JmOz Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Okay we have had Superman vs Thor, Batman vs Cap, I think if I dug around I could find Dr Fate vs Dr Strange but now is the battle to end all battles: The evil villain Dust Bunny has set two unbeleivable powers of good against each other, who will be victorious In this corner we have Javis, first the Butler to the Invincible Iron Man but would become famous as the Butler to Earth's Mightiest Heroes AND IN THIS CORNER We have Alfred, the faithful butler to probable the hardes master posible that of Bruce Wayne... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 How old are they? I dont know jack about Jarvis, but Alfred Did know how to box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupus Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Originally posted by Patriot How old are they? I dont know jack about Jarvis, but Alfred Did know how to box Only time I've ever seen Jarvis in any kind of action scene, it was against the Masters of Evil, and... well, he was kinda tied up at the time. So it wasn't exactly a fair fight. I think it was basically implied that he had no combat ability. But if you hit him, the Avengers get pissed off. So the outcome of this fight really depends on whether Iron Man's present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 In one of the myriad incarnations Alfred was a british commando before he followed family tradition and became a gentleman's gentleman for the Wayne family. There have been a couple of instances he keep villians out of the batcave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Arrow Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Yes, Alfred has always been shown as being a man of (many) hidden depths. Jarvis is quite resilient, calm and strong-willed, but Alfred has all that, plus (depending on who's writing), commando training (never seen this particular one, but sounds reasonable), intelligence community training (episode of B:TAS called something like "The Lion and the Unicorn"), field medic skills (always sewing up young master Bruce) and acting abilities, including disguise. If you attack Jarvis, you might get the Avengers on your back, but if you hurt Alfred, Batman would be on you before you could say "knife". I'm not sure that would be much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorVonDoom Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Jarvis is the butler of the Avengers ...i wouldn't call him a villan (or when he was appointed as the Red Cowl by Ultron 5) A Battle of the Century would be between Thor , Ultron, Darkseid & Superman, Meteorman III (Champions Universe) and (the bad guy of Champion Universe) DR Destroyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 I vaguely recall Jarvis displaying some combat ability in one issue. Not sure if that counts. Not sure if Alfred's beefing up over the years counts any more, though. I think they'd team up and crush Dust Bunny for his temitry and ill manners, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by Lupus Only time I've ever seen Jarvis in any kind of action scene, it was against the Masters of Evil, and... well, he was kinda tied up at the time. So it wasn't exactly a fair fight. That's because they FEARED him! Mr Hyde: "Make sure he's secure so he can't kick my arse, I'm gonna clip him one." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Didnt Mr Hyde beat Jarvis to within an inch of his life? My money is on Batman's go to guy, Alfred. Behind every great vigilante is a strong but silent butler after all. Seriously though, Alfred is the type who could force Jarvis to collapse from mortification with a mere raised eyebrow and a foreboding sniff. Its all about PRE baby; and where do you think Bruce Wayne learned his trademarked "Make the baddy go wee in his pants" stare? Thats right, his surogate guardian, Alfred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaniac99 Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Alfred all the way, i mean if, by some miracle, Jarvis beat up Alfred, then he would have batman to deal with, then if the Avengers did come the JL would come, and in the long fight that would follow (with the Avengers winning) Alfred and Jarvis would recover, Alfred would beat Jarvis up again, retreat to the batcave and come back with the Bat-mech or something to help the JL, which at this time would be unconcious, but the Avengers would be too worn out to fight much more so Alfred would defeat the Avengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Originally posted by Insaniac99 Alfred all the way, i mean if, by some miracle, Jarvis beat up Alfred, then he would have batman to deal with, then if the Avengers did come the JL would come, and in the long fight that would follow (with the Avengers winning) Alfred and Jarvis would recover, Alfred would beat Jarvis up again, retreat to the batcave and come back with the Bat-mech or something to help the JL, which at this time would be unconcious, but the Avengers would be too worn out to fight much more so Alfred would defeat the Avengers. Of course, once Stark saw the Bat-Mech he would become convinced that his technology was ripped off to make it, and go on a rampage afterwards to wipe it out, along with every other power suit in existance. Eventually he'd end up in the Valiant Universe and X-O Manowar/Eric the Visigoth would give him a Claymore enema and then Axe would come along and steal the Iron Man armor. This would force Rhodes to seek revenge with War Machine, and after he accidentally laid waste to a bunch of Eggbreakers he met on accident, he would finally find Axe, but just when Axe is about to take over his suits on board systems, Solar Man of the Atom would suffer a random brain fart for some reason that for a brief moment sunders time, space, and dimensional boundaries, leaving War Machine stranded in 40000 AD. Magnus Robot Fighter would then mistake him for a bot and smash his head in. Jarvis had better think about that the next time he wants to get scratchy with Alfred..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Originally posted by Crimson Arrow ...but Alfred has all that, plus (depending on who's writing), commando training (never seen this particular one, but sounds reasonable)... only in a comic book would it be reasonable for Batman's butler to have formerly been a british commando... there was an issue of the Avengers, where Jarvis defeated a robot (or something) with an umbrella... i believe this was back when he also wore an eyepatch (result of the Mr. Hyde beating). but seeing as how they're both British, it's probably safe to assume that, in the tradition of John Steed and other exemplars of merry ol', they are equals when the weapon of choice is an umbrella. anyway, my money's on alfred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kara Zor-El Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Actually, according to a back up story in Avengers #201, Edwin Jarvis was in the army and a boxing champ. Real battle of the century: One piece swimsuits or two piece? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Originally posted by Kara Zor-El Actually, according to a back up story in Avengers #201, Edwin Jarvis was in the army and a boxing champ. Real battle of the century: One piece swimsuits or two piece? lol hmmm... i think i'd rather see Alfred and Jarvis duking it out while wearing two piece swimsuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 There was an Avengers issue many years ago (at least 10, more like 20) that featured Jarvis. It had to do with a neighborhood bully. The folks wanted Jarvis to call the Avengers, but he had a great comeback line: "The Avengers' handle problems that threaten the world or even the entire galaxy. They count on us to deal with lesser problems by standing up for ourselves and for each other" He then punched said small-time thug several times: Thug: "How'd you do that?" Jarvis: "Quite easily, actually, having been two-time boxing champ on my ship in the Navy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kara Zor-El Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Originally posted by Arthur There was an Avengers issue many years ago (at least 10, more like 20) that featured Jarvis. It had to do with a neighborhood bully. The folks wanted Jarvis to call the Avengers, but he had a great comeback line: "The Avengers' handle problems that threaten the world or even the entire galaxy. They count on us to deal with lesser problems by standing up for ourselves and for each other" He then punched said small-time thug several times: Thug: "How'd you do that?" Jarvis: "Quite easily, actually, having been two-time boxing champ on my ship in the Navy." That's it! Back up story in Avengers #200 or #201. I'm thinking 201. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starblaze Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 That was a very cool story. Go Jarvis! Actually, I think what would happen is the two of them would get together and gang-bang that Aunt whats-her-name from the BatMan T.V. show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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