Hugh Neilson

(Rosetta.
Who are you talking about ?
Sweet Loretta Fart. She thought she was a cleaner
Sweet Rosetta Martin
But she was a frying pan, yeah
Rosetta
The picker ! The picker ! Picture the fingers burning !
Oo-wee !
OK ?
1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4)

Jo Jo was a man who thought he was a loner
But he knew it couldn't last
Jo Jo left his home in Tucson, Arizona
For some California grass

Get back, get back
Get back to where you once belonged
Get back, get back
Get back to where you once belonged
Get back Jo Jo
Go home

Get back, get back
Get back to where you once belonged
Get back, get back
Back to where you once belonged
Get back, Jo

Sweet Loretta Martin thought she was a woman
But she was another man
All the girls around her say she's got it coming
But she gets it while she can

Oh, get back, get back
Get back to where you once belonged
Get back, get back
Get back to where you once belonged
Get back, Loretta

Go home
Oh, get back, get back
Get back to where you once belonged
Get back, get back
Get back to where you once belonged

Get back
Woo...

(Thanks, Mo !
I'd like to say "thank you" on behalf of the group
And ourselves and I hope we passed the audition !)  

Wednesday morning at five o'clock as the day begins
Silently closing her bedroom door
Leaving the note that she hoped would say more
She goes downstairs to the kitchen clutching her handkerchief
Quietly turning the backdoor key
Stepping outside she is free
 
She (We gave her most of our lives)
Is leaving (Sacrificed most of our lives)
Home (We gave her everything money could buy)
She's leaving home after living alone
For so many years (Bye bye)
 
Father snores as his wife gets into her dressing gown
Picks up the letter that's lying there
Standing alone at the top of the stairs
She breaks down and cries to her husband "Daddy our baby's gone
Why would she treat us so thoughtlessly ?
How could she do this to me ?"
 
She (We never thought of ourselves)
Is leaving (Never a thought for ourselves)
Home (We struggled hard all our lives to get by)
She's leaving home after living alone
For so many years (Bye bye)
 
Friday morning at nine o'clock she is far away
Waiting to keep the appointment she made
Meeting a man from the motor trade
 
She (What did we do that was wrong)
Is having (We didn't know it was wrong)
Fun (Fun is the one thing that money can't buy)
Something inside that was always denied
For so many years (Bye bye)
 
She's leaving home
Bye bye

I like bread and butter,
I like toast and jam,
That's what my baby feeds me,
I'm her loving man.
 
He likes bread and butter,
He likes toast and jam,
That's what his baby feeds him,
He's her loving man.
 
She don't cook mashed potatoes,
She don't cook T-bone steaks,
Don't feed me peanut butter,
She knows that I can't take.
 
He likes bread and butter,
He likes toast and jam,
That's what his baby feeds him,
He's her loving man.
 
Got home early one morning,
Much to my surprise,
She was eating chicken and dumplings
With some other guy.
 
No more bread and butter,
No more toast and jam,
I found my baby eating
With some other man.

Imagine me and you, I do
I think about you day and night
It's only right
To think about the girl you love
And hold her tight
So happy together

If I should call you up, invest a dime
And you say you belong to me
And ease my mind
Imagine how the world could be
So very fine
So happy together

I can't see me loving nobody but you for all my life
When you're with me, baby, the skies will be blue for all my life

Me and you and you and me
No matter how they tossed the dice
It had to be
The only one for me is you
And you for me
So happy together

I can't see me loving nobody but you for all my life
When you're with me, baby, the skies will be blue for all my life

Me and you and you and me
No matter how they tossed the dice
It had to be
The only one for me is you
And you for me
So happy together

Me and you and you and me
No matter how they tossed the dice
It had to be
The only one for me is you
And you for me
So happy together
So happy together
How is the weather?
So happy together
We're happy together
So happy together
We're happy together
So happy together
So happy together  

Hello Muddah, hello Fadduh
Here I am at Camp Granada
Camp is very entertaining
And they say we'll have some fun if it stops raining
 
I went hiking with Joe Spivy
He developed poison ivy
You remember Leonard Skinner
He got ptomaine poisoning last night after dinner
 
All the counselors hate the waiters
And the lake has alligators
And the head coach wants no sissies
So he reads to us from something called Ulysses
 
Now I don't want this should scare ya
But my bunkmate has malaria
You remember Jeffrey Hardy
They're about to organize a searching party
 
Take me home, oh Muddah, Fadduh
Take me home, I hate Granada
Don't leave me out in the forest where
I might get eaten by a bear
Take me home, I promise I will not make noise
Or mess the house with other boys
Oh please don't make me stay
I've been here one whole day
 
Dearest Fadduh, darling Muddah
How's my precious little Bruddah ?
Let me come home if ya miss me
I would even let Aunt Bertha hug and kiss me
 
Wait a minute, it stopped hailing
Guys are swimming, guys are sailing
Playing baseball, gee, that's better
Muddah, Fadduh kindly disregard this letter

Please lock me away
And don't allow the day
Here inside, where I hide with my loneliness
I don't care what they say
I won't stay in a world without love

Birds sing out of tune
And rain clouds hide the moon
I'm okay, here I'll stay with my loneliness
I don't care what they say
I won't stay in a world without love

So I wait and in a while
I will see my true love smile
She may come, I know not when
When she does, I'll lose
So baby until then

Lock me away
And don't allow the day
Here inside, where I hide with my loneliness
I don't care what they say
I won't stay in a world without love

So I wait and in a while
I will see my true love smile
She may come, I know not when
When she does, I'll know
So baby until then

Lock me away
And don't allow the day
Here inside, where I hide with my loneliness
I don't care what they say
I won't stay in a world without love

I don't care what they say
I won't stay in a world without love  

Well, I said friend
Don't take her she's all I've got
Please don't take her love away from me
I'm beggin' you friend
Don't take her she's all I've got
She's everything in life I'll ever need.

She is life when I want to live
She's everything to me in life that life can give
She's my water when I need a drink
She's the first thought in my mind
Each time I try to think.

Let me tell you now friend
Don't take her she's all I've got
Please don't take her love away from me
I'm beggin' you friend
Don't take her she's all I've got
She's everything in life I'll ever need.

She's my fingers when I want to feel
She's the only thing in life to me that's really real
She is love she's all the love I know
She could kiss the ground in wintertime
And make a flower grow.

Let me tell you now friend
Don't take her she's all I've got
Please don't take her love away from me
I'm beggin' you friend
Don't take her she's all I've got
She's everything in life I'll ever need.

Let me tell you now friend
Don't take her she's all I've got
Well, I said friend
Don't take her she's all I've got
I'm beggin' you friend
Don't take her she's all I've got...

I woke up in a strange room
I'd never seen before
Weird paintings on the walls, mirrors on the ceilings
I bolted for the door
 
Looking for my Rent-a-car
Was the Cordoba blue or red?
Trying to remember where I put the keys
Trying to remember what I said
 
I pushed the fool button
My night went haywire
I pushed the full button
Set my brain on fire
 
I was sitting in the corner
Of a very laid back bar
A little three-piece band was playing on the stand
Not knowing what lay in store
 
In a flash, a man with a hat
And a harmonica stormed the stage
The crowd berserk, the band said, "What a jerk!"
As he went into a blues rampage
 
It was a fool palace
Double knit on parade
They pushed the fool button
As the skinny boy played and played
 
Push it
Push it
Push it!
 
Trying to make a point of protecting the innocent
But none of them can be found
It can happen any time, happen any place
It can happen in your own home town
 
So if you don't believe my words
Or think my story is true
Get a bottle of rum and an eskatrol
And watch the same thing happen to you
 
We'll push the fool button
I'll meet you in the bar
We'll push the fool button
Where everyone's a star

Christmastime is here, by golly
Disapproval would be folly
Deck the halls with hunks of holly
Fill the cup, and don't say when
 
Kill the turkeys, ducks, and chickens
Mix the punch, drag out the Dickens
Even though the prospect sickens
Brother, here we go again
 
On Christmas day, you can't get sore
Your fellow man you must adore
There's time to rob him all the more
The other three hundred and sixty-four
 
Relations sparing no expense'll
Send some useless old utensil
Or a matching pen and pencil
Just the thing I need, how nice
 
It doesn't matter how sincere it
Is, or how heartfelt the spirit
Sentiment will not endear it
What's important is the price
 
Hark the Herald-Tribune sings
Advertising wondrous things
 
God rest ye merry merchants
May ye make the yuletide pay
 
Angels we have heard on high
Tell us to go out and buy
 
So, let the raucous sleigh bells jingle
Hail our dear old friend, Kris Kringle
Driving his reindeer across the sky
Don't stand underneath when they fly by

The biggest post count gets to have THE BIGGEST POST COUNT - what more could you possibly aspire to?

Hidden in the mountains
Under the earth and stone
A cubic mile of perfection
A treasure no one has known
One man came upon this mother load
Built himself a thousand room chateau
 
He's the emperor of diamonds 
Master of the prize
He's got a hold on happiness
And all that money can buy
Everyday he lives in fascination
This is not an everyday temptation
 
No, it's a diamond as big as the Ritz
What you gonna do with this, tell me
Who's gonna save you when your a slave to
The diamond as big as the Ritz
 
A blessing can become a curse
If you keep it to yourself
Your own exaggeration
Is not so good for your health
It's the prophecy of the unattainable dream
If you take one look behind the shine
It doesn't always gleam
 
Everyday he lives in fascination
This is not an everyday temptation
 
It was a diamond as big as the Ritz
What you gonna do with this
Who's gonna save you when your a slave to
The diamond as big as the Ritz
 
Coal under pressure
Sparkle of treasure
Crystalline measure
Ornamental pleasure
In the corner of your eye
Make a grown man cry
All the seeds you've sown
 
Greed can crumble your castle walls
Greed can purchase you thrills
Power is a dangerous thing
It can maim it can kill
It's the prophecy of the unattainable dream
If you take one look behind the shine
It doesn't always gleam
 
It was a diamond as big as the Ritz
What you gonna do with this
Who's gonna save you when your a slave to
The diamond as big as the Ritz

Island
I see you in the distance
I feel that your existence
Is not unlike my own
 
Island
They say no man is like you
They say you stand alone
Sometimes I feel that way, too
 
It's the need for love
Heart and soul accompaniment
Seems to make me different from you
 
Well, I've tried to book passage
But you have no ports
And I've tried to sail in, but your wind and waters
Tore my sails and broke my oars
 
Island
I see you in the moonlight
Silhouettes of ships in the night
Just make me want that much more
 
Island
I see you in all of my dreams
Maybe someday I'll have the means
To reach your distant shore
 
When the need for love
Heart and soul accompaniment
No longer males me different from you
 
Well I've tried to build bridges
But they all fell down
And I've taken to the air on wings of silver
But I always hit the ground
 
Well, I've tried to book passage
But you have no ports
And I've tried to sail in, but your wind and waters
Tore my sails and broke my oars
  Island
I see you in the moonlight
Silhouettes of ships in the night
Just make me want that much more

Audie Murphy was one of the most decorated soldiers of WW II, winning every award the American military had to offer, plus decorations from France and Belgium. His nearly-superhuman feats of valor were legendary. He appeared in 44 films over 21 years, and died in 1971. Try asking people you meet if they ever heard of him.

Yup! SOTI isn't the cutoff I use - for my purposes, it's when All-Star Comics becomes a western.

Cool! Any chance of a glimpse of an occultist named John Fulton who's kind of sleazy but too damn smart? Or other master villains before they became master villains?
 
Dean Shomshak

Gladiator and Hyperion are both deliberate clones of Superman (Superboy for Gladiator), in that the Squadron Supreme was a riff on the JLA and the Imperial Guard was a riff on the Legion of Super-Heroes. Further development allowed them to diverge, but that was the original plan (Squadron intentionally so, in that JLA featured a team modeled after some Avengers of the day).
 
At least they were all different enough to be an homage rather than a copyright lawsuit.
 
As for Captain Marvel being the MCU Superman, I take that to mean "very powerful, highly moral and well liked by the general public".
 
If we want to use Gladiator or Hyperion for that, they probably need to have been on Earth for a while (maybe rocketed there as an infant), have a reason not to go home (maybe their planet of origin suffered some catastrophe) and have a reason to follow Earth's moral codes (like being raised by morally upright earth people). That's definitely getting into lawsuit territory...

Gladiator and Hyperion are both deliberate clones of Superman (Superboy for Gladiator), in that the Squadron Supreme was a riff on the JLA and the Imperial Guard was a riff on the Legion of Super-Heroes. Further development allowed them to diverge, but that was the original plan (Squadron intentionally so, in that JLA featured a team modeled after some Avengers of the day).
 
At least they were all different enough to be an homage rather than a copyright lawsuit.
 
As for Captain Marvel being the MCU Superman, I take that to mean "very powerful, highly moral and well liked by the general public".
 
If we want to use Gladiator or Hyperion for that, they probably need to have been on Earth for a while (maybe rocketed there as an infant), have a reason not to go home (maybe their planet of origin suffered some catastrophe) and have a reason to follow Earth's moral codes (like being raised by morally upright earth people). That's definitely getting into lawsuit territory...

Gladiator and Hyperion are both deliberate clones of Superman (Superboy for Gladiator), in that the Squadron Supreme was a riff on the JLA and the Imperial Guard was a riff on the Legion of Super-Heroes. Further development allowed them to diverge, but that was the original plan (Squadron intentionally so, in that JLA featured a team modeled after some Avengers of the day).
 
At least they were all different enough to be an homage rather than a copyright lawsuit.
 
As for Captain Marvel being the MCU Superman, I take that to mean "very powerful, highly moral and well liked by the general public".
 
If we want to use Gladiator or Hyperion for that, they probably need to have been on Earth for a while (maybe rocketed there as an infant), have a reason not to go home (maybe their planet of origin suffered some catastrophe) and have a reason to follow Earth's moral codes (like being raised by morally upright earth people). That's definitely getting into lawsuit territory...

You mean like writing in the relationship after Magneto had been powermad for himself since appearing in X-Men #1? I think his history with Xavier was written in at a time not far off the backstory being added to Xavier and Magneto (and Magneto's WW II involvement was added about the same time a lot of other characters' was being removed - but he has the de-aging in Defenders and revival in X-Men 104 as a moving target for his physical age). And the prior relationship was only added in the 50's/60's Superboy stories, not the early Luthor appearances.

And those fans can keep reading the comics and ignore the movies. All that continuity is still there (although, as noted above, some is drifting to the movie continuity). There have been choices I liked, and choices I didn't, in the MCU, but overall, no one has come close to being this close to the comics. I wasn't that thrilled with Iron Man. I just about fell off my chair when Hulk answered "Hulk Smash!" on screen (a talking Hulk - never saw THAT on the TV show!). Thor wasn't great. Iron Man II wasn't a classic comic book simulation. Captain America - hmm...that was pretty good, and a lot closer.
 
And those were all on DVD. My son had decided he wanted to the The Avengers (before it came out), so we got caught up on all the movies already released. And guess what? The Avengers worked. There were some choices in there too (a million aliens so it looks like a video game with minions and the occasional Big Boss). But, overall, it worked. It probably would have worked even better, for me, had I not read 40 years of continuity.
 
For my son, 10 years old at the time? "That was AWESOME!" He wasn't burdened with 40 years of continuity. And as I think of it, when I was his age and started reading a lot of comics, neither was I. And those comics? They were AWESOME!

I guess before we explain LMDs, we'd better explain how Cap was thawed out at different times in the two timelines. The start point for the Modern Marvel Timeline is the FF rocket flight (which is not even in the MCU). All else is history. WW II was as many years ago as it had to be for Cap to have been thawed out recently enough that Tony Stark, Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne were there as Avengers, and are of their present age in 2016. That was the mid-1960's when Avengers #4 was published. For Tony and Hank to have completed PhDs and been active as Supers for a bit, since they are not now in their 70s, the dates have moved forward.
 
How does it follow that "pretty amazing prototypes" in WW II means LMDs "must have" been in development before 2016? We don't even know their official date of development in 616 continuity - it's never been a plot point (or maybe I missed it?). Maybe Dr. Doom 2099 developed them, used his ancestral time machine to drop the plans on some SHIELD techie's desk in 1956 so he could develop them in 1965, and they all have a back door in their programming for Doom to exploit. The origins of LMDs have never been explored in 616 continuity, have they?
 
If we had LMD tech back in the mid-1960s in 616, how come no one developed repulsor tech until Tony came along (a moving target in time), unstable molecules waited for Reed Richards to come along (that keeps getting further ahead of WW II as well), gamma bombs were left undiscovered until Banner came along and those particles waited unknown until Pym discovered them? How did Dum Dum Dugan live through WW II without Sergeant Nick Fury there to save his life numerous times, like he did in 616? With no FF, why hasn't the MCU been eaten by Galactus? Why, with no FF, there was no rescued Sub-Mariner to fly off the handle and throw Steve's iceberg into warmer waters - he should still be frozen in there.
 
The movies and TV shows take their inspiration from the comics. They are not bound to identical continuity. The comics change their own continuity all the time anyway. There are plenty of divergences of at least equal significance to the timing of LMD development between the comics and the movies.

First, LMDs were probably not invented in 1965 if I read an earth 616 comic written in 2016, as the "start point" of the MU (generally accepted as the FF space flight) is a moving target, I think about 10 years back from "today". So despite comics where Ben Grimm meets the Beatles and Jimmy Carter, he did not, in present continuity, Ben and Reed no longer served in WW II and Tony Stark was not injured in Viet Nam. LMDs probably moved up several decades as well.
 
Second, why do the movies have to explain the difference? Why isn't the writer/editor group of Marvel 616 charged with explaining how LMDs were developed in their continuity. You are seeing how they developed in MCU one week at a time - they are providing their backstory for LMDs.

When I wake up early in the morning
Lift my head, I'm still yawning
When I'm in the middle of a dream
Stay in bed, float up stream (Float up stream)
 
Please, don't wake me, no, don't shake me
Leave me where I am, I'm only sleeping
 
Everybody seems to think I'm lazy
I don't mind, I think they're crazy
Running everywhere at such a speed
Till they find there's no need (There's no need)
 
Please, don't spoil my day, I'm miles away
And after all I'm only sleeping
 
Keeping an eye on the world going by my window
Taking my time
 
Lying there and staring at the ceiling
Waiting for a sleepy feeling...
 
Please, don't spoil my day, I'm miles away
And after all I'm only sleeping
 
Ooh yeah
 
Keeping an eye on the world going by my window
Taking my time
 
When I wake up early in the morning
Lift my head, I'm still yawning
When I'm in the middle of a dream
Stay in bed, float up stream (Float up stream)
 
Please, don't wake me, no, don't shake me
Leave me where I am, I'm only sleeping

My point wasn't that most of the stuff was average, but rather that the number of gems were roughly equal to the truly horrible stuff (at least in my non-scientific opinion based on that re-reading). 
 
If I say you're being "mean" with your comment on averages, I hope you'll take that as the pun it is, and in no way an actual criticism.
 
As to the City Stealers story being a Herc tall tale, yeah, good retcon, but that's not how it was originally presented.  (Which is why I assume you put "revealed" in quotes.)  On its own, that story is absolutely facepalm worthy.

The superhero genre is unique in having assimilated elements of all those other genres, allowing it to be incredibly broad in the kind of stories it can deal with. You can find some of that range even in a single comic series.