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Zslane, that was brilliant and thank you.

who did they give the shield too? I have heard complaints that the new Cap in the comics is to skinny, well along with being gay AND having the stupid mohawk, but I am old so, ya know...

As a person who does taxes for a living and deals with people who THINK they know how it works, I approve this comic.

Yeah, and I think all three were included in the final product we saw in theaters.

In a lot of ways, and explained above by others, probably better, I would say Whedon was in the impossible situation. Tasked with refilming parts of a movie set in a tone he would never have used and told to lighten it up without actually losing that tone. The actors were in a tough situation as they were being told that the story was changing but staying the same.

The more I read the article on Terrio, the more I felt that he and Zack on same page and the descriptions he was giving, whether required by suits or not, that they did not understand Superman and still wanted to create a darker version of him worshipped by people, not inspired by. Perhaps I am wrong. I also go back to the 2 of them trying to create movies that would not fit timewise in what a studio wanted as a released movie. He can complain all he and Zack and Ray want about how much was butchered out of the JL movie, but again, you gave them a 3 1/2 to 4 hour movie. It has been mentioned multiple times how much JL would have been helped by solo movies for Cyborg (especially since you apparently wanted to feature him) and Flash. Has anyone seen this other version of BVS, does the motivations for any of the characters make more sense or is Batman still stupid enough to fall for an obvious plot of Lex's (not that he knows its Lex).

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During season 3 or so, they had a real life relationship. After they broke up combined with him blocking her pay requests there was apparently a huge animosity between the 2. It was actually a credit to their acting ability that most fans never realized.

Also, the clear change of what the movie was about affected him too, being that apparently Snyder actually planned to make the movie about Cyborg as the central character, or so says Fisher. Whedon was trying to turn it into a funner ensemble piece. All these comments on Whedon (and note, he keeps being called abusive, but not in the Me Too style, though maybe there are those too) makes me wonder how any of these people would have dealt with some of the iron fisted directors of yore. Or, as mentioned in another thread, working with an actor like Danny Kaye, etc. I sort of wish there was more detail, as in what type of stuff. But then, I also lost a lot of respect for Nathon Fillon after his breakup with Katic and he basically was trying to black ball her when she was requesting equal or at least close to pay on Castle. Never meet your heroes, even the geek ones.

MLBNOW did a whole thing on this. The only person "punished" for this was Castellanos, who may have done the least and was the only person who took damage from it, since he was the player hit by the pitch. I think the backlash that has happened amongst fans for their handling of the suspensions will tell, as he is challenging the suspension, I wonder if it will be lifted when they look back.

Well, part of it was because the pitcher hit him, which is what put him on base, so kind of rubbing it in the pitchers face. He actually started walking away after saying something to pitcher, but Yadier ran in and jumped in his face which really started the benches clearing.

I went at the point that first he avoided sinking any of the ships or damaging the bridge when entering San Francisco and also when he shared the look with Brody.

I take this with a grain of salt, but my sister in law said that F/WS was very dark, in tone, not necessarily in appearance. But she tends to find things dark that I do not. I really want to try to watch all these series, especially as Wandavision seems to be a lead in to SpiderMan and Doctor Strange's movies.

My brother was laughing at them putting basically every SEC team in and all of them being knocked out before the 16. No bias in selection committee there.

WELL, don't leave us hanging, like clothes on a line. Give us the straight poop.

The skulls are all grinning.

yay, games haven't started, I think, we're still tied for first and in the playoff hunt.

What they seemed to be setting up for a sequel was him also becoming an ambassador to the air breathing part, something they did in the comics. And also, creating a group using the professor and of course Manta as the start to try to create a war from the other side, IE the air breather side.

Yes, but that Sam/Golem tragic "made for Hallmark" romance really seemed forced, though it did prelude the, apparent now, trend of EVERY media must have gay characters.

So does Vin Diesel, and from what I heard, anyone who does a movie with him. One of the things I like about Vin, but their are multiple. Loved that he embraced doing Groot because it was right after Paul Walker's death, a person he considered like a brother and he liked having a part he didn't have to memorize a lot of lines or appear on screen.

I agree, Steppenwolf isn't, but even in the original movie, it was clear that Steppenwolf was an Underling doing the bidding of someone else (Darkseid). My comparison isn't that he and Loki are the same, but that both, in effect, prelude a truly big dangerous villain that could be beyond the heroes ability to deal with. For all intents, though not the same, Darkseid IS Thanos in this vein. A truly Cosmic villain that will take EVERYONE to beat. When I say it should be compared to the first Avengers, I meant it more as, this is introducing the concept and showing the heroes as a team. By IW, the heroes, although having their problems with each other, could work together as a team to fight a cosmic villain, and it still took 2 movies to pull it off. If defeating Darkseid's minion takes a 4 hour movie (granted apparently 2 hours of that was making up for lost time introducing characters we should already know), then what will it take if they do a movie of Darkseid's invasion, especially as we will probably need part of that to introduce the New Gods. Again, I haven't seen it. Wish I could but streaming service is hard with my setup, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I am glad you guys liked it, I just feel, with the conversations, that DC again is trying to "catch up" to marvel by doing their first big teamup as the equivalent of IW and End Game.

I would have used Wonder Woman's movie for this. I mentioned before, you could have done the first WW movie with it starting with Bruce and Diana on his jet and her telling her story - flashback to the movie. Then at some opportune point, have Bruce ask a question and you see one of the other 3 sitting there with them with a brief flash of them bringing them on, then back to the story rinse and repeat, so that by the end of WW, all 5 are sitting in the jet heading back to new york.

The problem I have, and I haven't seen it, is you are comparing it to the 3rd Avengers movie, not the first. Watching it, is there anyway you think he could have pulled it off in 2 hours, which is what the first Avengers movie was. This wasn't Darkseid, though he makes an appearance, this was Loki working for Darkseid. But then, Loki had already had a story arc in the first Thor movie. I realize that the Whedon one, apparently, had more reshoots then originally thought, but he was still limited to the story that Snyder had done. And Snyder coming back and doing a 2 part movie, that WB would NEVER have agreed to put out and saying "See how much I could have done" is stupid. He would have been forced to put it out as 1 movie in 2 hours. Now, edit that one down to that, then compare it to the first Avengers and we can argue, but again, the MCU had already done IM, Thor, CA:TFA and introduced EVERY hero in the movie in some way or another, a point others have made. I guess my only new point is the original, that this should have been the equivalent of the first one. I mean, if dealing with Steppenwolf took 4 hours, are we looking at a trilogy to deal with Darkseid?

If they keep their masks on, how will they drink too much beer?

Ah, the next DC villain has shown up - Starro.