ashuramarsh Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 how would one build the effect of Thor's hammer to not be able to be lifted any but the worthy? Would this even require anything to built or would it be an effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJoe3 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I'd treat it like a Personal Focus - no additional modifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 It becomes a story/plot point when someone else lifts it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 It can be build as an OAF only he can use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Don't build it as a Focus. example: Re: Thor's Hammer, MjöllnirHere's my quick & dirty take on building a 350 starting version of the character:I Have A Hammer!Val Char Cost Roll Notes13/60 STR 3 12- / 21- Lift 151.6kg/102.4tons; 2 1/2d6/12d6 [1/3]14/21 DEX 12 12- / 13- OCV: 5/7/DCV: 5/715/30 CON 10 12- / 15-13 BODY 6 12-13 INT 3 12- PER Roll 12-15 EGO 10 12- ECV: 510/15 PRE 0 11- / 12- PRE Attack: 2d6/3d616 COM 3 12-8/30 PD 5 Total: 8/30 PD (8/20 rPD)8/30 ED 5 Total: 8/30 ED (8/20 rED)4 SPD 16 Phases: 3, 6, 9, 126/18 REC 030/60 END 028/60 STUN 0Total Characteristic Cost: 73Movement:Running: 6"/12"Flight: 20"/40"Leaping: 2"/4"Swimming: 2"/4"Cost Powers ENDAsgardian Abilities, all slots Only In Heroic Identity (-1/4)47 1) +47 STR, Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (59 Active Points) 212 2) +7 DEX (21 Active Points); No Figured Characteristics (-1/2)24 3) +15 CON (30 Active Points)4 4) +5 PRE (5 Active Points)10 5) +13 PD (13 Active Points)15 6) +19 ED (19 Active Points)16 7) Damage Resistance (20 PD/20 ED) (20 Active Points)33 8) Life Support (Eating: Character only has to eat once per week; Extended Breathing: 1 END per 20 Minutes; Immunity All terrestrial diseases and biowarfare agents; Immunity: All terrestrial poisons and chemical warfare agents; Longevity: Immortal; Safe Environment: Zero Gravity; Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Sleeping: Character only has to sleep 8 hours per week) (41 Active Points)51 The Hammer: Multipower, 90-point reserve, (90 Active Points); all slots Restrainable (-1/2), Only In Heroic Identity (-1/4)4u 1) Swing!: Hand-To-Hand Attack +6d6, Variable Advantage (+1 Advantages; Examples: x2 KB, AP, Penetrating, AOE 1 Hex Accurate, Affects Desolidified, Reduced END, etc...; +2) (90 Active Points); Hand-To-Hand Attack (-1/2) 9Notes: Can be combined with up to 30 STR.5u 2) Throw!: Energy Blast 12d6, No Range Modifier (+1/2) (90 Active Points) 95u 3) Hammer Throw Movement: Flight 20", Costs END Only To Activate (+1/4), Variable Advantage (+1/2 Advantages; +1) (90 Active Points) 85u 4) Breaking Dimensional Barriers: Extra-Dimensional Movement (Any Dimension, Any Location), x8 Increased Weight, Safe Blind Travel (+1/4), Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (90 Active Points) 35u 5) Spinning Shield: Force Wall (18 PD/18 ED) (90 Active Points) 95u 6) Lightning!: Killing Attack - Ranged 4d6, Area Of Effect Accurate (One Hex; +1/2) (90 Active Points) 95u 7) Control Weather: Custom Power (Various ways to build this) (90 Active Points) 9Perks4 Reputation: It's Thor! (A large group) 11-, +2/+2d6Talents5 Rapid HealingSkills22 Various Skills: Custom SkillTotal Powers & Skill Cost: 277Total Cost: 350200+ DisadvantagesTotal Disadvantage Points: 350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I remember a build in Champions Presents #1 that also gave Mjolnir a STR min of 75 to lift(using the weapons rules). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Well, not making it a Focus is one option. But if you want a Focus, as I have pointed out before, Universal is -0 or +0 and Personal is +0 or -0. It follows that occupying the "conceptual space" between "anyone can use it" and "only one person can use it" that is, having some defined set of potential users (in this case "The Worthy" however that is defined) should also cost the same as either Personal or Universal. Lucius Alexander Worthy of a palindromedary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 If it is not build with Focus, it might be Restrainable isntead. If it is build as Focus it is a indestructible, Personal Focus. Since thor can also recall it to his hand, it would be inaccesible tops (he cannot be effectively disarmed in combat). That "only he can lift it" is simply the special effect of the Focus being Personal (instead of Universal like a normal hammer). Personal has been used for Judge Dread Style DNA-locks on Guns and for more mystical swords writeups then can be counted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 mjolnir magnetizes itself to the ground whe not in thor's possession or thrown [i use the term magnetize loosely to illustrate odin's enchantment of the hammer] and when thor grips it his DNA neautralizes that part of the enchantment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDancer Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Well, not making it a Focus is one option. But if you want a Focus, as I have pointed out before, Universal is -0 or +0 and Personal is +0 or -0. It follows that occupying the "conceptual space" between "anyone can use it" and "only one person can use it" that is, having some defined set of potential users (in this case "The Worthy" however that is defined) should also cost the same as either Personal or Universal. Lucius Alexander Worthy of a palindromedary Yeah, I've been doing the defined set of potential users for years. I term it, Semi-Personal. Example: Most people can use Captain America's shield for +2 DCV. Very few can use it in the myriad ways that he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Yeah, I've been doing the defined set of potential users for years. I term it, Semi-Personal. Example: Most people can use Captain America's shield for +2 DCV. Very few can use it in the myriad ways that he can. That would be a slightly different idea....the +2 DCV is Universal, but most other Powers are probably Personal. Also of course it would be Accessibel for most users but Inaccessible for Captain America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDancer Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Mmmm, Cap's shield has been caught (Accessed) by others, although so rarely that these could be termed exceptions that prove the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 It follows that occupying the "conceptual space" between "anyone can use it" and "only one person can use it" that is, having some defined set of potential users (in this case "The Worthy" however that is defined) should also cost the same as either Personal or Universal. That's a Restricted Universal Focus, from Fantasy Hero. Same cost. e.g. a Focus that can only be used by wizards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashuramarsh Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Sorry took awhile to get back, thanks for the reply. I used some ideas from Hyper for the hammer. The character is my own, not Thor.. per se. She is his daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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