Susano Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I'm putting this here, as it seems to fit best with the Danger International feel of 5th Edition Dark Champions. http://www.esquire.com/the-side/opinion/7totalitarianwonders They are: Fist Crushing U.S. Fighter Plane, Libya Monument to President Laurent Kabila, Democratic Republic of Congo Lenin’s Mausoleum, Russia Monument to President Saparmurat Niyazov, Turkmenistan Mao Leading the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, China The Hands of Victory, Iraq Monument to the Founding of the North Korean Worker's Party, North Korea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBaldy Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Great Lenin's Ghost!!! Makes you wonder... doesn't it? Ooooh... that's why they are called The Seven "Wonders" of the Totalitarian World. They make you "wonder" why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markdoc Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Great Lenin's Ghost!!! Makes you wonder... doesn't it? Ooooh... that's why they are called The Seven "Wonders" of the Totalitarian World. They make you "wonder" why. I don't wonder why. I think "Compensation complex". Seriously. So many of these guys (and gals - not to forget Ceausescu's wife) not only build giant ugly monuments, but they publish books, or plays, or scientific publications - and then ensure everybody reads them by making it the law. The words "seriously expletive-deleted up" springs to mind. cheers, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted August 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World I don't wonder why. I think "Compensation complex". Seriously. So many of these guys (and gals - not to forget Ceausescu's wife) not only build giant ugly monuments, but they publish books, or plays, or scientific publications - and then ensure everybody reads them by making it the law. The words "seriously expletive-deleted up" springs to mind. cheers, Mark Yeah, here in the US we don't do stuff like that... we just try and get somethin in all 3,000+ counties named after Ronald Reagan.... Wait.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World This looks like it should be a monopoly piece or a super-villain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Legs Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Wait! I seriously thought Lenin's tomb had been like destroyed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Huh? How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World I suppose I could look up some of this info, but I remember something about statues of lenin and stalin coming down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World And according to wiki, lenin is still in residence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Legs Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Huh? How so? Like when all the communist sh*t was tossed away and burned and shtuff, I thought it was like EVERYTHING. Seriously, like Lenin was the most hated human ever in Russia then and why'd they keep his carcass around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Like when all the communist sh*t was tossed away and burned and shtuff' date=' I thought it was like [b']EVERYTHING[/b]. Seriously, like Lenin was the most hated human ever in Russia then and why'd they keep his carcass around? Being Born-Again Capitalist they recognized the value of a tourist attraction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markdoc Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Being Born-Again Capitalist they recognized the value of a tourist attraction? Also, I think there's some confusion here over the post-communist eastern European countries where statues of Russians - like Lenin and Stalin - were torn down, and post-communist Russia - where they pretty much all stayed up, or were moved to less conspicuous locations. cheers, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Stalin was actually a Georgian, wasn't he? And I wouldn't say Lenin was the most hated person in Russia at the fall of the Union. Stalin could have been less liked by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World I drive past this every month or two; I used to live about a 20-minute walk from it. It is tolerated, I think, because of the delicious irony. And it's very cool. I have no idea how many drunken urinations occur against it every weekend, but considering the location, the number must be nontrivial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World I drive past this every month or two; I used to live about a 20-minute walk from it. It is tolerated, I think, because of the delicious irony. And it's very cool. I have no idea how many drunken urinations occur against it every weekend, but considering the location, the number must be nontrivial. Dude I had no idea...Funny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Legs Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Being Born-Again Capitalist they recognized the value of a tourist attraction? "Born-Again Capitalists" FTW. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Love it! :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Legs Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World I drive past this every month or two; I used to live about a 20-minute walk from it. It is tolerated, I think, because of the delicious irony. And it's very cool. I have no idea how many drunken urinations occur against it every weekend, but considering the location, the number must be nontrivial. Wow. That is like freaky as hell. OMG, that's one a the crazyest things I've like ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Wow. That is like freaky as hell. OMG' date=' that's one a the crazyest things I've like ever seen.[/quote'] The Forest statue is the one that gets me. Though if I had extra cash to throw away, I'd be tempted to ship the Lenin statue to Utah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Legs Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World The Forest statue is the one that gets me. Though if I had extra cash to throw away, I'd be tempted to ship the Lenin statue to Utah... Err, maybe I'm just stupid but I don't see nothing called no "Forest Statue". What I miss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World I drive past this every month or two; I used to live about a 20-minute walk from it. It is tolerated, I think, because of the delicious irony. And it's very cool. I have no idea how many drunken urinations occur against it every weekend, but considering the location, the number must be nontrivial. Out of curiousity, is the statue facing west? In the gaming group I was with about 8 years or so ago, one of the players would mention that Lenin swore that either he or his statues would never point to the west. I don't know if it's an urban legend, something he made up, or the truth, but I'd find it funny if this statue faced west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted August 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Err' date=' maybe I'm just stupid but I don't see nothing called no "Forest Statue". What I miss?[/quote'] Statue of Nathaniel Bedford Forrest, CSA officer and founder of the KKK. It is mentioned and linked to, in this link: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/WASEAlenin.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Out of curiousity' date=' is the statue facing west? In the gaming group I was with about 8 years or so ago, one of the players would mention that Lenin swore that either he or his statues would never point to the west. I don't know if it's an urban legend, something he made up, or the truth, but I'd find it funny if this statue faced west.[/quote'] The closest cardinal direction to its facing is west. Probably a little north of due west, looking at a map and thinking about where the statue is. Of course, here, that could well be the direction of the shortest path to Russia. I am certain that would be purest accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Legs Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Statue of Nathaniel Bedford Forrest' date=' CSA officer and founder of the KKK. It is mentioned and linked to, in this link: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/WASEAlenin.html[/quote'] OK. I didn't follow the link cause I'm like soooo much don't want to hear about the KKK. But I read it now so like I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Also' date=' I think there's some confusion here over the post-communist eastern European countries where statues of [b']Russians[/b] - like Lenin and Stalin - were torn down, and post-communist Russia - where they pretty much all stayed up, or were moved to less conspicuous locations. cheers, Mark To be precise, the statues of Stalin were torn down in the 1950s during de-Stalinization, with one or two exceptions like the one outside the Stalin Museum in his hometown of Gory in Georgia. The Lenins are mostly kept as historical monuments. There is one three blocks from my apartment. The government floats the idea of burying Lenin every couple of years, then there are protests (mostly from elderly people), and then they decide to postpone it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Seven Wonders of the Totalitarian World Stalin was actually a Georgian, wasn't he? And I wouldn't say Lenin was the most hated person in Russia at the fall of the Union. Stalin could have been less liked by far. Lenin had been dead for 60+ years in 1991. Nobody had any stong feelings about him one way or the other. Stalin was Georgian and spoke Russian with a strong accent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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