Burrito Boy

You two got to your rooms and think about what you did!!!

Cabin fever is starting to kick in. I've tried sleep, video games. watching movies (started like three before turning them all off), and chores. I feel antsy and discontented. I can't even think about developing many of my hanging roleplaying projects. 

 

Bah humbug!

 

I've been suffering that a lot lately. You have my sympathy.

At least it's a dry heat!  - Hudson, from Aliens

 

Sorry to hear about your cooler. Our A/C went down on one of those 105+ days and it took most of two days to get it fixed. We resorted to fans, cold showers, and freezing our t-shirts to get through it. 

 

It's true about dry heat, though. I'd much rather be here in Nevada where I can handle one hundred degree heat than back in Texas where anything about seventy degrees or higher would make me want to die because of the humidity. In Texas, I had an air conditioner and still couldn't handle summer. Here in Nevada, all I have is a box fan and I don't even use it every day. The only real problem I have here is needing to drink about five hundred gallons of water a day to stay hydrated. Oh, and the chapped lips. I hate that. 

Yes, I know I live in the barren desert...

 

You live in Nevada too?

Damnation Ally McBeal

From a dream: "I didn't go to community college and get a degree in mechanical engineering so Hulk Hogan could tell me how to do my job!"

Sir Thomas More would probably disagree with you, since he was executed for treason for not publicly supporting the primacy of Henry VIII over the Pope in religious matters, despite More never openly declaring his opposition, or even expressing any opinion on the matter. Legally he was in the right, but they railroaded him anyway.

 

I'm also guessing you don't have much experience with indoctrination or brainwashing.

But does the infringement of rights mean those rights don't exist?

The job is done, the pipes didn't explode, and I got paid!

After cutting pipe, threading pipe, and wrenching pipe all day I understand why plumbers charge so much.

Okay, I've gotta know the story behind this.

I'll tell this story soon. I really will. I've just been busy lately.

 

On a related note: I got to use a jackhammer today.

Beans

Clowns are scary freaks. Racists are scary freaks. I can see the correlation.

Nope, I cant have any sympathy for the Burrito, we cant help those that don't want to help themselves.

I understand. I don't even have sympathy for myself. I'm scum. Let me be a lesson to you all that even loyalty--sweet, precious loyalty--can become a bad thing. Look on me not with pity but with the knowledge that you must never allow yourself to follow my example.

Say whaaaaat?

 

Seriously in ww2 the axis used violence (war) to spread fascism and a regime that practiced mass murder, slavery and genocide. The allies waged war (used violence) to stop regimes that practiced and spread fascism, slavery and genocide. According to what you seem to be saying the allies were no better than the axis.

 

Your know what? The neonazis are fighting for an america that would drive out or exterminate tends of millions of people. Like that trump voter in Texas at a rally who shouted he couldn't wait for the "great liberal genocide" to begin.

 

You make think that if the neonazis use violence to promote a fascist America tha r will be a mass grave for tens of millions of Americans and anti fasicstsnuse violence to stop them they're "equivelant".

 

No, they're not.

Point taken. Violence is sometimes justified. But I would argue that what's happening now is far from what was happening in Nazi Germany. People aren't being forced to wear stars to identify that they're Jewish, they're not being forcibly segregated, and they aren't being shipped off to death camps. You can argue that these things might happen if we're not vigilant and I would agree with that. I know that there are people who still hold Nazi beliefs. I abhor them as I think we all do. (We, in this case being everyone in this discussion. Because as we all know there are sympathizers.) When I made my earlier comments about both sides resorting to violence, I wasn't trying to make the point that it's okay for one side to be violent because the other side is. I certainly wasn't condoning murder. I was lamenting that our society has come to the point where so many people think violence is an acceptable method of expressing their opinion. Violence should be a last resort. Neville Chamberlain was foolish for trying to appease Hitler. It's obvious that some people cannot be reasoned with. But the attempt should be made. Too many people now hear a differing opinion and, instead of hearing that person out, immediately call that person a Nazi. I myself was called a "closet Nazi" at the bookstore I used to volunteer at because I said I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton. I just laughed it off since I know who I am and what I believe. I can handle someone who disagrees with me without resorting to name calling or violence. If he had physically attacked me instead of simply calling me a name, I would have been within my rights to defend myself. He would have been the one charged with assault. Claiming someone is a fascist is not a legitimate excuse for attacking them. Using violence to force your opinion on others is actually fascism itself. Antifa using slogans like "Bash the Fash", setting fires, setting people on fire, punching people they identify as Nazis (whether or not those people really are Nazis), sending death threats, breaking windows, and other things they have done in Charlottesville and elsewhere is more reminiscent of Kristallnacht than it is of a concerted effort to end such pogroms.

 

https://spectator.org/radical-anti-fascists-are-pretty-darn-fascist/

 

As for the person who shouted that he couldn't wait for the "great liberal genocide", I don't condone his words at all. In fact I find them disgusting. I would call him out the same as those who chant that they want "dead cops", those who post on Twitter that they can't wait for "white genocide". No matter what side of the political spectrum you're on, certain behavior is unacceptable.

The Bible records Jesus as saying that he came to bring not peace but a sword, and that he would set families against each other.

I'm not a theologian but I am a Christian and to me this verse (Matthew 10:34) means that some people will accept Christ as their savior and follow Him while others, sometimes in the same family as a believer, will not. It's not a call to violence.

Well said.

 

For an Atheist Foreign influence whose loyalties to Aquaman have never been confirmed!!

 

(Sorry, trying to lighten things up. I'm sure you love Aquaman in your heart- all good people do)

Damn straight! Aquaman rocks.

If they were expressing a philosophy of hatred and genocide maybe, but they weren't. Nor did they murder anybody. Ergo there is no equivalency.

They both use violence but there's no equivalency because they're violent for different reasons? That makes no sense to me. Given, murder is worse than assault. As I said before, when talking about murder and vandalism not being equivalent, both are crimes. Both should be punished according to their severity. We shouldn't begin judging whether something is a crime based on the philosophy of the perpetrator rather than the nature of the crime.

That's too bad. Hey can I have your stuff when you're dead?

 

Nope. I'm going to have it piled around me and burned at my cremation.

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll find a cure before it's too late.

I appreciate you trying to reassure me but it's incurable. The Chargers themselves have tried curing me several times: going 1-15, letting go of Seau, letting go of Tomlinson, moving to L.A. Nothing has worked. I'm terminal.

So, uh, who is your new favorite team?

 

 

*runs for cover*

I don't have a new favorite team. I'm still a Chargers fan.

Chargers fail to draw a bigger crowd than L.A. Galaxy for their preseason debut

 

Same stadium on consecutive nights, ~4500 fewer fans for the Chargers.

 

Not good.

I know I said this thread is dead to me but I feel it my duty to say, "Preseason!"

 

This thread is now dead to me again. I'm going to go back to my wailing and gnashing of teeth. Carry on with your business.

What I have seen is many people trying to sell equivalency between people who publicly advocate racism, and those who oppose it. The actions of whatever fraction of either side in this latest incident actually stooped to vandalism or violence, doesn't justify or excuse the attitude and purpose behind the rallying white nationalists.

Trying to say advocating racism and opposing it are equivalent is insane. But, sadly, I'm not surprised there are people who feel that way.

Charlottesville appears to be the first true test of Trump's presidency, and it looks like he would have to reach up substantially to garner a mere "failing" grade.

 

I have got to stay away from certain corners of Facebook. Some people still seem to find some sort of moral equivalency between vandalism (tearing down a statue that will eventually be removed anyway) and murder (driving a car into a crowd of people you disagree with).

I personally haven't seen people finding equivalency between vandalism and murder. What I have seen is people laughing about the vandalism and condoning it, as if committing more crimes is the right answer to the first crime. That mentality is as absurd as the one that equates murder with vandalism. However, both are crimes and both should be punished.

 

And I can't help wondering how long it will take until people progress from destroying statues they don't like to burning books they don't like.

Well, you have to be cute. Otherwise, pestering just becomes an annoyance, rather than an endearment.

Damn. I haven't been cute for thirty years or so.

Are there any six-year olds here? They're really good at pestering.

I have the maturity level of a six-year-old. Does that count?