Super Squirrel Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Steve Long mentioned he has references to the Elder Worm story that takes place behind the scenes sprinkled throughout many books. I ran into one of them today and decided it would probably be a good idea to just setup a thread devoted to collecting the various Elder Worm book and page references. Elder Worm References: CKC pgs. 198-200 TA pg. 285 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection Elder Worm References: CKC.198-200 Demon.39, 60 Galatic Champions.32, 87-88 Hidden Lands.46, 87 Teen Champions.44 Terran Empire.46, 195 Slug References: Galatic Champions.86 (Slug 3000) Champions Universe.17, 24 Hidden Lands.46 Demon.60, 154 CKC.198 Teen Champions.44 Viper.172 are the Elder Worm known as anything else? Haven't really followed their story much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McCarthy Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection Did you want to include references as far back as Champions 3rd edition or earlier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection I'm more interested in 5th Edition references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threnody Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection What I wanna see is an explanation of what it is. Cause I ain't got a *@in' clue what's going down with this. Seriously, I seen references all over to "The Elder Worm" phrased like just everybody knows what it is, but not one word of description nowhere. Somebody please clue me in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection Hidden Lands pg46 has the longest description I've run into. They're a race of aliens that worship the Kings Of Edom. Very evil and very ... wormy. Basically they're you're evil conquering alien race type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection Threnody -- start with the CKC reference listed above. That'll give you the basics. Everything else is just gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection Threnody -- start with the CKC reference listed above. That'll give you the basics. Everything else is just gravy. At least until The Ultimate Elder Worm makes the schedule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection At least until The Ultimate Elder Worm makes the schedule By then it will be too late to oppose them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted March 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection At least until The Ultimate Elder Worm makes the schedule Isn't that book just one big character sheet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilFleischmann Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection What I wanna see is an explanation of what it is. Cause I ain't got a *@in' clue what's going down with this. Seriously, I seen references all over to "The Elder Worm" phrased like just everybody knows what it is, but not one word of description nowhere. Somebody please clue me in? Just take the character sheet for The Younger Worm, and add the Age Disadvantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection I've always seen the Elder Wyrm as making for a multi-generational plot. They seem to have been responsible for a lot of evil on Earth from the beginning, and almost everyone on Terra has faced off against them & their masters at one point or another. Personally I like them. I like Lovecraftian villains, and they can provide ready-made bad guys in almost any era of the Champions Universe. And good on the Squirrely one for making this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkenfresh Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection I gleaned a lot of info about them from Terran Empire's "GM Section". I felt it was enough to get by with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection What's truly grotesque to contemplate is that human beings possess some latent Elder Worm genes. I don't even wanna think about how they got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection What I wanna see is an explanation of what it is. Cause I ain't got a *@in' clue what's going down with this. Seriously, I seen references all over to "The Elder Worm" phrased like just everybody knows what it is, but not one word of description nowhere. Somebody please clue me in? Essentially, the Elder Worms are an ancient malevolent magic using race, in the style of "Lovecraftian" Horrors from Beyond. They served the Kings of Edom (think Lovecraft's Old Ones), and dominated much of this galaxy, including Earth in the days of Mankind's infancy, until being all but wiped out in a long bitter war with the Malvans. Pockets of the Elder Worms continued to survive in hidden refuges on Earth and other worlds; sometimes secretly ruling the natives, at other times entering a state of dormancy until conditions are ripe for them to awaken and attempt to seize power again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threnody Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection So it ain't "THE Elder Worm," it's "Elder Worms." That 'splains alot. Thanks, Erkenfresh, that helped. I borrowed T. Empire and read them up. I ever find someone with Hidden Lands, ghost-angel, I'll borrow it off them awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Anomaly Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection So it ain't "THE Elder Worm' date='" it's "Elder Worms." That 'splains alot.[/quote'] Well, sure it is...the same way we tend to say "it's the British". (Not that I'm equating the Brits with the Elder Worm, mind you; just using that as a convenient example of language.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection In a past campaign, I wove together various Champions references to create The Elder Worm, spawner of the Slug's race and a number of other Lovecraftian horrors from published books. In its final form Azog, the Elder Worm was one of the Kings of Edom, de facto overlord of Earth among other worlds in the distant past. Azog became a major behind-the-scenes influence on that campaign, mostly through manipulating various pawns in an attempt to free itself from its prison dimension. Azog was the "father" of the Crimson Claw from The Great Super Villain Contest; patron of Azor of the Blood (The Blood and Dr. McQuark); creator of the Worm Scepter used by Fear of the Horsemen, and served by the Prime and the other Old Ones (Wrath of the Seven Horsemen); and the subject of the attempted summoning by the Demons from Demons Rule. The name "Azog" came from the GSVC, while the Elder Worm's appearance was based on the Worm Scepter: a gigantic green worm with huge bat wings and a fanged mouth. Opening its mouth would reveal an enormous gemstone within its maw, the Emerald Eye of Azog (the ones used in the GSVC were mere chips off the original); a great glowing eye appeared to float in the center of the emerald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Anomaly Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection IThe name "Azog" came from the GSVC... While I was reading the first paragraph I was thinking to myself, "Y'know, that sounds kinda familiar...wasn't that...yup, GSVC!" Of course, I also remember one Focus in there being listed as "an Invisible, Desolid magic ring" -- which I took to be the direct reason for that being used as an example of something that is not a Focus in a later edition of Champions/HERO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection That's some great work you did there, Lord Liaden. Rep to you. EDIT: Repped as soon as I can, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threnody Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection Well, sure it is...the same way we tend to say "it's the British". (Not that I'm equating the Brits with the Elder Worm, mind you; just using that as a convenient example of language.) Nah, you wanna make it parallel, ask which is right "The Briton" or "The Britons"? Cause their called "The Elder Worm(s)" not "The Elder". Compare adjectives to adjectives, nouns to nouns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection Threnody -- start with the CKC reference listed above. That'll give you the basics. Everything else is just gravy. Of course, that's the same gravy that the Elder Worms are going to pour over planet Earth just before they EAT US ALL ALIVE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intrope Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection What's truly grotesque to contemplate is that human beings possess some latent Elder Worm genes. I don't even wanna think about how they got there. The sinister truth: Tentacle Porn fetishes are entirely natural, and not perversion of your true nature in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Anomaly Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection The sinister truth: Tentacle Porn fetishes are entirely natural' date=' and not perversion of your true nature in any way.[/quote'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: Elder Worm Reference Collection What's truly grotesque to contemplate is that human beings possess some latent Elder Worm genes. I don't even wanna think about how they got there. well... it explains Newt Gingrich at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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