nexus Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Has this one been done before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Well, I mentioned it briefly in the other thread, but I don't think anybody else discussed it then. Short version of what I said then -- JLA, via the speed blitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent X Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 JLA all the way - even Justice League Detroit or Justice League Antarctica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 *ignores* (as in, 'Just hit the ignore list, so you don't have to reply') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 JLA wins in a somewhat one-sided battle, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 even the Super freinds could trounce the authority. The flash will just fly at them and they would all faint... even the midnighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metaphysician Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Any JLA team that has a DC speedster on it wins handily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakboy6117 Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 the only way the authority could win this is if they where fighting the cartoon version then jsut maybe they would have a chance. mind you jackhawks moore woudl be totally useless as all the buildings in the cartoons are made out of styrofoam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 No fair, the Doctor gets to turn them into foodstuffs as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Well, the thing is, the Avengers had one speedblitzer who could knock one or two non-invulnerable Authority members unconscious, and that was if Swift couldn't do a flying block. The JLA have *four* speedblitzers, who can single-handedly punch out the entire Authority lineup at superspeed before any one of them gets to move -- the only exceptions being Apollo (who's flying, and durable enough to take multiple hits from Superman, Diana, J'onn) and a limited way Jack Hawksmoor or the Engineer (who the Flash can't punch out with one shot, but whom the other three can.) And Swift can't even hope to keep up with any one of them. The Doctor will be halfway through his first thought when *BLUR* and suddenly all but one or two of the Authority is lying stretched out flat on the mat. And that's if they /don't/ know who he is... he's just on the target list with all of the rest.(*) (The JLA actually /has/ used this tactic on rare occasions -- rare, yes, but mass carrot attacks by the Doctor are only slightly less rare... *g*) (*) After all, in superspeed mode, the JLA's speed guys can literally read all of "War And Peace" in the span of a millisecond, much less make a simple Half Phase PER roll and Deduction roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 *L* I can see the point. I think the JL would win as well (But then, I think the Avengers would win against the Authority also... so natch). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Just to be sure, this is the Big hitters of the JL right? Not Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, and the rest of the 80's crew? (Loved em, but not exactly the same thing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 True, when I hear the words "JLA", without a lineup specified, I automatically default to the Big Seven. (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, the Flash, and Aquaman(*).) (*) "Aquaman?", you might say, in between the fits of hysterical laughter? Well.... 1) I didn't name that lineup the 'big seven', DC did. I just report 'em. 2) To quote the legendary Kent "Unca Cheeks" Orlando... "There is -- and has always been, really --- a minor (but noisy) faction within JUSTICE LEAGUE fandom which holds that Aquaman is a "weak sister" within the League's ranks; an ineffectual (you should only pardon the expression, please) "water boy" for a team boasting of (among others) The Last Son of Krypton; The World's Greatest Detective; The Fastest Man Alive; etcetera, etcetera, and yadda yadda yadda. *ahem* He rules over THREE-FOURTHS of the entire freaking PLANET. This site is presently selling "clues" for five dollars a pop. -- from the legendary Unca Cheeks, circa 1998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Aquaman is okay in my book. Though I like the JL:Animated Series take on him best of all (Sorry, chopping off your own hand to save your son is muy macho) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Cross Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Actually,I think Superman could take out the entire Authority singlehanded. Hell,I think that Herald-Mage Vanyel Ashkevron could take them out singlehanded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 I think I just said that. Round one -- at superspeed, everybody but Apollo is now unconscious. Round two -- Superman proceeds to drag Apollo face-first through most of the Asteroid Belt -- lengthwise -- until Apollo's END reserve runs dry, and then gives him the Finger-Flick Of Unconsciousness. Edit -- as for Vanyel... ... actually, no. His spellcasting takes at least as long as the Doctor's, and *HE'S* never used magic to rip entire nations off the Earth's crust and see them cast into the interstellar void... Not to mention that (warning, anti-Vanyel fan rant follows, if you like Vanyel, you proceed at your own risk...), ... even if the Doctor /was/ high that day, Vanyel would still lose -- the Doctor would need five minutes to remember that he could just cast a spell to sober up quickly, but Vanyel would have to spend /ten/ minutes angsting, finding something else to take a guilt trip about, and fussing with his long damn bishonen hair. *pant pant* Sorry, I just didn't like the "Last Herald-Mage" trilogy. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Champsguy Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Aquaman rules 2/3 of the Earth's surface. It has a grand total of one city. A lot of area? Yes. A lot of people? Nope. It's like being Governor of Alaska. For all Aquaman's talk about superhuman durability (from surviving that undersea pressure and all), he still got his hand chewed off by piranhas. That means his skin has certain limits as to how tough it is. Aquaman is a tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Remember "World War III"? Remember the scene with the army arising out of the oceans to stop the impending war? Atlantis has enough of a military that it can stop the US Army dead in its tracks. Apparently, in the modern DCU, Atlantis is a mlitary hyperpower that compares with the US of A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Champsguy Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Yeah, I remember that. It's still lame, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Cross Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 True,DC's Atlantis is lame.I much prefer the Marvel version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allandrel Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 One very amusing possibility with such a matchup occured to me: the Midnighter vs. Plastic Man. There's one opponent Midnighter would not be able to predict. Patrick J McGraw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 DC did this a few years ago in some of the Superman books. Supe' took on an Authority like team by his lonesome and won. Have to look up the group & character names as well as the issues. I know it was around the War of the Worlds crossovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Manchester Black, Coldcast, and WTF the other guy was. Called themselves "the Elite". Really sloppy storyline, IMO. Edit -- just remembered. "The Hat". Superpower... he could pull anything out of his hat, right? WTF is this, the goddamned "Dungeons & Dragons" cartoon show of the 80's? Did Presto the Magician finally grow up and get another job? Good God, some days you wonder if DC's editors aren't just doing a Jayson Blair and only /pretending/ to show up for work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Edit -- as for Vanyel... ... actually, no. His spellcasting takes at least as long as the Doctor's, and *HE'S* never used magic to rip entire nations off the Earth's crust and see them cast into the interstellar void... Not to mention that (warning, anti-Vanyel fan rant follows, if you like Vanyel, you proceed at your own risk...), ... even if the Doctor /was/ high that day, Vanyel would still lose -- the Doctor would need five minutes to remember that he could just cast a spell to sober up quickly, but Vanyel would have to spend /ten/ minutes angsting, finding something else to take a guilt trip about, and fussing with his long damn bishonen hair. *pant pant* Sorry, I just didn't like the "Last Herald-Mage" trilogy. At all. [/b] All I'm gonna say about this is: please DO NOT get me started again. There's only so many vehement arguments a guy can take in a two day period. Er arguing about the Vanyel thing I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metaphysician Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Yeah, the Elite storyline was one big strawman. An actual crossover with the Ellis Authority would have been much better. Just having Superman and Jenny Sparks in the same room for a while would be worth it. Here's hoping the Black Reign JSA storyline is successful. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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