Do you need Personal Immunity or just Selective Targeting?

[TranquiloUno]

PC has a Darkness, No Range. Do they need Personal Immunity AND Selective Targeting to exempt themselves from the effect? Or would Selective Targeting by itself be enough?

 

 

[dsatow]

I didn't think you could do selective targeting with darkness' area of effect as it does not use the area of effect advantage.

 

[TranquiloUno]

5e specifies you can take Selective Targeting on Darkness without taking AoE. p250

It's in Hero Designer that way as well as Selective Target..

[dsatow]

21 minutes ago, TranquiloUno said:

5e specifies you can take Selective Targeting on Darkness without taking AoE.

It's in Hero Designer that way as well as Selective Target. P250.

 

OK, 6e does not let you take selective on darkness.  

 

Since you probably won't get an answer by Steve for 5th ed questions, lets take this logically.

 

Personal Immunity says you and those with like immunity can not be affected by a power.  End of Story.

Selective Targeting lets you choose which targets within an area of effect will be affected by the power.

 

If you are just trying to avoid being encompassed by your area of effect, either power works for you.

If say the area of effect is also sticky, the Selective Targeting will prevent you from being initially targeted but will not prevent the area of effect from being forced on you by someone it is stuck to.  Personal immunity means you will never be affected by the power.

 

Thus if the power has selective targeting and is somehow reflected back on the user, the power will affect them.

 

Example:

Donnie Darko has a magical spell which blinds anyone he targets within a 5" radius.  Mirrorcaster can reflect powers directed at him to other people(reflection).  When Donnie Darko casts his spell, the GM rules Mirrorcaster can reflect the spell back at Donnie Darko who is also in the area of effect.  If Mirrorcatser hits, he too will be blinded.

 

As always, this is my two bits.  Other people may have different interpretations.

 

[Lucius]

2 hours ago, TranquiloUno said:

PC has a Darkness, No Range. Do they need Personal Immunity AND Selective Targeting to exempt themselves from the effect? Or would Selective Targeting by itself be enough?

 

 

 

I'm not sure why you think you'd need both.

 

With Personal Immunity, you're immune. The Power cannot effect you even if Reflected, etc. Only you are protected.

 

With Selective Targeting you can elect not to target some people who would otherwise be in the Area, including yourself. You can thus avoid targeting allies. But you are subject to the power if it is for example Reflected.

 

Lucius Alexander

 

Palindromedary Immunity

[薔薇語]

Selective would only be helpful, as lucius points out, if you also wanted to not targrt other, non-self, characters (Allies, for example).

 

If you have that goal (to not taget allies), go ahead and use ONLY selective and never target yourself. 

 

La Rose. 

[Duke Bushido]

2 hours ago, dsatow said:

 

 

If you are just trying to avoid being encompassed by your area of effect, either power works for you.

If say the area of effect is also sticky, the Selective Targeting will prevent you from being initially targeted but will not prevent the area of effect from being forced on you by someone it is stuck to. 

 

 

Hey, thanks!

 

I'm not the guy with the question, but thanks, because honestly, in all these years, I had never really stopped to think about it in quite that way before.

 

Well done!
 

[Ninja-Bear]

I would go with Personal Immunity. 

[TranquiloUno]

Thanks, everybody! I think Selective Targeting will work fine in this case. Odds of a power-reflector showing up are low. Although I am the GM, so....  ;D

[Tech]

If you are wanting yourself and possibly other friends to not be affected, Selective Targeting is your choice. If you only want yourself to not be affected, Personal Immunity is your friend.