Dr. MID-Nite Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Ok.....what sort of sensory input do you actually get when you use radar(assume basic rules version of the power)? Do you just get a blip in your mind or....well....that's my question....what exactly does it show you....and how is the perception different from say...Sonar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 In both cases it's the reflectivity (vs. absorption) of the material to the particular form of energy being reflected. Metal would would usually give a hard return for both Radar and Sonar. Wood on the other hand would not give as much of a return from Radar as from Sonar. Think about what does or doesn't interfere with your cell phone reception when indoors and no WiFi is available. An indoor dead zone is likely blocked by something that would give a high contrast return for Radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 You get enough information to be targeting through whatever sensory organ or device provides the power. The only real difference from sonar is the sense group with all the various diferences for special effect. What you perceive is something you and the GM have to work out. RAW says it compensates for sight but lacks detail. So you can't read or pick out fine details without discriminatory and analyze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 You get enough information to be targeting through whatever sensory organ or device provides the power. The only real difference from sonar is the sense group with all the various diferences for special effect. What you perceive is something you and the GM have to work out. RAW says it compensates for sight but lacks detail. So you can't read or pick out fine details without discriminatory and analyze. So...essentially both give you the general location of...something, but no fine details as to what...so essentially...a blip....which could be a person...a chair...whatever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I can no more explain that to you than I could explain color to a blind person. Actually, for me to try to explain it would be like one blind person explaining color to another. Lucius Alexander The palindromedary says Hyper Man made a good start and wonders if Hyper Man has Radar Sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 You get enough information to be targeting through whatever sensory organ or device provides the power. The only real difference from sonar is the sense group with all the various diferences for special effect. What you perceive is something you and the GM have to work out. RAW says it compensates for sight but lacks detail. So you can't read or pick out fine details without discriminatory and analyze. So...essentially both give you the general location of...something, but no fine details as to what...so essentially...a blip....which could be a person...a chair...whatever? You get enough to tell objects and people apart in general but would have holes that sighted people wouldn't have. Talisman and Witchcraft would look the same to you because the dyed hair wouldn't show. Plastic Man would have no end of amusement with you. By the same token i'd rule that a mostly metal robot double would be obvious to you at first glance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyber624 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Look to various TV shows/movies for what forms of information would be available to you. Because we humans lack a Radar/Sonar sense of our ownand sight is our primary sense most shows depict visually what you would "see" with this sense. Basically I would say you can see a the definite outline, with (as Hyperman stated) some method of telling how "Radar Reflective" the substance is (think shades of color that you, through training, can use to roughly identify what something might be made of). Fine details will be lost, as will any form of color so reading isn't going to happen. Of course don't forget the amount of detail you get depends on the Modifiers you buy the sense with. Analyze/Discriminatory will go a long way towards allowing you to use such a sense to replace vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 (Active) Radar as part of the Radio Group: Detect (5 Points), Active; Targetting The Radio Group provides: Sense, Range Active Sonar as part of the Hearing Group: Detect (5 Points), Active; Targetting Hearing Group Provides: limited Discriminatory, Range, Sense. Note that both lack 360° perception and that both are usually build with Megascale in thier Military Applications. While they are mostly identical, the one difference is that Radar does not even has the limited Discriminatory. So you can not identify easily what you see. Detect itself only allows detection of Presence/Absence and a rough measure of Intensity. You could know if there is nothing, a small bird, a huamn sized powerarmor, a jet, a jumbojet or supervillains fortress/zeppelin in a specific point of space (different sized radarblobs). If there are multiple identical things, you could target "the third from the left". But you need other sense to figure out who the third from the left is and that you would like to attack him/it. Without extra Sense Modifiers, you cannot discriminate between a wood, stone or forcewall of equal size. You also cannot tell that this is Iron Man (and not Warmachine) or that this Jet is a F-15 and not a MiG-21. That is all we can really say about it. Hero deals primarily with the Rules side of things. For the purpose of the Rules Radar in the Radio Group is a 120°, Ranged, Active Sense. It works as targetting sense, but does not allow identification of targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escafarc Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think Radar had EDM-Time Travel. It explains the comic books from the future and that he was a virgin in the later shows even though he wasn't in the first couple of seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think Radar had EDM-Time Travel. It explains the comic books from the future and that he was a virgin in the later shows even though he wasn't in the first couple of seasons..... What???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDancer Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think Radar had EDM-Time Travel. It explains the comic books from the future and that he was a virgin in the later shows even though he wasn't in the first couple of seasons.Christopher and company, Escafarc is talking about the M.A.S.H. TV shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think Radar had EDM-Time Travel. It explains the comic books from the future and that he was a virgin in the later shows even though he wasn't in the first couple of seasons.and beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.