Cancer Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Sport and Exercise Science is the worst; even the liberal arts people sneer at them as a bunch of glorified playground monitors, but they are bunkered over in Arts & Sciences with the liberal arts, who are not going to be able to drum them out for mathlessness since everyone else there is nearly as bad. By contrast, General Science was purged when a program audit within Science and Engineering (where General Science was) revealed it to be just a crippled biology degree with all the math parts excised, and among the real science and engineering types the contempt was so universal there was no stink at all about killing it off. We don't have a degree program for librarians here. I'm at home now and I can't recall the other program whose name includes "Science" in an oxymoronic way. I'll look it up tomorrow. Might be Environmental; I know there's three different programs whose names include that word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Purge with Flammenwerfer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yeah, the other is Environmental Science, which is an odd duck; it's taught out of Civil & Environmental Engineering, but the Environmental Science degree doesn't require calculus or the calculus-based physics (etc.) courses. Not entirely sure what to make of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Science degree for non-scientists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 And that brings to mind the old nursery rhyme: And when you're in, you're in And when you're out, you're out And when you're only halfway in You're neither in nor out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just out of curiosity, does completion of the program in question result in a BA or a BS? (Incidentally, at my alma mater, it is possible to earn a BA in biology, but not in chemistry, physics, or mathematics.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Results in a BS. Here we have both BA and BS programs in the standard sciences: Biology, Chemistry, Math, Physics. But BS only in Biochemistry and the engineering programs. I know no details about the other departments, but the BA in physics requires fewer things (which means that most of our double-majors go the BA route, because otherwise it's almost impossible even in principle to graduate in four years). EDIT: I see the now-extinct General Science program was a BS, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 As my maths is very rusty, and science I read would have to be no-maths-included. I can't be the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 There's nothing at all wrong with that. You aren't pursuing a degree in something that calls itself a science. Despite how I sound at times, there is no reason everyone should be a scientist, and lots of reasons why most people shouldn't be one. There are lots of intellectual... and other ... pursuits that aren't science and are worthy of study and practice. It's just that if you are going to engage in an endeavor that calls itself a science, then there's some mathematical rigor and sophistication that make for essential items in the toolkit. If you can't handle those, then you most probably are going to have limited success in that endeavor. There are exceptions to that, but not many of them are above the button-sorter/cage-cleaner level. And construction and operation of a degree program in something that supposedly is a science, but one that aids and abets people deluding themselves that they can get by without the math, is ... unethical. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Science without math is like tennis without a racket. (Also, finding a good metaphor is like trying to balance Jell-O on a pencil.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Never had Jell-O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 It's like aspic, but usually fruit flavored. And without larks' tongues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Congealed fruit-flavored slime, without the unspeakability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 The cats seem to be pleased that we have returned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 "Ah, Hooman. You were gone. I thought it was a bit on the quiet side." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I know I always feel better when my employees return from vacation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 And when they return the next work day too? And the next, and the next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yeah. But they still complain even though they get to take 12 hours off every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Ah, the American labor market ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Setting the expectations bar a little high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 I'm on my way to Day One of a three-day conference on Professional Learning Communities. Wish me luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Good luck. I have had rather limited success with those sort of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Break a leg, in the theatrical sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 How's your insurance, BTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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