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A character creation question.

 

If someone is trying to translate DC or Marvel Characters nearly directly the cost for certain characters is extreme visa via effectiveness.

 

An example. Batman would cost more points then Super-Man in most creations if you included his base(s), followers, and devices.

 

I am thinking of characters like Shadowcat. You could create Shadowcat as potrayed in the comics, but it would be very expensive. Significantly more expensive than the rest of the X-Men. One could easily create Cyclops, Wolverine, Gambit, Nightcrawler, Storm, Colossus, or Iceman for 350 points (or at least playable versions of them),

 

Shadowcat. She has been seen phasing up to 8 people, which would cost 80 points before the END was reduced to manageable and whose effect on Electronics would need to be purchased with the + 2 advanatage (effect real world). Now this is fair, but it means that a playable trainslation of Kitty would more likely focus on Martial Arts and simply Phasing (not mass phasing).

 

 

 

Does anyone other characters that translation into Hero is either very, very expensive or not doable.

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You could create Shadowcat as potrayed in the comics' date=' but it would be very expensive. Significantly more expensive than the rest of the X-Men. One could easily create Cyclops, Wolverine, Gambit, Nightcrawler, Storm, Colossus, or Iceman for 350 points (or at least playable versions of them),[/quote']

 

This is the Mary Sue version of Shadowcat. When she began, she was a kid who could walk through walls, and may have demonstrated an interesting side-effect on electronic stuff.

 

At some point, there would have been a version of her that was about the same power level as the others you listed.

 

Of course, the original X-Men started off at a much lower power level too.

 

It really depends on which versions of the characters you want to build. Almost all characters were simpler and less powerful when they first appeared than the way they were decades later.

 

Does anyone other characters that translation into Hero is either very, very expensive or not doable.

 

Rogue.

 

Unless she is an NPC, and the GM is able to cheat in her favour, it isn't possible to build a version of her that isn't built on far more points than the characters around her. (An NPC version can take advantage of the fact that the GM knows what kind of characters she is likely to be mimicking).

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This is the Mary Sue version of Shadowcat. When she began, she was a kid who could walk through walls, and may have demonstrated an interesting side-effect on electronic stuff.

 

At some point, there would have been a version of her that was about the same power level as the others you listed.

 

Of course, the original X-Men started off at a much lower power level too.

 

It really depends on which versions of the characters you want to build. Almost all characters were simpler and less powerful when they first appeared than the way they were decades later.

 

 

 

Rogue.

 

Unless she is an NPC, and the GM is able to cheat in her favour, it isn't possible to build a version of her that isn't built on far more points than the characters around her. (An NPC version can take advantage of the fact that the GM knows what kind of characters she is likely to be mimicking).

 

 

Yeah, and Absorbing man...just does not fit well...Even Taskmaster is a pain with out some work arounds...

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The Spectre. His original 40's stuff is realatively easy to do but a version that could match the various "Crisis" abilities? UGH... Or how about Super-Skrull. Combing all the abilities of the FF? A total points monster.

 

pinecone has a point about Absorbing man. Any of the power mimicslike Mimic, Super Adaptoid etc., as depicted in 90's or '00 comics are painful. really need to be GM run beasties.

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to me the goal is to build an homage.

"Your character works basically just like Rogue"

or Silver Surfer, or whoever...

 

if you pick out these "tall orders" as player characters, like Super-Skrull, High Evolutionary, Doc Strange,

Martian Manhunter, etc: then they set the point limits for the PCs,

maybe for the whole campaign.

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The Spectre. His original 40's stuff is realatively easy to do but a version that could match the various "Crisis" abilities? UGH...

 

The Spectre was always a monster. You could produce a decent enough homage on similar points to the rest of the JSA heavy hitters, but it would be a cut down version.

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if you pick out these "tall orders" as player characters, like Super-Skrull, High Evolutionary, Doc Strange,

Martian Manhunter, etc: then they set the point limits for the PCs,

maybe for the whole campaign.

 

I would separate out the "PCs" from the "NPCs" here. That is, Doc Strange and the Martian Manhunter, as heroes and title characters, exhibited the patterns of power escalation typical of such characters.

 

If you build them as they first appeared, you can (more or less) build them on point totals similar to those used by most Champions campaigns. This is especially true of the Martian Manhunter, whose power set changed over time. He wasn't always Superman+.

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I would separate out the "PCs" from the "NPCs" here. That is, Doc Strange and the Martian Manhunter, as heroes and title characters, exhibited the patterns of power escalation typical of such characters.

 

If you build them as they first appeared, you can (more or less) build them on point totals similar to those used by most Champions campaigns. This is especially true of the Martian Manhunter, whose power set changed over time. He wasn't always Superman+.

No, he used to be the scientific Spectre: Invisibility, Desolidification, Telepathy, Shapeshilfting (growth included), Matter Manipulation (he summoned gold from seawater in his origin story and in a later story made ice cream with his mind), Telekinesis, Martian Breath, Twirling... the list goes on and on. And these are from his earliest stories. Any power the story needed, he'd have.

 

If anything, J'Onn was depowered when he became Superman+

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