Mixing Up Comic Book Ages

[Clonus]

A question occurred to me. It's perfectly possible to take a bronze or iron age approach to World War II. The modern age would be World War II with lots more treason and cannibalism. But what if you tried to apply the Golden Age to the modern day?

 

Typical origins were:

 

1. The discovery of magic items at archaeological digs

2. Special training from a secret society often in Tibet

3. Being a native of a secret society of merpeople, bird people, amazons, whatever.

4. Accidental exposure to biochemicals

5. Deliberate experimentation with biochemicals.

6. Being a robot or android

 

The secret societies are more of a stretch these days, but an underground city or two in Tibet is still feasible.

 

Technically the Golden Age started before the American entry into World War II, and continued for a few years after it, but that was the downward slope. To have a Golden Age we need Nazis, although DC's Golden Age actually had a tendency to have them fight substitutes from other planets of the Solar System. Wonder Woman for example bumped heads with Martians and Saturnians a lot. Say, how about we go with the Nazi flying saucers idea? The Nazis developed the saucers but because they were still losing they used them to flee into space and colonized Mars or something. They come back to try to find "aryan" women to abduct and bring back to fuel their population growth and to plant their fifth columnists and giant robots in preparation for Der Tag. That way we can still have our Nazis.

 

Would there have been superheroes in the actual World War II? Then most of our heroes would be their descendants, or the actual same guys, preserved by immortality or suspended animation. One issue would be Code versus Killing. In the actual Golden Age, while they weren't casual killers, they didn't usually have a hard and fast rule against it. Curiously, the rule generally seemed to be that heroes wouldn't normally kill directly, but they could kill people by indirect means such as drowning them, stranding them on a mountain, making their plane crash, setting off explosions.

[RexMundi]

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The Golden Age wasn't as kind and as fluffy as folks seem to think though. The Spider, for example would make Frank Castle look like a boy scout and he wasn't the only character from the pulps OR the only character from the golden age of comics that didn't have an issue with Killing...... My Current campaign though follows a very similar arc as to what you describe with a few twists here and there that most folks wouldn't expect.

 

~Rex

[Enforcer84]

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indeed, to me what separates the golden age from the iron age is the gore. And the Golden Age's patriotic leanings.

[Clonus]

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The Golden Age wasn't as kind and as fluffy as folks seem to think though. The Spider, for example would make Frank Castle look like a boy scout and he wasn't the only character from the pulps OR the only character from the golden age of comics that didn't have an issue with Killing......

 

~Rex

 

There are always exceptions to the general tendencies of each age.

[Ninja-Bear]

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You could look at the code vs killing like this. Enemy combatants that get killed in the line of duty are the course of war. It is regretable, but nessecery. There can still be a line that could be crossed. Civilians, such as thugs, are non-combatants so they shouldn't be killed, and we'll let the courts deal with their fates.

[RexMundi]

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There are always exceptions to the general tendencies of each age.

 

We're not talking just an exception here and there. Killing in Comics did not go out of favor until the evil Comics Code Authority had their finger in everything, and by then, we were in the Silver Age. Granted, a lot of Direct Gore was never shown, but they more then just implied it. One would never have been able to get away with a comic like Faust back in the late 30's 40's and early 50's, but there were more then just a few Golden Age Characters that wracked up a body count back in the day so to refer to them as an exception, isn't accurate.

 

So can you mix Genre's, by all means, especially since I can name more then a few dozen titles from the golden age, and even into the silver age (though genre specific there) that had body counts worthy of anything in the Iron Age short of a city or planet being destroyed.

The biggest mistake people make about the golden age is thinking it was all fluff and lightness. There were LOTS of serious (most of them were), and very dark characters (most of them were), but the ones most folks seem to remember were the few here and there that stood out. A fairly large amount of Golden Age, is darker then the Bronze, and darker then the Iron Age. It's just that the stories didn't start that way intentionally, they developed, because back then, folks wrote in novelized Arc format, and many of the stories had to actually have a beginning, middle, and an end, and the companies had editors that would enforce things like deadlines and continuity.

 

The Golden Age was simpler in scope though. The Structure was cleaner. Like the Champions Book pointed out. The Atom was a Short guy that could Box. Wildcat, was a big guy that could box. But you also had things like the Spectre stomping about, not to mention Superman etc....but the Prefered character back then, was the ones that folks felt, that the reader could imagine stepping into the tights of.

 

Nowadays, not so much. Comics have drifted away from, singular characters I suppose and their story, to mass Super Hero/Villain dynamics within their own social groups, and then pile on the emo and the angst. But, many, of the Golden Age elements are making a return. Granted that's more because a lot of Good Writers and Artists remember those characters, but things that started in that age, have always played well and strong. You have more success in the comic Industry now, bringing back an old Golden Age guy (Take Tom Strong for example, a fine tuned version of Doc Strange from Nedor Comics in 1940 (aka Dr. Thomas Hugo Strange), and he even met his original template in his own comic series....) Folks remember that stuff....

 

But try and make something new......Compared to the Golden Age characters of greatness, can anyone think, that folks will remember Spawn, 80 Years down the road? Who knows.....but back to the topic....

 

If you really know the Ages of Comics, and are familier with the depth of character prevelant in each age, then mixing the ages is no problem. All you have to do to see that, is look at DC, and what they've done over the last decade or so, with the JSA. It works, if you don't shakle yourself to one specific example or another, within a broad arc of possibilities.

 

~Rex

[Yansuf]

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The Golden Age wasn't as kind and as fluffy as folks seem to think though. The Spider, for example would make Frank Castle look like a boy scout and he wasn't the only character from the pulps OR the only character from the golden age of comics that didn't have an issue with Killing...... My Current campaign though follows a very similar arc as to what you describe with a few twists here and there that most folks wouldn't expect.

 

~Rex

 

Golden age traditionally refers to early superhero comic; the spider was a pulp character who precedes superheroes.

Many pulp characters were killer vigilantes.

[RexMundi]

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Golden age traditionally refers to early superhero comic; the spider was a pulp character who precedes superheroes.

Many pulp characters were killer vigilantes.

 

And many would never Kill. Neither, The Golden Age, Nor Pulp, were two dimensional rehashes. Take, The Spider from the Pulps. Mass Body Count. Doc Savage, wouldn't kill a Bear trying to eat him, Yet, The Spider from DC/Quality, Tom Ludlow Halloway, Golden Age Comics character that's been everything from a Playboy, to a Murderer, wouldn't kill, then retconned into a killer, then reversed, then back and forth........Then you have the British Comics Spider, another Supervillain later turned Hero, but he was more of a silver age guy....then again, Brit comics in the 60's weren't hampered by the Comics Code.....

 

Also you can't seperate the Pulps from the Golden Age completely. The Pulps are where a lot of the golden age characters sprang from, or emulated. More then a few major pulp character migrated to comics, some more then a few times. Looking back on the Golden Age and running with the assumption that they were patiche of 2D four color and all cheery Andy Griffith or Deputy Andy from Eureka, really sells the majority of the Golden Age short.

 

Clonus tossed up a lot of Origins in his initial post as well......All those Origns hold true in ANY age.....I can even think of Image comic characters with those Origins much less Golden Age guys. Even the secret Societies thing wouldn't be a stretch nowadays. Otherwise, you never would have seen Davinci Code and friends as books nor movies....It all still works, because it was done right the first time. All the Iron Age did was add more gore, and remove things like, background and continuity. So yes you can very easily mix the ages, and you can do it without insulting the "genre" of any one given age. That's the nice thing about the Super Hero genre in general. It IS, every Genre, rolled up into one. Just look at the Avengers, or the Justice League.

 

~Rex

[Clonus]

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And many would never Kill. Neither' date=' The Golden Age, Nor Pulp, were two dimensional rehashes. Take, The Spider from the Pulps. Mass Body Count. Doc Savage, wouldn't kill a Bear trying to eat him[/quote'],

 

But his assistants would drop a criminal out of a plane for a joke.

 

 

Yet, The Spider from DC/Quality, Tom Ludlow Halloway, Golden Age Comics character that's been everything from a Playboy, to a Murderer, wouldn't kill, then retconned into a killer, then reversed, then back and forth..

 

His Iron Age rewrites aren't relevant. The Golden Age Spider had this weird flat arrowhead that he'd use to knock guns out of criminal's hands so he was hardly a killer vigilante.

 

 

Clonus tossed up a lot of Origins in his initial post as well......All those Origns hold true in ANY age.....I can even think of Image comic characters with those Origins much less Golden Age guys.

 

Such as?

 

 

Even the secret Societies thing wouldn't be a stretch nowadays. Otherwise, you never would have seen Davinci Code and friends as books nor movie

s....

 

I wasn't talking about conspiracies living in our society. I was talking about things like the amazons and Shangri-la.

 

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[RexMundi]

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Someday I'll figure out how to do Context quoting.....alright....First shot.....Doc's team didn't kill, at least not on purpose, heh. Such a thing was frowned upon by Doc but then, they were All War Veterns so it was certainly within their range of talent, Still, even Ham who carried a sword cane, kept it tipped in anesthetic......

 

Now we'll go to Tom Halloway. The Golden Age Original. No Kill. His immeadiate Post Crisis (Bronze Age beginnings, Silver Age endings) was a Murderer......lemme swipe this real quick to save me type time.....

 

In the Post-Crisis on Infinite Earths continuity, the Spider is not heroic. Tom Ludlow Hallaway did not become the Spider out of an altruistic motive, but rather because he was a smuggler, kidnapper and murderer who used the guise of a superhero as a cover to help him eliminate the competition. Though originally based in St. Louis, Missouri, he is a member of the Ludlow clan from New England. The family inadvertently ran up against The Shade, a near immortal and sometimes-villain from the Golden Age. The family had a history of ill-gotten gains, having originally amassed their vast wealth by killing off their partners in a business enterprise.

 

Instead of working with the Freedom Fighters, this revised Spider was a member of the Seven Soldiers of Victory (also known as The Law's Legionnaires). The Crisis on Infinite Earths had erased the Golden Age Green Arrow and Speedy from existence, and the Spider helped fill the void in the team. Shining Knight, the Vigilante and his partner Stuff, the original Star-Spangled Kid and Stripesy, and the Crimson Avenger were on board with the Spider. As depicted in Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E. #9, during the final case of the Seven Soldiers, the Spider betrayed them to their old enemy, the Iron Hand (who had created the cosmic menace known as the Nebula Man). The Spider killed the Vigilante's friend Billy Gunn, but was stopped by the Crimson Avenger's partner Wing, who went on to save the day against the Nebula Man (though at the cost of his own life).

 

With the only people who knew him to be a criminal gone, the Spider continued his heroic facade. He became the hero-in-residence of Keystone City after the Flash retired in 1950. Unfortunately his Ludlow heritage caught up with him, as did the Shade. The Spider had been planning to face the Shade for quite a while and had a plan to defeat the immortal. He had saved fragments and shreds of the Shade's shadow substance, intending to plant them at the scene of a double murder, that of Jay Garrick (the Golden Age Flash) and his wife Joan. The Spider hoped to lessen the Shade's power by keeping him captive near a roaring fireplace, but the added light only increased the shadows, and the Shade created arrow-casting monsters that shot the Spider with black arrows. The Shade escaped in time to prevent the Garricks' murders, even convincing his old enemy, the Flash, to leave him out of the spotlight on the case.

 

Now, let's see if I can get quick reply to co-operate.....Characters from the Image family, that have the types of Origins you posted.....I'll just list one for now....I can expand later....Image is without arguement all Iron Age we can assume.

 

1. The discovery of magic items at archaeological digs : The Witchblade, was originally recovered from an Archeaological Dig.

 

2. Special training from a secret society often in Tibet : Tough one, but the Coda qualifies as such a society, having provided a lot of Training for The Grifter

 

3. Being a native of a secret society of merpeople, bird people, amazons, whatever. : To easy, the Kheribum, the Daemonites, etc etc ....In fact, probably the easiest origin for Image.

 

4. Accidental exposure to biochemicals: Tough one for Image they like Radiation more then biochemicals. Still, applies to Half the members of Freak Force. Astro City is Image..long list.

 

5. Deliberate experimentation with biochemicals. : Any member of Brigade since they are all Reanimated biochemically super powered "zombies" anyway...Early Super Patriot as well. Chapel from Youngblood as revealed in Spawn when Spawn melted his face off because said serum also infected one with HIV and Chapel didn't care who he gave it to.....Most of Gen 13 in one way or another as part of the creation process.

 

6. Being a robot or android : Spartan, Diehard, etc etc etc ....

 

 

Now as for Secret Societies in our own time? We've got Cable Channels that devote tons of programming to just that. Including such things as Shangrila, which would be a Secret Civilization, more then a society. No telling what's out there anymore. If we all KNEW about it, it wouldn't be a Secret Society. For all we know DC's League of Assassins could be very real.....

 

~Rex....it's easy to blend ages if you don't have it locked in ones head that certain ages were certain ways and all was inflexible nor has Ever been repeated.

[Clonus]

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Someday I'll figure out how to do Context quoting.....alright....First shot.....Doc's team didn't kill' date=' at least not on purpose, heh. [/quote']

 

Except for that one time they dropped the guy out of the plane because it was funny. Doc frowned at them over that.

 

 

 

 

Now, let's see if I can get quick reply to co-operate.....Characters from the Image family, that have the types of Origins you posted.....I'll just list one for now....I can expand later....Image is without arguement all Iron Age we can assume.

 

Generally speaking, old origins are never entirely abandoned. The ones I gave were the ones that were popular in the Golden Age whereas radiation exposure, nanites, mutants, and aliens were not so common. Not unknown, mind you, nanites aside, but not common. Whereas in the Silver Age, radiation exposure, being an alien and getting alien junks became real common.

[RexMundi]

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Oh yeah no doubt you're spot on.....My thing, is that the new stuff, really isn't that new. Comics have been around So long now, that basically if it can be done it's been done, but the best stuff, is still the original old school cool. DC was smart enough to figure that out, Marvel's catching up and many smaller companies like Dynamite and Moonstone, are dealing with it heavily, and doing quite well with it.

 

~Rex

[Clonus]

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Oh yeah no doubt you're spot on.....My thing, is that the new stuff, really isn't that new. Comics have been around So long now, that basically if it can be done it's been done, but the best stuff, is still the original old school cool. DC was smart enough to figure that out, Marvel's catching up and many smaller companies like Dynamite and Moonstone, are dealing with it heavily, and doing quite well with it.

 

~Rex

 

The notable features of the modern age are paranoia, heros turning on each other in a serious way and cannibalism. Lots and lots of cannibalism. Also elements of World as Myth, and nostalgia for previous ages.

[Hugh Neilson]

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We're not talking just an exception here and there. Killing in Comics did not go out of favor until the evil Comics Code Authority had their finger in everything' date=' and by then, we were in the Silver Age. Granted, a lot of Direct Gore was never shown, but they more then just implied it. One would never have been able to get away with a comic like Faust back in the late 30's 40's and early 50's, but there were more then just a few Golden Age Characters that wracked up a body count back in the day so to refer to them as an exception, isn't accurate.[/quote']

 

Most GA heroes didn't set out to kill their foes, but they weren't necessarily opposed to it either. I recall a lot of quotes like "saves the state the cost of a trial", and I recall Superman tellling one opponent he'd "get the chair" after Supes turned him in. Remember that capital punishment was much more prevelant in the Golden Age - a Super with qualms against killing as a punishment couldn't really turn his opponents in either. And, of course, the war was on for much of the Golden Age, and killing enemy soldiers was quite acceptable.

 

The heroes believed in the system, so they would not deliberately take justice into their own hands - they would turn the villains over to the "proper authorities". Moving GA to the modern era, the heroes would respect the police and court system, carefully file their taxes to be accurate, with no guesswork and certainly no rounding in their favour, avoid profanity, etc.

 

The biggest mistake people make about the golden age is thinking it was all fluff and lightness. There were LOTS of serious (most of them were)' date=' and very dark characters (most of them were), but the ones most folks seem to remember were the few here and there that stood out. A fairly large amount of Golden Age, is darker then the Bronze, and darker then the Iron Age. It's just that the stories didn't start that way intentionally, they developed, because back then, folks wrote in novelized Arc format, and many of the stories had to actually have a beginning, middle, and an end, and the companies had editors that would enforce things like deadlines and continuity.[/quote']

 

The characters that survived ended up in the Silver Age, which was largely about fluff and lightness, at least on the DC side. A lot of comments on so-called "golden age" characters seem a lot more directed at what they evolved to in the Silver Age.

 

The Golden Age isn't great for team books, though. The team books tended to an opening chapter where the team is together. From there, they split up with each character pursuing a solo story, and regather at the end. Only late in the Golden Age, when the comics were dying out, did books like All-Star Comics have the heroes work in small groups in the middle of the story, and only because the paper shortages and rising costs forced shorter books, not leaving room for each character to have their own section.

[Yansuf]

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His Iron Age rewrites aren't relevant. The Golden Age Spider had this weird flat arrowhead that he'd use to knock guns out of criminal's hands so he was hardly a killer vigilante.

 

I don't know where you get this. Every reprint of the Spider pulps that I have read has him as a killer vigilante.

Unless we are thinking of different characters with the same name?

The Spider, Master of Men. Last year Baen brought out a reprint of some Spider stories in the book: "The Spider and the City of Doom."

Is your spider different?

[kahuna's bro]

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thereis a version of the spider done in comic books reprinted by dc comoics maybe thats the spider he referrs to

[Hugh Neilson]

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I don't know where you get this. Every reprint of the Spider pulps that I have read has him as a killer vigilante.

Unless we are thinking of different characters with the same name?

The Spider, Master of Men. Last year Baen brought out a reprint of some Spider stories in the book: "The Spider and the City of Doom."

Is your spider different?

 

As indicated above, there was a Spider in the pulps who left behind a huge body count. There was also a golden age comic book character called "Alias the Spider" who carried a bow and was a pretty typical golden age character, but was (much) later retconned into a murderer using the golden age mysteryman trope as a disguise. IIRC, somewhere in between he was also used as Green arrow's replacement for the 7 Soldiers of Victory.

[Cassandra]

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The effects on superheroes on society and history who change the way humanity fights war. Let's say that superhumans appeared during World War Two, a result of the Nazi seach for occult and supernatural items, and heroes gaining powers as a result of strange scientific experiments and the mystic forces taking sides. Supersoliders on both sides would battle all across the world. The U.S. would be a battlefield as Axis occult supervillains invaded, only to be driven off by Greek Gods driven from Mount Olympus by the Nazi invasion, Patriotic heroes, and pulp crimefighters who turn they strange powers against the enemies of liberty. Finally D-Day arrives, as the Allied superheroes lead the way, using their unearthly powers to aid in the capture of Berlin and Tokyo, with Hitler committing suicide before capture, and the Emperor of Japan forced to issue the surrender proclamtion.

 

Free societies with a tradiation of superheroes would have more of them, as dictatorhships would fear those with powers who are not loyal to the regime. Law enforcement would work with those who are heroes, who bring the criminals in alive, and protect the innocent. Vigilantes would be hunted by superheroes as well as the police.

 

Superheroes would become a job, with insurance, rules of engagement, and organizations with goals. Supervillains would be syndicates, operating in cities, controlling lower level criminals. Super Agencies would rise, with expensive high technology used to deal with superpowered criminals and terrorist. Major governments would have their own superhero teams. Covert teams of superhumans would exist, with mind control, telepathy, and other exotic powers used to gather intelligence.

 

It could be a world where optimism rules, as while their are different challenges, things work out because of the hard work and dedication of superheroes. Or it could be a world rules by superhuman villains, with non-powered governments keeping a check only with the power of nuclear weapons.

 

The choice is yours

[RexMundi]

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I don't know where you get this. Every reprint of the Spider pulps that I have read has him as a killer vigilante.

Unless we are thinking of different characters with the same name?

The Spider, Master of Men. Last year Baen brought out a reprint of some Spider stories in the book: "The Spider and the City of Doom."

Is your spider different?

 

There is a golden Age Comics Archer/Adventurer type from DC that used the term "The Spider".....he favored the blunt arrow. After the first Crisis they decided to fill in the blanks for what was initially a one shot, then there was the Alias the Spider Stuff, and the Brit Comic Spider that started in Lion and ended up in 200AD ........Anyway, posted all that already all you have to do is scroll back......

 

The Spider, Master of Men though, especially in his current Comic incarnation (Lot of this stuff isn't in reprints, there are comic companies that have specialized in pulp characters for the last decade or so....Moonstone Books for example...to a lesser extent, DC's First Wave, and the Spider Master of Men comic of course by Eclipse and then Moonstone again.....has a body count like the Expendables, heh.....

 

Case in point though, the 90's Run of the Spider Master of men was a great example of taking a pulp and golden age Idea and running with it in modern terms. Similar work has been done with The Shadow by DC, and of course the afore mentioned First Wave, or even the exceptional work, of presenting evolved Golden Age characters in a Modern setting by writers the caliber of Roy Thomas.

 

So it's doable. In fact it's being done on a rather large scale right now from multiple companies, utilizing characters even an old GA comics grognard like myself can barely remember, and even had to dust off the old Encyclopedia of Super Heroes, and Adventure Heroes books just to see if I was remembering correctly that once upon a time there was a Captain Marvel whoose power was anatomical seperation.

 

The trick is not to get brainlocked into Silver Age Camp while thinking Golden Age characters, or the impression that something like the Bat-Man tv show left with a lot of folks (Though if you do it correctly, like in the Brave and the Bold cartoon right now, one can make it work well).....

 

~Rex...re-reading Ed Brubakers Incognito right now, another excellent example of Genre mixing.

[RexMundi]

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As indicated above' date=' there was a Spider in the pulps who left behind a huge body count. There was also a golden age comic book character called "Alias the Spider" who carried a bow and was a pretty typical golden age character, but was (much) later retconned into a murderer using the golden age mysteryman trope as a disguise. IIRC, somewhere in between he was also used as Green arrow's replacement for the 7 Soldiers of Victory.[/quote']

 

That was right after the original Crisis on Infinite Earths and that was the Murderer hiding in Super Heroes clothing until he eliminated all of his competition......Was actually really well done to, but not suprising considering some of the folks that were working on the continuity just after the big tipping of the boat.

 

~Rex....did post all that stuff already...."copies and pastes it on notepad for a quick quote because he gets the feeling, it will be mentioned again, heh.

[kahuna's bro]

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The effects on superheroes on society and history who change the way humanity fights war. Let's say that superhumans appeared during World War Two, a result of the Nazi seach for occult and supernatural items, and heroes gaining powers as a result of strange scientific experiments and the mystic forces taking sides. Supersoliders on both sides would battle all across the world. The U.S. would be a battlefield as Axis occult supervillains invaded, only to be driven off by Greek Gods driven from Mount Olympus by the Nazi invasion, Patriotic heroes, and pulp crimefighters who turn they strange powers against the enemies of liberty. Finally D-Day arrives, as the Allied superheroes lead the way, using their unearthly powers to aid in the capture of Berlin and Tokyo, with Hitler committing suicide before capture, and the Emperor of Japan forced to issue the surrender proclamtion.

 

Free societies with a tradiation of superheroes would have more of them, as dictatorhships would fear those with powers who are not loyal to the regime. Law enforcement would work with those who are heroes, who bring the criminals in alive, and protect the innocent. Vigilantes would be hunted by superheroes as well as the police.

 

Superheroes would become a job, with insurance, rules of engagement, and organizations with goals. Supervillains would be syndicates, operating in cities, controlling lower level criminals. Super Agencies would rise, with expensive high technology used to deal with superpowered criminals and terrorist. Major governments would have their own superhero teams. Covert teams of superhumans would exist, with mind control, telepathy, and other exotic powers used to gather intelligence.

 

It could be a world where optimism rules, as while their are different challenges, things work out because of the hard work and dedication of superheroes. Or it could be a world rules by superhuman villains, with non-powered governments keeping a check only with the power of nuclear weapons.

 

The choice is yours

i'm having problems with the rep butto could someone rep casandra for me thanks

[RexMundi]

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Yeah Cassandra made a good point....someone toss more Rep that way please......

 

~Rex

[Hermit]

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Got her for you guys

[RexMundi]

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Thanks Hermit.....just goes to show you being on the Ted Kord side of the Blue Beetle Camps means that you can be relied upon to handle anything short of escaping from death itself.

 

~Rex

[Hermit]

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Thanks Hermit.....just goes to show you being on the Ted Kord side of the Blue Beetle Camps means that you can be relied upon to handle anything short of escaping from death itself.

 

~Rex

 

Bullets and forced storylines are my main two weaknesses *nod*

 

That said, I like Jaime too. I just don't see why we can't have both