Cancer Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Of the machine in the building that had power, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 What services are affected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 What services are affected? Internal stuff like student records and personnel, personal and team file storage, all internal networks, telephone, the internal email gateway .... Just about everything but what's on actual desktop machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 ... and it's all still down, nearly 12 hours later. And three days before a planned major systems upgrade, though not everything that's still down was slated to be upgraded. I wonder what major mistake those DFUAs made that caused things to be so vulnerable. Usually Seattle City Light is pretty reliable. Wonder what the root cause was. Leading the betting is some contractor blunder, but I have sen nothing in the way of hard info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Another seven hours, everything still down. What an amazing infrastructural fail. Not even an estimated up time. Trying to decide if it's worth going in to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Sometime in the last ten minutes, the internet came live again. None of the more-or-less essential on-campus services are up yet (phones, email, institutional data, printers, ...) but we are no longer strictly in a post-apocalyptic cave with one last 120VAC power supply, which is where we've been since about 11AM yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Sweet, sweet electricity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Yeah, though I wonder if the glorious DFUAs which are our campus IT structure got caught violating this bit of advice. There already was planned to be a major upgrade to several services this coming weekend, and there was a previously announced "last possible access" date (today, I think) for some pre-upgrade services. Wouldn't surprise me if the bolt-from-the-blue yesterday of a data center power failure caught them completely off guard with safeties deactivated. I.e., they were doing a Chernobyl and did not have the full mastery of circumstance they thought they had. That "not having the full mastery they thought they had" is (1) characteristic of them and (2) a well-recognized indicator of incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I.e., they were probably being silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 They have always been silly, though I tend to use harsher words than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 "Ninnyhammers"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 My usual term for them is concealed by the acronym above, DFUAs. Dedicated F***-Up Artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 There's no keeping a good eejit down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Well, their strength is that of zombie hordes. They are quasi-infinite in numbers, and implacable in their purpose. Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I have floated the suggestion of building bonfires and punishing/disposing of the incompetents that way, with the side point of raffling off the honors of tossing in the first torch. That might bring in a fair amount of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 That's a pretty Rennaisance attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 It works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 For me, too. Because a postscript popped up today. Turns out the master authentication system is still bollixed, in the sense that if you change your password (and there's a calendar-based timer that forces you to do that) that change doesn't get propagated down to the virtual desktops. I.e., you can log in but you can't get to your own files, and if you can, you can't touch them. Believe it or not, I actually guessed that might happen. I remember too much about authentication snafus from my old email support days, and realized that that problem wouldn't be obvious when they brought more or less everything back up. Only when Someone Important does their calendar-forced password change and no longer can do anything useful does the fire to get this fixed get lit under the appropriate sets of genitalia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Sounds like an AD replication problem. I don't envy your IT people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Their reputation for competence and consideration of their customer base is such that ... well, there's lots of people who don't envy them. Sort of a crowd looking for a necktie party, more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Still no progress on the change-password bug that the users can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 If there are tombstoned domain controllers involved, it'll be more than a 'bug'. And even 'ordinary' domain replication problems can take decades to sort out if there are many accounts involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 I think these clods can be counted on to have done things wrong, on the cheap, for more than a dozen years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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