bubba smith Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 i read in another post that FANASY HERO was being rereleased and was wondering i know what the archtiypes for PULP HERO, mainsteam and dark champions and ninja hero are but may i ask what are the basic archtype for fantasy hero? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Wizard, Warrior, Thief, Ranger, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markdoc Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Wizard' date=' Warrior, Thief, Ranger, right?[/quote'] And Cleric! And Aasimar Rogue/Cleric/Swordsage/Paladin! cheers, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korvar Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Cleric Barbarian warrior Absurdly overpowered Elf (whether inspired by Drizzt or Orlando Bloom) Grumpy hard-drinking Scottish Dwarf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsoul Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Then there's friendly pirates, bright eyed young country boys turned heroes, gruff woodsy types, paladins and other square jawed pure hearted types, mysterious shadowy mages, gritty, ruthless mercenaries and other mercenaries who apear to be gritty and ruthless but are actually very nice when you get to know them, demented wizards, seers and prophets with a greater insight than normal men, monstrous characters attempting to regain or develop a sense of humanity by battling their monstrous kin, gallant noblemen, dissolute noblemen and emancipated princesses with a taste for adventure, inhuman characters who don't understand human society but who have a strong sense of honour and learn to respect or at least like humanity despite its failings, tormented characters desperately attempting to overcome a debilitating curse or tendency to go berserk at the most unfortunate times. I could go on. There are a lot of archetypal Fantasy characters. From the point of view of archetypes as 'classes' or 'character themes' I'd go with what's been said already with the addition of Assassin and Martial Artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes or you could call i warrior/martial artist whats the difference betwen ranger and paladin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsoul Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Visibility, fighting style, preferred abilities. One is very stealthy, talks to animals and shoots at you from a distance while the other shows up like a spotlight, rides around on a big horse or some such animal and hits you with a big glowing melee weapon. To put it another way by the time you see the Paladin in the distance the Ranger has been standing behind you for at least ten minutes. You could say that they are both divine warriors but in Hero terms there is no need for a Ranger/Woodsy type to have magical abilities at all and no guarantee that any such abilities come from a deity. But in terms of the feel of the character and what they are like to play they are pretty distinct from each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Sinister undead armies, elves and orcs with a bitter hatred among them, a young albeit common adventurer who by skill and daring secures a position of royalty or great power, subterranean creatures who plot against the folk above ground, stupid lumbering giants who are united by plotting villain, questing to find powerful artifacts (weapons, armor, etc), In general, the notion that ordinary folk can achieve what usually only royalty hope to achieve. Shadowsoul has a pretty good list. Hope that helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Visibility, fighting style, preferred abilities. One is very stealthy, talks to animals and shoots at you from a distance while the other shows up like a spotlight, rides around on a big horse or some such animal and hits you with a big glowing melee weapon. To put it another way by the time you see the Paladin in the distance the Ranger has been standing behind you for at least ten minutes. You could say that they are both divine warriors but in Hero terms there is no need for a Ranger/Woodsy type to have magical abilities at all and no guarantee that any such abilities come from a deity. But in terms of the feel of the character and what they are like to play they are pretty distinct from each other. then the ranger would be a fantasy campaigns ninja equivelent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsoul Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes In a fantasy setting without Ninjas then yes Rangers would be an ideal Ninja substitute. Elves work quite well also In fact all trees in a Fantasy setting should come with the following label. "Warning! May contain Elves." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes star elf vampire (half) true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Typist Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes then the ranger would be a fantasy campaigns ninja equivelent Yeah, I'd disagree. I'd say the ninja is the ninja, and the ranger is a ranger. You COULD compare a ranger to a bounty hunter, if you wanted to transport a lot of it to modern settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes . . . Uh . . . I thought Dudes were a Western stereotype? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Here's a link to a thread that I think might help you... http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1667922#post1667922 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Pirates - if you're having something as silly as a martial artist in a fantasy setting, then pirates fit in just as well. With peg legs, parrots and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsoul Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Then there's friendly pirates. Ahem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Ahem. Whoops sorry I just find "martial artist" to be not fantasy genre at all - it's wushu or mythic Chinese genre and has no place in pseudo-medieval European based fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsoul Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes I never said anything about pseudo-medieval fantasy but I take your point. I was kind of extending 'martial artist' to mean any fighter who relies on skill and flashy moves rather than big weapons and high stats e.g. fencers. On the other hand that's fairly well covered by the 'fighter' archetype so maybe I was overcomplicating the issue. I will stand by assassin as an archetype however, assassins are a fantasy staple, both in literature and in RPGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Yeah, but I tend to go along with the GM in The Gamers: Dorkness Rising. Marial arts - especially a "monk" practicing martial arts in a European setting is just ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsoul Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Certainly a martial arts character based on a Buddhist monk or Wuxia style martial artist who is dropped into a Medieval European style setting is highly anachronistic and ruins any claims one could make for the setting's historical authenticity, (not that that is necessarily a problem in fantasy which is, after all, fantasy). If however you are arguing that Medieval Europeans lacked sophisticated and formalised martial disciplines such as fencing, jousting, sword and shield and knightly wrestling which could be represented in Hero with martial manouevres then I must beg to differ. As would the folks at this charming website which I have Bismark to thank for directing me to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes As a ex-Dark Age re-enactor, I have no problems with that. It's the common usage version of "martial arts" I was referring too - which means "an asian style of fighting which is unarmed, or uses peculiar weapons" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Typist Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Well...any setting that is so rigid that you can't have someone be a mysterious traveler from a distant land who knows unheard of techniques of fighting.... Sounds kind of boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Well...any setting that is so rigid that you can't have someone be a mysterious traveler from a distant land who knows unheard of techniques of fighting.... Sounds kind of boring. It often gets overdone. Plus, there do seem to be people around who picture a D&D monk as a Franciscan friar or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-Walton Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Re: fantasy hero archtypes Buxom Viking Wench, perchance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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