PamelaIsley Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 I was trying to create a 6E spellcaster and looking through my DnD books for example spells , when I came across one I had nearly forgotten: Trap the Soul. Basically, the spell causes someone's body to disappear and their soul to be stuck in a gem, until the gem is broken. Here is info: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/trapTheSoul.htm I'm guessing this is a pretty straightforward Transform power in Hero, built almost exactly like a Petrification transform. So it might look like: Transformation (Severe Transform 4d6 (Human Into Gem, Application of Similar Power) (60 Active Points); Limited Target ([Limited]; Humans; -1/2)); 40 point cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 There is a case to be made for using extra-dimensional movement, usableon others.... Duke Bushido, massey, zslane and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Simple and elegant, just like DD himself. Doc Democracy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 This is a "I wish you into the Cornfield" effect. EDM, Useable as attack is the direct choice. But I loathe applying UAA on any movement power. Much less on Extra Dimensional Movement. Personally I think what might be more balanced would be Severe Transform. This is a effect wich is just shy of death (in how debilitating it is). Severe Transform covers a effect that is "just shy of death": "Turning a person into a stone statue or an animal" Trap the Soul turns the target into a gem, rather then a stone statue. Healing by breaking the gem. Killer Shrike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamelaIsley Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 I think I agree with Christopher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, PamelaIsley said: I think I agree with Christopher. I am devastated!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, L. Marcus said: Simple and elegant, just like DD himself. But this more than makes up for it!!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Christopher said: Personally I think what might be more balanced would be Severe Transform. This is a effect wich is just shy of death (in how debilitating it is). Thinking purely in point terms, I agree. Actually putting the soul into the gem as a matter of transport leaves the victim open to communication, to being visited and possibly to being busted out. The roleplaying opportunities of it being a destination rather than a physical state are HUGE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Question, is the player still able to adventure and needs his soul out of the gem? Or is he trapped in the gem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Ninja-Bear said: Question, is the player still able to adventure and needs his soul out of the gem? Or is he trapped in the gem? If this spell somehow traps the players soul, something went Jumanjii there. I think you need to write it out a bit more. Amorkca 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamelaIsley Posted February 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 In DnD, the body disappears and the person is trapped in the gem. Functionally, in both Hero and DnD really, I think it basically means the person is transformed into a gem. Ninja-Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Then it seems Transform would be the power to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I would use XDM. I have an old Ravenloft adventure module "The Forgotten Terror" (2e) that basically answers the question of what happens when someone's soul is trapped in an object. The setting for the adventure is a tiny pocket domain of dread build like a horror funhouse that exists w/in the jewel of a soul stealing dagger. Each facet of the jewel is its own sub domain or room of the horror funhouse & represents a different aspect of the trapped soul's life & personality [possibly based on Complications in HERO terms]. ~Mister E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamelaIsley Posted February 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I'm not sure the other players (or the GM) will appreciate an entire side adventure built around one person running around a gem. For the purpose that I envision, I think Transformation works best. Using extradimensional movement does remind me of Nebula (a villain in the 6E Volume 3 book, as well as some 5E stuff) and her ability to transport people to a sort of hellish prison dimension for eternity. Killer Shrike and Mister E 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I would say that your approach is correct...if pocket dimension side adventures stemming from Trap the Soul as EDM sound fun then that's a good approach, and if it does not then Transform is pragmatically more direct. There are other similar spells (Imprisonment comes to mind) that effectively remove a target from play one way or another. You might want to knock out other similar spells in that general category all at once and decide if you want a unified approach, or if you prefer to deliberately use different mechanics for each to inject more differentiation between them, or whatever. Mister E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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