Villainy Amok

[Darkness]

The tables in Villainy Amok often make note of a "benchmark character."

 

How do I best decide who the benchmark character is - e.g., should I generally use the PC whose powers are the most similar to the intended villain's?

[MitchellS]

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The tables in Villainy Amok often make note of a "benchmark character."

 

How do I best decide who the benchmark character is - e.g., should I generally use the PC whose powers are the most similar to the intended villain's?

I believe "benchmark" is used to describe the current power level of the existing character who is going to be used in the adventure. Saying benchmark +5 pd/ed mean the villain should have 5 pd/ed more than the character. That way it doesn't matter if your character has 10 pd/ed or 50 pd/ed. You just know the villain needs to have X amount more.

[FenrisUlf]

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The ones I wrote but which didn't make it into the book were:

 

"Eat Caped Justice, Fools!" (the Superhero Trial Scenario)

"They Bombed The Abortion Clinic" (The Socially Relevant Scenario)

 

The superhero trial sounds cool. As for 'socially relevant' -- erm, I dunno. I've seen way too many attempts at socially relevant in RPGing (mainly WW's World of Darkness) that degenerated into 'let's bash on [insert group that opposes our Enlightened position].' Cardboard characters and hopelessly lame set-ups _just_ to show how wrong one side or the other is.

 

Not that I think it couldn't be done, a la' several of Busiek's Astro City stories, but to be done right it's have to show how both sides have good and bad points. I'm pretty sure Mister Bennie could do it, from what I've seen in VA, but it'd be hard.

 

Scenarios which were planned but which pretty much exist only as a few 2-3 paragraph notes include:

 

"Who Killed Strontium-90?" (The superhero murder mystery)

“Chained to Evil†(escorting supercriminals to prison)

"Get Your Filthy Paws Off Simianopolis!" (Lost Worlds In Danger)

"The Island Where Superheroes Are Hunted Like Big Game Animals"

"I Want One... Million... Dollars..." (the Kidnapping scenario)

“Ooops!†(When Military Weapons Tests Go Horribly Wrong!)

"The Polar Ice Cap Melt" (and Other Doomsday Weapon Scenarios)

"Smuggler's Round-up" (Smuggling scenarios and their complications)

"The Telepathic Hate Crime Cult"

 

If I should ever be fortunate enough to do a sequel, I'd probably change things around a bit - there were a few suggestions in the "What Would You Like To See" thread that deserve exploring - and I'd include a second Plot Gallery.

 

Number three sounds cool -- and what the heck is the 'telepathic hate crime cult' idea? I've never even heard of it before.

[Steve Long]

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what the heck is the 'telepathic hate crime cult' idea?

 

That's the bit where a mentalist, often a low-powered one, establishes mental control over lots and lots of ordinary folks and uses them for his own insidious criminal purposes. The "Mindworm" story in Amazing Spider-Man years ago is one example; so's the Man-Beast story arc in early issues of Peter Parker the Spectacular Spider-Man. I'm sure there are plenty of examples from other books; I just read a lot of Spidey as a kid.

[Enforcer84]

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That's the bit where a mentalist' date=' often a low-powered one, establishes mental control over lots and lots of ordinary folks and uses them for his own insidious criminal purposes. The "Mindworm" story in Amazing Spider-Man years ago is one example; so's the Man-Beast story arc in early issues of Peter Parker the Spectacular Spider-Man. I'm sure there are plenty of examples from other books; I just read a lot of Spidey as a kid. [/quote']

Hey! You're pretty good at this, maybe you should write an RPG Supplement sometime.

 

 

 

 

 

[Vanguard00]

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I'd just as see them in Digital Hero. It gives the magazine some leverage with gamers wanting the material. Anything which helps spark DH sales is good' date=' IMO.[/quote']

I agree. I think they'd make great DH additions similar to what we've already seen in "stuff that didn't make it into [insert book title here]" sections.

 

EDIT: Forgot to mention, just ordered my book. Woot! On yet another unrelated note, this is the longest it's ever taken me to order a new release that was currently in stock...

[GestaltBennie]

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I agree. I think they'd make great DH additions similar to what we've already seen in "stuff that didn't make it into [insert book title here]" sections.

 

EDIT: Forgot to mention, just ordered my book. Woot! On yet another unrelated note, this is the longest it's ever taken me to order a new release that was currently in stock...

 

Possibly. The trouble is, given certain setbacks in my life, I really have to concentrate on work that pays better than DH.

 

Maybe in my spare time.

[GestaltBennie]

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That's the bit where a mentalist' date=' often a low-powered one, establishes mental control over lots and lots of ordinary folks and uses them for his own insidious criminal purposes. The "Mindworm" story in Amazing Spider-Man years ago is one example; so's the Man-Beast story arc in early issues of Peter Parker the Spectacular Spider-Man. I'm sure there are plenty of examples from other books; I just read a lot of Spidey as a kid. [/quote']

 

I was generally thinking of Hate-Monger and Psycho-Man from FF, with a maybe a touch of Brother Blood from the Titans. But Mindworm works too.

[Vanguard00]

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Possibly. The trouble is, given certain setbacks in my life, I really have to concentrate on work that pays better than DH.

 

Maybe in my spare time.

But...but...but...what about the satisfaction of a job well done?! What about the gratuitous masses of fandom who'll love you for sheer hours after seeing your glorious work?! What about...about...um...

 

...nevermind. Talked myself out of it.

 

It'd still be cool, though.

[FenrisUlf]

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I was generally thinking of Hate-Monger and Psycho-Man from FF' date=' with a maybe a touch of Brother Blood from the Titans. But Mindworm works too.[/quote']

 

Mindworm I never heard of before.

 

And sadly, all I know of Brother Blood is either (a) the bloodsucking kid who tried to knock up Raven from last year in the Titans and ( the cyborg-psionic-martial artist old guy from CN's Teen Titans.

 

But Hate-Monger -- wasn't he the gengineered wolfman? Or am I thinking of the Hitler clone?

 

But thanks Messers. Bennie & Long for clearing that up.

[Vanguard00]

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Mindworm I never heard of before.

He's an old Spidey foe who used to feed off the emotions of others. He got his ears boxed (literally) and his powers turned inward so that he realized he was being pathetic and decided to cease his evil ways (well, that's the short version I remember, anyway).

And sadly, all I know of Brother Blood is either (a) the bloodsucking kid who tried to knock up Raven from last year in the Titans and ( the cyborg-psionic-martial artist old guy from CN's Teen Titans.

The original Brother Blood was much more insidious. He was a true mastermind, charismatic and quite intelligent (besides being an immortal loon) who fed off the faith of his followers.

But Hate-Monger -- wasn't he the gengineered wolfman? Or am I thinking of the Hitler clone?

Hate-Monger I was originally a clone of Hitler with no real superhuman powers, though he could transfer his "essence" just before death. Later, after being resurrected (by the Cosmic Cube, IIRC) he could generate intense hatred in others and then feed off that hate. Mainly a Capt. America foe (of course).

[Wanderer]

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The ones I wrote but which didn't make it into the book were:

 

"Eat Caped Justice, Fools!" (the Superhero Trial Scenario)

"They Bombed The Abortion Clinic" (The Socially Relevant Scenario)

 

 

These I would be most eager to read about, and much as I've appreciated VA in its present form, I'd have much liked them being included (also because pretty much my only qualm about the book is the scenarios are a bit too four-color: including the above would have injected a welcome bit of Bronze/Iron Age mood).

 

About them being published in DH, I'm of two minds: on one hand, I would like to get them ASAP. OTOH, I think they really deserve to get their proper place in Villainy Amok II, when it's eventually done (also for the "balancing" of four-color and gritty/socially relevant scenarios).

 

I'd have a proposal: since they are already written, why not publishing them in a significantly abriged form in Digital hero, and leave the full-fledged, expanded exploration of the two scenarios for VA II, when (and if) Steve greenlights it ? As far as I know, giving a scenario idea or CU topic a first, cursory exploration in a DH article, then re-doing it in an expanded form as part of a book has been done before for Hero.

 

as for the specific scenarios, the Superhero trial is a classic bit (Hulk, Magneto, RR) with potential for a lot of excellent drama, and really deserves to get published. The "socially relevant" scenario I agree may be slippery, but if it is done in a general, noncommittal sense, exploring a lot of possible ways superheroes may back different social issues (the way VA discussed Mad Science), it has great merit and usefulness for Bronze/Iron Age games.

 

 

Scenarios which were planned but which pretty much exist only as a few 2-3 paragraph notes include:

 

"Who Killed Strontium-90?" (The superhero murder mystery)

"I Want One... Million... Dollars..." (the Kidnapping scenario)

 

Not terribly exciting, but definitely interesting and useful if it explores the general issue of "detective" superheroing. OK

 

“Chained to Evil†(escorting supercriminals to prison)

 

This is one I definitely wish to have published. Potential for both good action and drama. Especially taking in account possible links with upcomong Stronghold book. Might it be possible to expand it a biot to cover the scenario of convicted/imprisoned superhuman PCs as well (given the matter is not delved in Stronghold). It would link nicely with the Superhero on trial scenario.

 

"Get Your Filthy Paws Off Simianopolis!" (Lost Worlds In Danger)

 

I think this would be an excellent four-color scenario, nicely linking with Hidden Lands book, IF the hidden civilizations are made plausible and not cheesy. Something like Marvel's Inhumans (see classic Kirby original Inhuman story for one of the best explorations of the idea ever), Eternals, Atlanteans, DC's Amazons, are all excellent ideas. It would be nice if the scenario would also include some ideas for linking with CU's lost civilizations (Atlanteans, Empyreans, Lemurians). PLease, please, no cheesy and goofy hard-core silver age "half-animal" hidden cities of talking gorillas or bird-men, please. IMO, the fixation on apes was one of the silliest, goofiest, most obnoxious cliches of the silver age, and I swear I'll throw away the book in disgust the first time I read about "ape" or "gorilla" anything.

 

"The Island Where Superheroes Are Hunted Like Big Game Animals"

 

This idea leaves me rather cold, if nothing else because I find it rather unplausible for superheroes, unless the island is really something like Apokolips and Darkseid is the one doing the hunting.

 

“Ooops!†(When Military Weapons Tests Go Horribly Wrong!)

 

Nice idea, but it needs some effort to differentiate it from the mad science scenario, as their final effects are similar. However, it may be quite useful to explore the same ideas in a Bronze/Iron Age setting, since military/corporate experiments gone wrong are more realistic than the solo mad scientist for a source of super-science gone wrong. Definitely OK.

 

"The Polar Ice Cap Melt" (and Other Doomsday Weapon Scenarios)

 

Definitely another "general ideas" meta-scenario (like Alien Probe and Mad Science) that is actually a summation of several classic superhero scenarios and really, really deserves exploration and discussion. Quite OK. Also because it helps correct my other main quibble for VA as it is, namely most of its scenarios mainly cater to the standard, city-level power Spiderman level of superheroing and leaves the Avengers/JLA cosmic/global stuff a bit neglected (with the exception of the Alien Probe scenario, and Mad Science and Supehero Wedding may be tailored to pretty much any power level, and the more powerful, famous, and iconic the superheroes getting married, the best the scenario works).

 

"Smuggler's Round-up" (Smuggling scenarios and their complications)

 

Haven't we already far too many street-level crime-busting superheroing scenarios ? Bank robbery, arson, murder, kidnapping. Adding smuggling really looks like rather dull, a reharsal of Criminal Code. Couldn't we substitute with something more cinematic like say "Superheroes topple Third-World micro-nation dictatorship run by supervillain" (which would allow the explore the issue of superheroes meddling in global politics and acting as supersoldiers) or more postmodern like "superheroes are targeted by smear campaign" (which would allow to explore the whole issue of superhumans as celebrities).

 

"The Telepathic Hate Crime Cult"

 

As the "Super-Drug" scenario, another "superheroes need to root out grass-roots social phenomenon negatively affecting general populace" with potential usefulness for Bronze Age settings and hints of "relevance" metaphors. Somewhat interesting. OK.

 

In summation, most of the ideas (8, quite likely 9, out of 11; just steer away of anything simian. ) you have left aside look useful and interesting. You just need to break out a bit from the silver-age, street-level mold.

 

If I should ever be fortunate enough to do a sequel, I'd probably change things around a bit - there were a few suggestions in the "What Would You Like To See" thread that deserve exploring - and I'd include a second Plot Gallery.

 

What alternative ideas are you thinking of exploring ?

[Susano]

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PLease' date=' please, no cheesy and goofy hard-core silver age "half-animal" hidden cities of talking gorillas or bird-men, please. IMO, the fixation on apes was one of the silliest, goofiest, most obnoxious cliches of the silver age, and I swear I'll throw away the book in disgust the first time I read about "ape" or "gorilla" anything. [/quote']

 

Apparently you've never seen the Mike Mignola/Frank Cho assessment that "everything goes better with monkeys" (shared by many others -- including Darren Watts [iIRC], I may add).

[MitchellS]

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It would be nice if the scenario would also include some ideas for linking with CU's lost civilizations (Atlanteans' date=' Empyreans, Lemurians). PLease, please, no cheesy and goofy hard-core silver age "half-animal" hidden cities of talking gorillas or bird-men, please. IMO, the fixation on apes was one of the silliest, goofiest, most obnoxious cliches of the silver age, and I swear I'll throw away the book in disgust the first time I read about "ape" or "gorilla" anything. [/quote']

I think the whole purpose of the books is to link with the current Champions Universe. And the CU does have all those "cheesy" things you mentioned.

[MitchellS]

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Apparently you've never seen the Mike Mignola/Frank Cho assessment that "everything goes better with monkeys" (shared by many others -- including Darren Watts [iIRC]' date=' I may add).[/quote']

I share that assessment myself, if you couldn't tell from my avatar.

[Susano]

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I share that assessment myself' date=' if you couldn't tell from my avatar. [/quote']

 

Didn't someone post the "ultimate" comic cover, with a talking gorilla in a Nazi uniform?

[Wanderer]

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Apparently you've never seen the Mike Mignola/Frank Cho assessment that "everything goes better with monkeys" (shared by many others -- including Darren Watts [iIRC]' date=' I may add).[/quote']

 

This only shows that people of otherwise admirable creativity and talent may occasionally show sudden and unexplicable severe lapses in their taste standards. Talking Monkeys is probably the stupidest, crappiest, childiest, most obnoxious Silver Age clichè ever.

[Wanderer]

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I think the whole purpose of the books is to link with the current Champions Universe. And the CU does have all those "cheesy" things you mentioned.

 

just to clarify, I have nothing against CU's outstanding hidden civilizations, like Atlanteans and Lemurians, far from it. On the contrary, I am very enthusiastic about them, especially Empyreans, who are a nice CU clone of one among my preferred comic and Sci-Fi classic bits (hyperevoluted godlike hidden offshoot of human race). I am going to regard Hidden Lands amonf my preferred CU books ever. Inhumans, Eternals, Atlanteans, are all OK, double helpings pelase. As far as the variant race is a believable offshoot of humans (humanoids) or a plausible evolutionary "parallel developement" (e.g. intelligent dinosaurs). Empyreans are quite OK. Dr. Silverback is acceptable, because of its background story. Creatures that are indistiguishable from RL apes, yet are protrayed as having sentience, talk, and a parallel civilizataion to humanity for no good reason (e.g. genetic or magic experimentation), just because a gorilla in Superman's costume is comic, is utter crap.

 

Atlantis and Arcadia good. Simianopolis bad.

[MitchellS]

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just to clarify, I have nothing against CU's outstanding hidden civilizations, like Atlanteans and Lemurians, far from it. On the contrary, I am very enthusiastic about them, especially Empyreans, who are a nice CU clone of one among my preferred comic and Sci-Fi classic bits (hyperevoluted godlike hidden offshoot of human race). I am going to regard Hidden Lands amonf my preferred CU books ever. Inhumans, Eternals, Atlanteans, are all OK, double helpings pelase. As far as the variant race is a believable offshoot of humans (humanoids) or a plausible evolutionary "parallel developement" (e.g. intelligent dinosaurs). Empyreans are quite OK. Dr. Silverback is acceptable, because of its background story. Creatures that are indistiguishable from RL apes, yet are protrayed as having sentience, talk, and a parallel civilizataion to humanity for no good reason (e.g. genetic or magic experimentation), just because a gorilla in Superman's costume is comic, is utter crap.

 

Atlantis and Arcadia good. Simianopolis bad.

I get it. You don't like gorillas. Then don't think of them as gorillas.

 

Dr. Silverback, to me, is the Beast. I don't even think of him as a gorilla any more than I think of the Beast as a mutant. These are just comic book characters with physical mutations of one sort or another.

 

It would seem that you're more interested in "human-like" hidden races than non-human. That's fine. I just believe there is room for all of them. The bird-people of Thaar are just as interesting to me as the Arcadians or the Atlanteans.

[Southern Cross]

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Actually,I'm more interested in REALLY strange aliens.Give me a Rigellian or a Velantian over a bird-person or cat-person any day.

[Wanderer]

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I get it. You don't like gorillas. Then don't think of them as gorillas.

 

I hate it when apes are put in comic book stories with the express purpose of appealing to gross childish humor, the idea that talking monkeys or superheroes-turned-apes should be "funny" b/c of the contrast between sentience (or superpowers) and expected "apeish" behavior that the creature should have nonetheless, like scratching head or making funny noises. To me, it looks like a close relative of toilet humor. It's a painful reminder of when comics were pigeonholed to cater to childish tastes and perspectives. How appealing do you find stories with Batman being fed a powerful laxative ??

 

If sentient apes are insterted in a serious and plausible way in a story, like giving them a background of have been purposefully upilifted to sentience via genetic or magical tinkering, and focusing on the deal of being new citizens of the sentience culb, it's all good. Planet of the Apes is all good. Bonzo the Super-Monkey, last Son of Simianopolis, is obnoxious. Parallel spontaneous development of apes to sentience that retain "apeish" features is stupid. Apes are apes, not humans, just because they took a sdifferent ewvolutionary path than humans. Sentient apes should be indistinguishable from humans, because we are the sentient apes.

 

Dr. Silverback, to me, is the Beast. I don't even think of him as a gorilla any more than I think of the Beast as a mutant. These are just comic book characters with physical mutations of one sort or another.

 

Agreed. Dr. Silverback is the same as it were a genetically uplifted crocodile, bear, or whatever. Its background story justifies him (if any, the background bit that he dates humans sort of redeems him, in a Iron Age sense

 

It would seem that you're more interested in "human-like" hidden races than non-human. That's fine. I just believe there is room for all of them. The bird-people of Thaar are just as interesting to me as the Arcadians or the Atlanteans.

 

I find it more interesting if hidden races were plausible. If the race would still be fitting showing up in a Sci-Fi story or comic, just because my ultimate background perspective on the genre is Sci-Fi (with some fantasy bits) on people with superhuman powers. Sentient dinosaurs or silicon creatures are better than humanoids with bat wings, unless it is specifically explained that someone long ago took the chore of genetically (or magically) engineer bat wings on humanoids. Cat-people is rather cliche, having been done to death, but somewhat acceptable. Monkey people is annoying, just when is purposefully done with the idea that it should be funny to see an ape in a suit.

 

Going back to the original topic, with so many excellently developed outstanding hidden civilizations in the CU, like Atlantis and Arcadia, focusing a possible adventure "hidden city" scenario on "sentient apes city" or "bird-man city" seemed to me catering to the most obnoxious bits of Silver Age legacy. You can do an excellent hidden city scenario (see: FF discovering Inhumans) without putting gorillas and the Justice League of Super-Pets in the equation. Use Atlantis, Arcadia, Lemuria, Shamballa.

[assault]

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I hate it when apes are put in comic book stories with the express purpose of appealing to gross childish humor' date=' the idea that talking monkeys or superheroes-turned-apes should be "funny" b/c of the contrast between sentience (or superpowers) and expected "apeish" behavior that the creature should have nonetheless, like scratching head or making funny noises. To me, it looks like a close relative of toilet humor. It's a painful reminder of when comics were pigeonholed to cater to childish tastes and perspectives. How appealing do you find stories with Batman being fed a powerful laxative ??[/quote']

 

I think you might be taking things a little too seriously...

 

Let's face it: Champions players are the kind of people who think it's fun to sit around pretending to be superheroes. That's not exactly a serious pastime. In fact, it's really quite absurd.

 

But that absurdity is part of the fun...

 

On the actual topic: obviously I would like to see a Simianopolis type scenario. It should be written seriously, of course, so it can be played entirely deadpan. Or not, as the case may be.

[Susano]

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I hate it when apes are put in comic book stories with the express purpose of appealing to gross childish humor, the idea that talking monkeys or superheroes-turned-apes should be "funny" b/c of the contrast between sentience (or superpowers) and expected "apeish" behavior that the creature should have nonetheless, like scratching head or making funny noises. To me, it looks like a close relative of toilet humor. It's a painful reminder of when comics were pigeonholed to cater to childish tastes and perspectives. How appealing do you find stories with Batman being fed a powerful laxative ??

 

I'm not sure where you're coming from here. I've not seen a lot of apes in comics stories in which the ape acts like an ape in a super hero costume. Most of the time the ape is either an ape (HELLBOY) or is as intelligent as any human, but happens to be an ape (MONKEYMAN AND O'BRIEN). Most DC comics apes are the same -- hyper-intellgent apes who are played serious, not for laughs. I known Darren has joked about the "Apes of Wrath," but he's more into the "coolness factor" long associated with comicbook apes not any sort of "toilet humor." I mean, the closest example I can think of to what you're talking about is the FENG SHUI Jammers, and even then, they are uplifted apes armed with a lot of heavy weapons.

[Wanderer]

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I'm not sure where you're coming from here. I've not seen a lot of apes in comics stories in which the ape acts like an ape in a super hero costume. Most of the time the ape is either an ape (HELLBOY) or is as intelligent as any human' date=' but happens to be an ape (MONKEYMAN AND O'BRIEN). Most DC comics apes are the same -- hyper-intellgent apes who are played serious, not for laughs. I known Darren has joked about the "Apes of Wrath," but he's more into the "coolness factor" long associated with comicbook apes not any sort of "toilet humor." I mean, the closest example I can think of to what you're talking about is the FENG SHUI Jammers, and even then, they are uplifted apes armed with a lot of heavy weapons.[/quote']

 

Mutants & Masterminds' scenario book, Time of Crisis, includes a scenario with heroes ending up in parallel earth with civilization of sentient apes, complete with apeish parallels of PC and NPC superheroes and supervillain, the latter provided with a gradual-transform-to-monkey ray that the PC are mandatorily exposed to during the adventure. That's a good example of how I do *not* wish the "hidden civilization" Hero scenario to be written. And yes, Feng Shui Jammers badly sucked. A good example of where an otherwise excellent RPG can inadvertly cross the line between cool and ridiculous.

 

It must be completely different frame of reference, but I honestly fail to see any coolness factor whatsoever associated to comicbook apes. There have been some examples where uplifted apes are protrayed seriously and stand the scene (a good non-comic example that I'm aware of, is the "Uplift" sci-fi novel cycle, by David Brin), but apes being cool... really ? honestly ? the idea leaves me and I mean, apes may be cute or nice, and they have that "distant cousins" appeal factor, but cool ?? Well, King Kong had that mighty image. Apes being apes, like companions or familiars, yes they can be often cute or nice, or uplifted sentient apes done seriously, yes they can be OK, like any other "alien". But I fail to see the coolness. That's an idea I'd associate more to say big cats (especially), wolves, bears, eagles or great lizards.

 

Anyway, to return to the original topic, Champions Universe already has a significant number of very cool "hidden civlizations", about to be brilliantly detailed in Hidden Lands. I would very much love to see a "hidden city" scenario for Hero, since it's a classic comic bit, but IMO it can be done well by using an Arcadian outpost or a lost Malvan colony. I see no need to use a "talking beasts" hidden civilization, unless the scenario is purposefully done for laughs, which is just the worst angle to do it. Hidden civilizations is a cool genre bit, but one that already borders on ridiculous by strongly stretching verisimilitude (see: Kryptonian cities in bottles). It should look mythic, not funny. Amazon Island or Olympia, not Rabbittown or Dog City.

 

As for the "leftover" Villainy Amok scenario, what would you prefer, folks ? Getting them in Digital Hero, or wait for Villainy Amok II, or both ? Are you interested in a Villainy Amok II book ??

[Darren Watts]

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While nobody would be happier to have a Villainy Amok II then me, I do have to point out that we'll need to sell a lot more of #1 to justify a #2. So be sure to tell your friends how much you liked it! dw