of a movie, physical contact with a member of the opposite sex, the publication of a book, etc.) should be considered strongly in any sort of "judgement" of that action.  A three year old boy who kisses a girl in his kindergarten class on the cheek should not be accused of sexual harassment (IMO) -- there is no intent there. A CEO (or anyone in a position of authority) who pulls a subordinate in for a peck on the cheek is a different story.

Blazing Saddles is a great example of one extreme, oddly enough.  Its main theme is based around racism.  White supremacy, racism, mysogeny, you name it -- all there.  But the intent was to laugh at them...to mock them and hopefully grow past them through laughter.  It's hard to take the movie as offensive or wrong (unless, of course, you sympathize with the white supremacy group).

Warner Bros./Bugs Bunny through WWII had some remarkably racist themes.  They were part of the propaganda push within the US.  Without the context of WWII, they are extremely offensive.  With proper context, they are (IMO) educational and enlightening as to what was going on in society at the time.  Certainly not something that would personally feel is appropriate for kids on a Saturday morning (do they still do that?), but not something to be locked away or burned.

Then there are movies that I've either intentionally avoided or simply not been subjected to due to my own preferences -- the ones that don't just portray hateful ideas/ideals, but promote them (without the excuse of historical context). The best examples I can think of here (again, I'm somewhat sheltered) are some of the earlier cartoons and their depictions of black people. They've generally been scrubbed from the airwaves at this point...and rightly so -- keep them for people researching history and society at those times, but they have little place for the general public.

10 hours ago, bigdamnhero said:

Has anyone else experienced this: when you post a comment quoting a post that's not on the most-recent page of the thread, the old software would take you to the most-recent page so you could see your new post. The new software doesn't do that, it seems to leave you on the page you were quoting from and doesn't give you a notification that your post went through. As a result, I wound up creating 3 or 4 duplicate posts before I realized what was going on. Could just be user error, of course, but seemed odd.

Doesn't matter if you're quoting or not -- you're using the quick reply form at the bottom of the page.  Replies will always go to the end of the thread, but having the page change from your current selection is non-ideal, so you'll need to just trust the "Saving..." and clearing of the form.

6 minutes ago, Christopher said:

Maybe you could at least relay the bug? I can only check the client side behavior, not the server side configuration.

Let's go with "No."

Just. Stop.

You have a solution.  Use it and move along.

Let's do this once more for posterity:  I did not write the software for the forums.  I am not interested in changing the code, "debugging" or anything else.  The software for this site works just fine for Fortune 100 companies...I suspect it will do just fine for HERO Games.

If you have a question about how the forums work (since there are a LOT of changes), that's fair game.  If you think there's a bug, by all means ask...but if there is a perfectly reasonable "fix" suggested -- USE IT.  Don't keep posting about your personal theories on how the code for the site is written and how it should be fixed.

There is no "index.html" page for the site -- that is entirely handled via redirect in .htaccess file for the docroot, since the site resides in the /forums subdirectory (beneath docroot).   That is not an invitation to figure out "what's wrong" with the current redirection scheme vis a vis auto-login -- it's simply an explanation of how things work and why those who are positing theories on what's going wrong "in the code" are out of their depth.  Just do what works and move on.

Curious that you're trying to debug code that you've never seen...and which doesn't exist.

You have a solution to the issue -- use it.

43 minutes ago, megaplayboy said:

Based upon a single incident of intermediate seriousness(where 1 = an inappropriate comment and 10 = forcible rape, a forced kiss and mocked groping picture is about a 5, plus or minus 1), with no due process?  No thanks.  He's made a full apology, she accepted the apology, and he called for an ethics investigation into his behavior(an unprecedented request, apparently).  Proportionality and equity in punishment are real things in the law, maybe they should be outside the law as well.  

This.

I'm firmly and completely in support of the push against sexual harassment (which has become endemic in our society)...but it needs to be tempered with due process and reason if it's going to avoid becoming the witch hunt that opponents have decried.  Intent of the individual needs to be part of the equation...and yes, that makes things very (VERY) tricky.  

We also need to stop looking to equate or distract.  It doesn't matter what Franken did (or what happens as a result) when looking to Moore.  Or vice versa. They're two different people and two different incidents/allegations.  If I go out and attack someone on the street, I don't get to point to someone else and say "they did it, too" as some sort of defense for my actions.

What I (personally) think should happen:  

Franken should go before the ethics committee (which he himself has recommended).  They will determine the severity of his actions and appropriate measures to be taken in response.  Unless something radical changes in the story, it is likely that he will have consequences (censure, removal from committees, etc.)  and either resign of his own choosing or have major issues in the next election (resulting in much the same). This is the type of response that we expect and want to see -- our elected officials are being held to a high standard (or should be) and are accountable for their actions both during and before their terms of office.

Moore needs to have the same thing occur...but he's currently in an election process. It would be best for his party (and Congress in general) for him to drop out.  Pushing forward presents a decidedly negative appearance for the GOP in regards to their response to sexual harassment. Should he continue in the election, the GOP needs to take a very strong stand on the issue -- he's essentially forcing their hand. They've more or less done this within Congress (though nothing from Trump).  Should he manage to win the election, then the ethics committee and Congress in general need to become involved, likely resulting in his ouster. 

Any other course of action for either individual gives credence to the "other side" when they try to distract/detract from a given situation by pointing fingers.

Sounds like you have a bit of a dilemma, then.

Don't embed videos in spoilers?

10 hours ago, IndianaJoe3 said:

I just noticed that the, "bold" text style is on by default and can't be turned off. As examples:

 

This is normal text.

This is bold text.

This is italic text.

This is bold italic text.

This is underlined text.

This is bold underlined text.

This is italic underlined text.

This is bold underlined italic text.

 

 

 

No idea what you're talking about....all examples you posted are fine.

Once again (for posterity):  there are a LOT more options.  From following people (and receiving notifications when they post), to following forums, news articles, products, receiving notifications when your name is mentioned, etc.

All configurable under notification settings.  Any email received contains a link to the specific notification setting that generated it (in the event that you want to change it).

Options were toggled based on software defaults.  "I deleted all the e-mails without reading one" is on you.  

Yes, I am frustrated that you seem to expect others to take care of things for you and continue complaining and questioning when it's pointed out (repeatedly) that you can and should handle it on your own.

In short: no - that's on him to do.

It's basic site usage -- If you're getting unwanted notifications, adjust your notifications settings (what I told you to do early on).  It even states this in EVERY EMAIL THAT IS SENT.

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You are receiving this email because you are following the Topic 'Site Upgrade'.
Prefer to stop receiving these emails? Unfollow or Adjust your notification preferences.

1 hour ago, death tribble said:

After receiving over 1,000 e-mails from the system since the upgrade I may finally have sorted the problem out by unfollowing people. Overnight this seems to have been a success.

Before the upgrade I got one e-mail a week. Afterwards I got deluged. I would say that is a glitch in the system. Listing someone as a 'friend' should not have meant that I got notified every time someone did anything on the site.

 

It is worth highlighting as I know that someone else had a lot of friends and may also be getting lots of e-mails now. Particularly as I don't believe he visits that often. Consequently you may get unreliable statistics about what the system is doing and what the users are doing. You don't want to waste your time and we don't want you to waste your time chasing 'phantoms'.

 

I also did not see the 'Notify me of replies' option and am now setting this to No every time I reply.

 

I would say that those with sight problems may find the upgrade beneficial as links are larger than pre-upgrade and putting Youtube video links come up larger as well (other video hosting sites are available).

Unfollowing will work.  OR (and maybe this is just me) you could listen to what I said earlier and turn off notifications for people that you follow:

That's your screen, btw.  Not a glitch in the system, your own settings.

Rather than remembering to change notification settings every time you reply, you could (again) take the advice I gave earlier and change your settings.

In particular, you have only two topics that you follow (both in the NGD), but a slew of members that you're following.  With your current notification settings, you'll receive emails and site notifications anytime one of the members that you're following posts, replies to one of your posts, makes a status update, or does just about anything on the site.

You have absolutely everything checked under the notifications settings (I just went into your account).  You'll get notifications and emails when posts you follow are replied to, when forums you follow are replied to, when people you follow post, etc.  If you don't want those, turn off the appropriate settings.

10 minutes ago, DShomshak said:

This makes me sad, as I like Nolgroth -- not least for reminding me that people can vote Republican and self-identify as conservative, and not be evil or stupid. I had hoped to learn more of his views as a way to expand my own horizons.

 

Perhaps I should take a vacation from the thread myself. Happy trails, all.

 

Dean Shomshak

He received a mild rebuke (in thread) and reacted...poorly.  He was treated no differently than anyone else.

Look harder.

2 minutes ago, Ninja-Bear said:

I just wanted to chime in and say that as a primarily a mobile user, the new site looks great and works fine. It seems brighter than the old forum. One tiny problem and I think you already mentioned it Simon is so far when I try to do a search, nothing comes up. And that was a day or two ago. 

Likely the search indices rebuilding -- it's working fine now.

Make sure that you're searching at the right level -- using the search bar within a specific forum will search only that forum.  Using the search bar at the top level forum listing will default to searching all forums.

It has nothing to do with cookies, or anything else under the site's control.  It is entirely an issue with your system's configuration.

Look in the Activity Streams for that -- and note that you can create your own activity stream if any of the presets don't work for you.