Curufea Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship I've a side view that isn't a cut-away as well. I'll put that up tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojira Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship This is pretty darn cool. Rep for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thia Halmades Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship It would be cool. If I could see it. Curses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austenandrews Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship I can't see it, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship Time this morning before going to work necessitated me uploading to my wiki, which may be the problem. Just in case, the hexmapped versions are now PNG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojira Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship My web browser (Mozilla) will act as a viewer for gifs (the images you can't see) as well as most other image formats. Just clicking on the link brings up a dialog with options to "download" or "view with the default application (Mozilla)". I'm like 90% sure Internet Explore will view images too. You may have to goof around with the default app settings though. Or just download Mozilla (or Firefox ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austenandrews Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship IE usually displays gifs without incident. For some reason mine couldn't display those. Dang, Curu, that's a big ship! Real range penalties for shooting stem to stern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship Time this morning before going to work necessitated me uploading to my wiki' date=' which may be the problem. Just in case, the hexmapped versions are now PNG.[/quote'] Dangit. How dare you post those after I colorized the dang thing? Anyway. Keith ":)" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship Wow! I wanted 300DPI because photocopies are a bit dodgy on line quality and I didn't want to miss stuff. Feel free to lower the resolution down to acceptable levels When I get home after work today, I'll put up the external side view as well. There are other ships in this book, larger (up to 40 guns) and smaller as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship Actually, I made it 72 dpi. All gifs are 72 dpi, so you should have no problem. I split it into three parts for easier printing, but the hexes are 1" hexes. Keith "Hoist your colors" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship Dang the Five Rep A Day limite ... I owe Curufea for the ship and Keith for the color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted December 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship This is a mid sized ship - by the time you log on tomorrow, I should have up a larger and smaller ship as well for folk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted December 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship Derfflinger Side view Berlin Freidrich Wilhelm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship Once again, very cool stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted December 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship I need the Derfflinger for this Sunday's session (raid on a pirate ship) - but if I have time, I'd like to extrapolate out the lower decks. As you can see in the Berlin side view - there exist hull dimensions as well. The book is almost perfect for a scale modeller. I haven't uploaded the hull profiles for the other ships as they are of limited interest, but they give a good idea on how large the lower decks would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted December 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship I just wish I had the later 18thC Napoleonic ships - they got up to 120 guns. If interested the books I've got copies of are- Schiffsrisse zur schiffbaugeschichte : Hollandische und Deutsche-schiffe 1597 bis 1680 (vol 1) Which has the three I've put up so far and a few more, and Schiffsrisse zur schiffbaugeschichte : Englische und Amerikanische Schiffe 1577 bis 1810 (vol 2) Both by Robert Loef Verlag They're about 30 pages long each and other than the diagrams just have a couple of paragraphs about each ship. Which, if I could read German, would no doubt be interesting So the important lesson here for internet searching - try foreign language words BTW, did everyone try a link I posted a while ago for a paper model on a Russian website for a 3 mast ship (the Mary Rose). It works - I made the model - but the site is slow. It's here- http://jtdigest.narod.ru/dig1_01/rouse.htm I found it via this website- http://www.spacestation42.com/pt-boats.html I just had a look at the Mary Rose site then - that's not the model I built. They seem to have posted a better version. Possibly this version will be easier to construct... Whoops - I made the Arabella, not the Mary Rose, here- http://jtdigest.narod.ru/dig4_01/museum.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Re: 17thc Sailling ship I heartily recommend a book by J. Guilmartin titled "Galleys & Galleons" (which is a VERY DIFFERENT book from his "Gunpowder and Galleys") which discusses the technology developments around this era ... this late 17th-C flute is just about at the end of the time period he discusses. (Gunpowder and Galleys is much more focussed on the evolution of galleys, oar-driven ships. Also a very good book, though not so glitzy, but a different focus. Galleys are NOT transoceanic ships.) Not only do the Napoleonic ships mount more guns, the later guns are bigger and have more ship-killing power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Re: 17thc Sailling ship OOOoooooooo.......aaaaahhhhhhhhhh1 Normally I would say "maps map maps maps maps...." But I think "deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans...." is better in this case.... so.... deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans deckplans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Sloop Got anything in a sloop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Re: 17thc Sailling ship (Gunpowder and Galleys is much more focussed on the evolution of galleys, oar-driven ships. Also a very good book, though not so glitzy, but a different focus. Galleys are NOT transoceanic ships.) Tell it to Captain Kidd and his Adventure Galley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrPuma Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Re: 17thc Sailling ship While this is still near the top, I should show off one of my favorite Dutch tourist attractions: http://www.bataviawerf.nl/en/index.html. They have a reconstruction (that's 1:1, folks) of the East Indiaman Batavia, the original ship having sunk on its way to Java in 1636. There's a virtual tour, and also information on the reconstruction-in-progress of De Ruyter's flagship 7 Provincien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Re: 17thc Sailling ship Tell it to Captain Kidd and his Adventure Galley The Adventure Galley wasn't really a galley. It had oars, but the hull was a much more seaworthy design than what is usually referred to as a galley. It had three permanent masts too, rather than one mast that was taken down for combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Re: 17thc Sailling ship The Adventure Galley wasn't really a galley. It had oars' date=' but the hull was a much more seaworthy design than what is usually referred to as a galley. It had three permanent masts too, rather than one mast that was taken down for combat.[/quote'] It was what shipwrights of the period considered the latest in galley designs, esentially a light frigate with sweeps. I really do understand the difference, and it's discussed in much more detail in Kidds biography Pirate Hunter. Classical galleys... you're totally right... but they were pretty close to gone by the 17th c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Re: 17thc Sailling ship It was what shipwrights of the period considered the latest in galley designs, esentially a light frigate with sweeps. I really do understand the difference, and it's discussed in much more detail in Kidds biography Pirate Hunter. Classical galleys... you're totally right... but they were pretty close to gone by the 17th c. They stayed around for quite a while in the Mediterranean though. They were still good warships as long as land was in sight when the weather started roughing up. There was some battle in the 1700s between Italians and Turks that involved several galleys. Can't think of the name right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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