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[Guest Witch Doctor]

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I'm creating a character named "La Contessa de la Escarlata Mannana" (ie. "the Countess of the Scarlet Morning"). She's a Spanish superheroine rather like Batman only her schticks are swordplay and sorcerery (traditional Spanish fencing had a great deal of mysticism in it).

 

Then there's "Boom Boom" the kid superpatriot of Palestine

[Maelstrom]

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Other possible Australians...

 

Ayers Rock(huge brick) or Uluru if you want to be more PC.

 

Outback... I have no idea of powers dessicating heat, moderate level brick?

 

 

Dreamtime, a mental illusionist/martial artist, for Australia.

Cymru, the Red Dragon, for Wales

A robotic superteam for Britain called the Disraeli Gears (Fab!)

North Star for Canada

El Technico for Mexico

A duo for Scotland called "Hammer" and "Scourge"

For France, the "Internationale"

For Germany, the Blackforesthunden-den-den (ist)

[Mutant for Hire]

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I'll point out that some of these rules can also apply to national supervillains as well. Sometimes you can even have popular supervillains that way. National supervillains can have a list of motivations:

 

a) national vices, unattractive and attractive

Nations often have reputations for being prone to certain vices. A German supervillain who played into the autocratic/dictatorial mode would be an example.

 

However sometimes these villains can be attractive. Someone named Reynard would be more likely to be a supervillain than a superhero. On the other hand, Reynard could be a very popular supervillain. A handsome, charming, charismatic thief with a sense of spectacle, and with a fox motif, much as Catwoman has her feline motif. He might even make his living stealing French works of art outside of France, which would make him seem all the more a hero to the locals.

 

someone trying to roll back the clock

An interesting supervillain for France would be a man who styles himself "the Sun King" and wishes to restore a monarchy to France and to usher in a new golden age. In fact he too might have a high level of popularity because he's a very honorable and virtuous supervillain, who despite having tried to overthrow the government more than once has always taken especial care not to have civilian bystanders hurt. He might even have opposed more bloodier supervillains causing trouble in France, such as Eurostar.

 

c) politically unpopular causes and minority groups

In Canada, the southern United States and Texas () you might have villains who want to force political separatism.

 

Likewise in colonized countries one would expect supervillains who wish to drive out the colonials and reclaim their land. Or to create their own politically autonomous region.

 

d) historical monsters and villains

This category is extremely obvious and probably doesn't need much in the way of examples. Mythological monsters from Native American cultures, for example, as well as things like demons, evil faeries and so on. The KKK is quite honestly a perfect example as well, sad to say.

 

e) overzealous patriots with a very narrowminded view

See the patriot category for concepts, and then add a very bad attitude.

[MelbourneMewMew]

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I see that someone else had the same idea as me for a French trio of superheroes (I was going to collectively call them "Tricolore")

 

I made an SAS character called Oceania, an aquatic heroine and defender of several small Pacific island nations.

 

One idea that's stuck in my mind recently is a team of power-armor villains called the New Kelly Gang, all named after famous Australian bushrangers (real or fictional). Members I've thought of are:

- Ned Kelly (leader)

- Mad Dan

- Moonlite

- Thunderbolt

- the Wild Colonial Boy

 

(Come to think of it, with our 19th-century boshrangers calling themselves things like "Captain Moonlite" and "Captain Thunderbolt", maybe they did have superheroic delusions...)

 

Another factor to consider is what are the heroic ideals of the country the hero represents? Some countries could even be considered somewat "herophobic", as Christopher Vogler, in "The Writer's Journey" says about Australia and Germany:

 

"The Austalians distrust appeals to heroic virtue because such concepts have been used to lure generations of young Australian males into fighting Britain's battles. Australians have their heroes, of course, but they tend to be unassuming and self-effacing, and will remain reluctant for much longer than heroes in other cultures - they may never be entirely comfortable with the hero mantle. In Australian culture it's unseemly to seek out leadership or the limelight, and anyone who does so is a "tall poppy", quickly cut down. The most admirable hero is one who denies his heroic role as long as possible and who, like Mad Max, avoids accepting responsibility for anyone but himself.

 

"German culture seems ambivalent about the therm 'hero'. The hero has a long tradition of veneration in Germany, but two world wars and the legacy of Hitler and the Nazis have tainted the concept. Nazism and German militarism manipulated and distorted the powerful symbols of the hero myth, invoking its passions to enslave, dehumanise and destroy. Like any archetypal system, like any philosophy or creed, the heroic form can be warped and used with great effect or ill intention.

 

"In the post-Hitler period, the idea of the hero has been given a rest as the culture re-evaluates itself. Dispassionate, cold-blooded anti-heroes are more in keeping with the current German spirit. Germans can enjoy imaginative hero tales from other cultures but don't seem comfortable with home-grown romantic heroes for the time being."

[PhantomGM2602]

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here's my take on this;

The Pendragon[uK]

Le Mustketer[France]

Commandant Rus[Russia of course]

Solar Samurai[Japan]

Dragon Commander[China]

Comander Oceanous[Aus]

[SleepyDrug]

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It's a call for the super lists page

 

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dungeon/2864/Super_Lists.html

[st barbara]

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Of all the international super heros that I have created (I dont necessarily PLAY them, but I do like creating them !) the ones of which I am most fond are my Scandanavian team "The Vikings". Now I am not from Scandanavia so I will apologise in advance if I offend any Scandanavian sensibilities but these characters are. "Bifrost"(Sweden) has the power to make light solid, flies. "The Troll"(Her husband-also from Sweden) shape changes to large powerful monster. "Northern Star"(Norway) (Yes I know that I stole the name from "Champions Universe") the prototypical flying energy projector and team leader. "Snowbear"(How could I resist-also from Norway) a were Polar Bear. "The Rune Lord"(Finland) Elemental and Runic magic and "The Rose Elf"(Denmark) a very capable illusionist (Images rather thab mental illusions). Now I realise that having a character with the ability to solidify light and someone who uses Images is cheating a bit but hey I MEANT them to be a formidable team !

[Maelstrom]

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e) overzealous patriots with a very narrowminded view

See the patriot category for concepts, and then add a very bad attitude.

 

In my campaign, these all work for the US gov't.

[Trencher]

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my Scandanavian team "The Vikings". Now I am not from Scandanavia so I will apologise in advance if I offend any Scandanavian sensibilities

 

Looks cool!

No sensebilities offended.

Do you have a website or some images or something?

[zornwil]

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Red Amazon (which I just mentioned moments ago was based on Bob Burden's "Red Dyke") was the USSR's iconic heroine. She uses a hammer and sickle in combat (more often the hammer though), can fly, wears red naturally. She's a staunch believer in the "dictatorship of the proletariat" and a believe in the future of the Russians, although she wasn't/isn't prejudiced against those in the former USSR. She's a noble warrior, much like Captain America, with a highly developed set of combat and personal ethics. Unfortunately for her, political changes in Russia have made her an outcast.

 

China Left is similarly the great national Chinese heroine, but more of a mystic martial arts type with nunchukas. Very honorable as well, but taciturn whereas Red Amazon is boisterous. Like more contemporary takes on Captain America, she has questioned her government's actions, in particular taking exception to the brutal suppression of the students in Tiananman (sp) Square.

 

I always had this pan-Slavic iconic hero called simply the Slav, but never developed him to the degree deserved.

[st barbara]

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To "Trencher"sorry No. Or rather only in my mind's eye. I imagine "Bifrost"as being tall, blonde , blue eyed and one of the most beautiful women in the world (She is a professional model as well as being a super), "Northern Star"as being shorter (about 5ft 6"as opposed to "Bifrost's"6ft) with short curly blonde hair and "The Rose Elf" who is only supposed to be about 15 years old as being the smallest of the three (5ft 4") with brown hair in a ponytail. In game terms "Bifrost"has a "Comliness"stat of 33 ! As a contrast, when her husband is in his "Troll"form he has a comliness of 6. I imagine them having a good private joke by going for walks together in costume/character !

[st barbara]

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Hmm . Sometimes you have to be careful creating "heros"in nations or ethnic groups that are not popular. I recently added a Palestinian super to my list. She is called "The Imp"(I don't know what that might be in Arabic, so I used English). Her super power is the ability to transform anymaterial to any other material. I imagine her as not at all political, but protective of the ordinary Palistinian population and that she goes around doing things like transforming plastic explosive bombs into marzipan and such like !

[assault]

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Hmm . Sometimes you have to be careful creating "heros"in nations or ethnic groups that are not popular. I recently added a Palestinian super to my list. She is called "The Imp"(I don't know what that might be in Arabic' date=' so I used English). Her super power is the ability to transform anymaterial to any other material. I imagine her as not at all political, but protective of the ordinary Palistinian population and that she goes around doing things like transforming plastic explosive bombs into marzipan and such like ![/quote']

 

In fact, this character is an example of why you have to be careful. She's "not at all political", but "goes around doing things like transforming plastic explosive bombs into marzipan", that is, _is_ political.

[philnicau]

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the campaign i'm currently playing in is set in Melbourne Australia in 1940, we have the following characters

Southern Cross (me)-formerly a union official, now a brick, with a high degree of defence, megaleaping, luck and eiditic memory.

White Tiger -society gal who gained mystical powers from a group of tiger worshippers in the dutch east indies, basically she is a cat like character with claws, regeneration, running and very high dex.

The Cricketer -a member of the 1948 invincibles cricket team, who fell through a time warp back to 1940, receiving psychic powers, and an enchanted cricket bat.

 

villians we have encountered include

From Golden Age of Champions-modified

The Doberman -a agent of anubis, but crazy thinks he is in fact the agent of the god of dogs, commits crimes with a dog motif, can be a real pain, hunts White Tiger (dogs chase cats)

El Diablo Rojo -Mexican Masked Wrestler with Fire Powers, fights for the people, basically a communist villian.

Veltro -Italian Superspeeder,and superpatriot.

Captain Future Timecop from a world where the axis powers won WW2, hunts the cricketer, uses high tech (from the 1950s) weaponry.

Dr Qual Generic Nazi Mad Scientist, comes up with megalomaniacal schemes every few weeks.

others

Deathbolt -(from DC comics) a energy projector, hunts Southern Cross

Red Fire -a flame projector similar to the human torch, another communist villian works with El Diablo Rojo

Kitsune female Japanese Shapechanger and Mentalist.

[zornwil]

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In fact' date=' this character is an example of why you have to be careful. She's "not at all political", but "goes around doing things like transforming plastic explosive bombs into marzipan", that is, _is_ political.[/quote']

Mmm, yes, kinda, and certainly to terrorists, but in a way that I think MOST would see as not really being political, if she's saving Palestinian lives from Israeli forces as well, which would be my presumption. If she's allowing terrorists to kill soldiers and vice-versa, that's fairly apolitical as well, in its way. I mean, yes, everything's a statement, but I think a character such as Imp can be in the middle of a conflict but not seen by anyone other than extremists as being part of it.

 

EDIT/PS - that was part of my NPC "the Slav"'s thing as well, he didn't pick sides in the Bosnia-Herzegovina conflict but certainly stopped all sorts of attacks on citizenry.

[st barbara]

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To "Zornwill"and "Ässault" What I meant by "not being political"was that she doesn't take sides in the political conflict but tries to use her powers to improve the lot of the ordinary people in The West Bank and Gaza. As "Zornwill"says she uses her powers to try to stop BOTH sides from hurting innocents (and killing each other). I don't see transforming a dangerous bomb into something harmless so that it cannot hurt anyone as a political statement so much as a humanitarian statement ! As I said she was a difficult concept to arrive at because, if I had come down firmly on the side of the Palastinians and had her be an out and out superterrorist I would have had to justify WHY she hasn't been eliminated by the Israelies (who have a team of supers of their own) On the other hand, if she had been obviously pro Israel how could she function in the West Bank and Gaza ?

[Crackerjacker]

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Gaucho: Argentina's rough and tumble trained normal hero

[Rene]

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Hm... if we're talking national stereotypes turned superheroes, I think...

 

The premiere Brazilian hero would be a trickster hero, perhaps with illusion powers and enhanced dexterity and charisma, something like that. He would be a lazy, amorous, likeable chap. He would probably prefer to outfox and deceive his enemies over beating the crap out of them. He also would work outside the law frequently if need be to stop the bad guys (Brazilians usually don't have that American attitude of "Oh my God, I just broke a law! Oh no! Now I'm going into a slippery slope and I'll become a psycho!") but mostly in a non-violent way.

 

I don't know what this hero would be called. I'm very bad at creating names.

 

With a few alterations to the archetype (perhaps playing up the sex thing), this hero could be a heroine. A revealing "sexist" costume would certainly be more appropriate for a Brazilian heroine than for an American one, even though the idea that we live in Carnival 12 months a year is ridiculous.

[zornwil]

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Hm... if we're talking national stereotypes turned superheroes, I think...

 

The premiere Brazilian hero would be a trickster hero, perhaps with illusion powers and enhanced dexterity and charisma, something like that. He would be a lazy, amorous, likeable chap. He would probably prefer to outfox and deceive his enemies over beating the crap out of them. He also would work outside the law frequently if need be to stop the bad guys (Brazilians usually don't have that American attitude of "Oh my God, I just broke a law! Oh no! Now I'm going into a slippery slope and I'll become a psycho!") but mostly in a non-violent way.

 

I don't know what this hero would be called. I'm very bad at creating names.

 

With a few alterations to the archetype (perhaps playing up the sex thing), this hero could be a heroine. A revealing "sexist" costume would certainly be more appropriate for a Brazilian heroine than for an American one, even though the idea that we live in Carnival 12 months a year is ridiculous.

Thanks, good ideas, I'll probably swipe those at some point.

 

Maybe a transsexual even, if we're talking stereotyped views?

[Rene]

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Thanks' date=' good ideas, I'll probably swipe those at some point.[/quote']

 

You're welcome. A Brazilian expression that would be hard to translate but would be adequate for this hero's name could be "the Way". Mostly in the sense that he always would find a way to turn the situation into his advantage, often without resorting to violence.

 

 

Maybe a transsexual even' date=' if we're talking stereotyped views?[/quote']

 

Eh. I wasn't aware that Brazilians carried this particular stereotype in the eyes of the rest of the world. But yes, a shapeshifting character that regularly changed gender and/or race could play well into the amorous Brazilian Trickster stereotype.

 

Interestingly enough, in Grant Morrison's "The Invisibles", his trasvestite hero, Lord Fanny, is a Brazilian.

 

But no, I don't think we have more transexuals than any other country. This stereotype probably originates from Brazilian transexuals going to live in Europe, seeking a more tolerant climate and perhaps giving the impression that there is a lot of TG people here.

[zornwil]

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You're welcome. A Brazilian expression that would be hard to translate but would be adequate for this hero's name could be "the Way". Mostly in the sense that he always would find a way to turn the situation into his advantage, often without resorting to violence.

 

 

 

 

Eh. I wasn't aware that Brazilians carried this particular stereotype in the eyes of the rest of the world. But yes, a shapeshifting character that regularly changed gender and/or race could play well into the amorous Brazilian Trickster stereotype.

 

Interestingly enough, in Grant Morrison's "The Invisibles", his trasvestite hero, Lord Fanny, is a Brazilian.

 

But no, I don't think we have more transexuals than any other country. This stereotype probably originates from Brazilian transexuals going to live in Europe, seeking a more tolerant climate and perhaps giving the impression that there is a lot of TG people here.

Well, Brazil's known for particularly beautiful/convincing TSes, not to say of course that we think all your women are those!

 

I had forgotten Lord Fanny was Brazilian.

 

PS - Brazilian trannies are a big porn industry, FYI.

[st barbara]

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Let me see "Brazilian Supers"(Looks up book of heros) Well, one that I came up with was "La Carioca"(which my dictionary defines as a native of Rio De Janero") My concept was that of a female beach volleyball champion (I've seen the Brazilian beach volleyballers at various olympics, and they are some of the best in the world) who has "tactile telekinesis"which I defined as a sort of super strength but only for lifting and throwing objects. She also has "Super Leap, acrobatics, and has learned some martial arts (Aikido). Her main tactic is to pick something up and toss it (with amazing accuracy and force) at wrongdoers ! Naturally she is tall, athletic and beautiful and wears a costume similar to those worn by competitors in Beach Volleyball at the Olympics.

[Slim_McCoy]

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This seems like a good place to drop a link and a snippet of the article..

 

http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=146049&command=displayContent&sourceNode=145779&contentPK=10927584

 

IS IT A BIRD . . . IS IT A PLANE? NO, IT'S WESTON-SUPER-MAN

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09:30 - 10 September 2004

He is an icon of all-American heroism - but yesterday it was revealed that Superman is set to quit the US for a West seaside resort. Weston-super-Mare, more famous for its donkeys than costumed crime-fighting, will replace the US mid-West as the place where the Man of Steel's spaceship crashes on Earth in an official comic.

 

Co-written by Weston-born Monty Python legend John Cleese, Superman: True Brit, is a tongue-in-cheek look at how the tights-clad hero may have developed had he grown up in the UK.

[Crackerjacker]

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Well, I once came up with a legacy of British football/soccer superheroes, under the name of The Score. The original was a normal human with incredible skills, and the current is a all around super-athelete, with, on topic-ally, Captain America type level superstrength, speed, and endurance.

[Pampero]

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I'm creating a character named "La Contessa de la Escarlata Mannana" (ie. "the Countess of the Scarlet Morning"). She's a Spanish superheroine rather like Batman only her schticks are swordplay and sorcerery (traditional Spanish fencing had a great deal of mysticism in it).

 

Actually, that would be La Condesa de la Mañana Escarlata (Spanish spelling nitpick. Sorry.)

 

*Ahem* Being Argentinean (or Argentine), I'd say a cool hero would be a Granadero. Granadero was a branch of the Army specially created in the 19th Century by Argentina's most brilliant General, José de San Martín. Although the uniform is not azure and white, the colors of our flag, it is still closely tied to our history. See an image of their uniform here.

 

http://www.capraro.com.ar/images/ilustrac/SanMartin/Regimiento_Granaderos.JPG

 

There is of course, an interesting page about DC's Global Guardians and other non-usa supers.

 

http://dcworld.itgo.com/

 

Super Malon, the DC Group created by Chuck Dixon and Enrique Alcatena is also here.

 

http://dcworld.itgo.com/SuperMalonArgentina.html