knightofpholtus Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Has Hero Games ever done anything with the Norse gods? I know that they did the Greek gods for 4th ed. If so, in what book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superskrull Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Has Hero Games ever done anything with the Norse gods? I know that they did the Greek gods for 4th ed. If so' date=' in what book?[/quote'] Champions Presents #1 had stats for Thor in it. That was an old 4th Ed book. Oh, and the 4th Ed Champions Universe had Ymir in it as a combination great menace/plot device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Not quite the gods, but the 4E Dark Champions sourcebook included a hi-tech mercenary team, The Berserks, who styled themselves after figures from Norse mythology in their names and weaponry. They included Thor (impact-enhancing gauntlets), Heimdal (sonic blaster), and Loki (flamethrower). They used team code signals in Old Norse to confuse their opponents. Note that in the current CU the realms of the Norse and other mythic gods are part of the extra-dimensional realm of Faerie/ the Land of Legends, as described in The Mystic World. No real details on the gods themselves, though. OTOH the Dragon, one of the great mystic menaces of the CU, has been equated with Jormungand as well as other mythic draconian/ophidian monsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik_nilsson Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Another "not quite the gods"... In one of the plot seeds for DEMON (in the DEMON book, or CU) the god Loki is summoned. Hel is also given some space in the Mystic World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Cross Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Re: Norse Gods I'd better continue reading my new copy of The Mystic World,then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik_nilsson Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Re: Norse Gods In one of the plot seeds for DEMON (in the DEMON book' date=' or CU) the god Loki is summoned.[/quote'] I was wrong, it's one of the plot seeds for Fenris in CKC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Re: Norse Gods If you mean like writeups of gods, heroes, monsters, enchanted items, and what-all from the sagas, nope, 'fraid not. Norse mythology is a subject near and dear to my heart, and I certainly wouldn't mind writing about it for gaming purposes, but the opportunity hasn't arisen. I have a few ideas that might one day crystallize into a book, but for now they remain merely ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Steven S. Long, you big tease! (Here's hoping for rapid crystallization.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Steven S. Long, you big tease! (Here's hoping for rapid crystallization.) Ditto that Hoping and further hoping for the "Superheroic Treatment" for them as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Cross Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik_nilsson Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods If you mean like writeups of gods' date=' heroes, monsters, enchanted items, and what-all from the sagas, nope, 'fraid not. Norse mythology is a subject near and dear to my heart, and I certainly wouldn't mind writing about it for gaming purposes, but the opportunity hasn't arisen. I have a few ideas that might one day crystallize into a book, but for now they remain merely ideas. [/quote'] Suppose you do write the book. The release schedule for 2007 hasn’t been release yet, so it could even be quite soon. Here are some thoughts: Make the book generic. Previously there has at least been an Olympian book, but I think it would be better if the book handled several mythologies. Wizards of the coast’s Deities & Demigods might be too much of a monster manual, but it’s heading in the right direction. A middle-way between a monster manual and just stating a general descript of the deities concept, could be to give loads of templates. In that way only an example pantheon or two needs to be given explicitly stats. They way gods are handled in superhero magazines are as persons with powers, rather than abstract phenomena. Unfortunately in role-playing games they tend to be treated as abstract phenomena, or “just†plot hooks. The story about Thor would be quite boring if Loki weren’t given a distinct personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Oooh... I can see it now: THE ULTIMATE DEITY! (Well, maybe a slightly different title... that one could draw protestors.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Actually, the more I think about the idea of an Ultimate book on this subject, the more intrigued I am. Imagine exploring the issues of running gods and godlike beings in different genres: fantasy, supers, horror, science fiction. Mythological gods, Lovecraftian gods, highly evolved/advanced races, cosmic entities, conceptual beings. As far as examples go, there are a ton of them already written up in various Hero books. You could draw together representative ones and expand on them. "Sigh!" Probably never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Gets my vote. Perhaps worshiping a god would Aid the god's VPP - and in return the god could Aid the PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik_nilsson Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Oooh... I can see it now: THE ULTIMATE DEITY! (Well, maybe a slightly different title... that one could draw protestors.) That's funny I was about to use the same title. (No that the choice of title is that unique, but still.) "Sigh!" Probably never happen. Believe it or not, but what really counts for Hero Games is selling books. If enough people wants the book, then maybe... Gets my vote. Unless my math is way of, the count is now up at 3 (you, me and Lord Laiden). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Anomaly Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods 3[/b] (you, me and Lord Laiden). Make that 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle A. Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Make that 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik_nilsson Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Norse mythology is a subject near and dear to my heart' date=' and I certainly wouldn't mind writing about it for gaming purposes, but the opportunity hasn't arisen.[/quote'] Doesn't this qualify as a half (for a total of 5.5)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Cross Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Well,you either want The Ultimate Deity or you don't,so I'd say that makes at least 7 people who want that book,including myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Well' date='you either want The Ultimate Deity or you don't,so I'd say that makes at least 7 people who want that book,including myself.[/quote'] All they need now are 1193 more people to want it and it might just make a schedule somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Re: Norse Gods I'm game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proditor Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Re: Norse Gods Yeah, add me to the list as well. Heck, for once, I even have suggestions for a "What do you want to see" thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Re: Norse Gods I'd buy it ...but lets get a less objectionable title...how about "Divine battlefields!"...???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proditor Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Re: Norse Gods I was thinking about this, how about "The Ultimate Myth"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Re: Norse Gods There's a big difference between an Ultimate book and what most people seem to want. An Ultimage Divinity would be a book telling people how to design gods and pantheons and what-not. A Pantheon book would have write ups for gods of different pantheons. I'm not sure which I'd be more interested in. Of course the nature of the Hero meta-verse makes a pantheon book complicated. God are either 5,000 point characters [making them impossible to be played in Champions] or more "normal" level [like those described in the back of CKC] which them makes them too weak for a lot of Fantasy Hero campaigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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