Kristopher Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by Gary Doom, Luthor, etc are comic book characters and their opponents have script immunity. I can easily say that a 50 int with a 20- tactics roll would expect the other person to goad him, and would incorporate it into his plans and set up a trap. If facing a 10 int tactician, he would constantly throw out surprises and change plans on the fly, thus forcing 10 int to do the same thing. And if both sides had to change their plans on the fly, 50 int wins easily. An Arrogant Manic won't change his plan, though, because his plan is PREFECT, I TELL YOU, PREFECT! NO ONE QUESTIONS ME, LACKEY! That's the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 I think there's no question the 50 INT guy would be able to perceive things on the battlefield much more clearly IF he can overcome his arrogant preconceptions("There's no way they can foil this plan!"). So, a 20 EGO villain with a total committment lim needs an 8- to snap out of it and do what he needs to do to salvage his plan. Maybe less if it's blatantly obvious. I'd give him a small bonus to his ego roll if he makes the per roll by a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vondy Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by Gary Doom, Luthor, etc are comic book characters and their opponents have script immunity. I can easily say that a 50 int with a 20- tactics roll would expect the other person to goad him, and would incorporate it into his plans and set up a trap. If facing a 10 int tactician, he would constantly throw out surprises and change plans on the fly, thus forcing 10 int to do the same thing. And if both sides had to change their plans on the fly, 50 int wins easily. And yet, as we see in the source material (comics), they never do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 One huge advantage of the 50 int guy is his 19- perception roll vs the 11- perception roll of the 10 int guy. 50 int will be able to perceive when something goes wrong with his plans, whereas 10 int will tend to think everything is going according to plan even if it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by D-Man And yet, as we see in the source material (comics), they never do... That's because if the good guys lost we would cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Re: Re: A theory Originally posted by Killer Shrike Actually, thats a very plausible theory. Thanks, KS, until I find out anything official to the contrary (and maybe even then ), I think I'm going to go with that for my campaigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 ARGH! CURSES! A double post! Throwing off my delicate operation and perfect record thus far on these boards.... No, wait, no way I could have made an error, some lackey must have slipped up. *Decides the frickin sharks with lazer beams on their frickin heads will feast tonight....* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by Gary One huge advantage of the 50 int guy is his 19- perception roll vs the 11- perception roll of the 10 int guy. 50 int will be able to perceive when something goes wrong with his plans, whereas 10 int will tend to think everything is going according to plan even if it isn't. It doesn't matter how impressive his PER roll is, he has that massive PsychLim in the way. Even if he might preceive taht his plan is going awry, he'll never be able to admit it to himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by Kristopher It doesn't matter how impressive his PER roll is, he has that massive PsychLim in the way. Even if he might preceive taht his plan is going awry, he'll never be able to admit it to himself. Or he'll simply say: "Only an intellect as brilliant as mine would have caught that error in time." Then alter the plan and succeed anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent X Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 I see you guys have noticed the problems with defining intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZootSoot Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Originally posted by Kevin Scrivner No, no, no. It's applied intelligence that matters. The smartest character in CU is ... Dr. Silverback! He was wise enough not to have become a villain just because he's stuck in an ape's body. And he has his priorities right. He lets ego-driven do-gooders such as Defender confront Mechanon and get the snot beaten out of them while he works a cushy research job and surrounds himself with lovely young assistants. Is there a write-up of Silverback somewhere? He is described as "superhumanly intelligent" and since Teleios' 50 is peak of human capacity it suggests Silverback's could be even higher. I think we have to look at what characters have to work with and how well they achieve their goals. How long has Destroyer been trying to rule the world? How long has Mechanon been trying to destroy it? How long has Teleios worked at making it his own private lab? i don't think any hero could be most intelligent, they are all reactive and seem to have as a primary goal keeping things as they are. I think the villain who has shown himself to effective at achieving his goals, even when his resources have been minimal, is probably smarter than any of the others. Thus I propose, Dark Harlequin!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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