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Re: Protoge Please Yes well I was working under the assumption that we'd tried that already and it hadn't worked. Your point is well made however.

Re: Protoge Please Train him of course. No obviously he's not going to be going on team missions at first, at least not heavy combat ones. However he could still assist on cases with individual members on a case by case basis. Working on investigations would give him experience and help him develop useful deduction skills. Naturally he would be recieving training in the danger room with the most combat capable member of the team, with an eye towards bringing him up to the team's level as efficiently as possible.

Re: Best Martial Artist: Champions Universe I would think the 'he doesn't exsist in 5th Edition' bit would be more pertinent, but I could be wrong about that. Either way, good point Susano.

Re: Best Martial Artist: Champions Universe But Bullit didn't have an eyepatch. Did he?

Re: Best Martial Artist: Champions Universe Who IS the man with the eye patch?

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Re: Best Martial Artist: Champions Universe So I was imagining Andres Panthanatos' write up in Predators?

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Re: Marvel's Best "Bricks" Hercules, easily. Some of the others may be more powerful then him, some of the others may be better fighters then him but since Marvel canon basically says Herc is basically an Olympian fratboy they'll never buy more booze then he does. Does Hulk even drink?

Re: Marvel's Best "Bricks" Shulkie did bulk up, near the middle of the previous volume of her current comic. She had to fight the Champion so she worked out as Jennifer Walters, figuring that since She-Hulk was just her normal self only exponentially stronger, bulking up in normal form would translate as more muscle in super form. She later defeated Champion, but only because she got him to give up the Power Gem. See by his own rules he was cheating since he only won the previous combats in that issue thanks to the Power Gem. No weapons allowed y'see.

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist I don't know which scans you're seeing there Chuck because the story clearly indicates that the fight was a close one. But hey, Grant Morrison could post on the boards and say that and you would say he's wrong wouldn't ya Chuck? Heck the entire DC Editorial Staff could come on this board and say the fight was close and you wouldn't listen. So I shall merely pat you on the head and tune you out in the hopes that you and your annoying opinions will go away.

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist Are you even paying attention to what I am saying? I have claimed that Batman and Prometheus were more or less evenly matched. NEITHER of them were getting anyplace in hand to hand combat. Oh they landed a few shots but neither man was going down anytime soon. Could Batman have won? Maybe, but it would've taken a long time and he didn't have that time. Nor did Prometheus. They both wanted a quick victory and when they couldn't get it through hand to hand combat, they both switched tactics. Of course, Batman's tactic was the boobytrapped helmet that eventually won him the fight.

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist Only because because that never actually happened in the comic. The comic I read clearly showed Batman and Prometheus more or less evenly matched and at no point was Prometheus clearly losing untill Batman used the booby trap he'd wired into Prometheus' helmet. You keep ignoring that part, though given past interaction with you that hardly surprises me.

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist And despite whatever spin you put on those scans, the fact remains that Batman did not win the fight untill he pulled out the cheat. The fight was more or less equal untill then, this is fact.

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist Whatever Chuck. I've read the story in question and Batman only one the fight when he pulled out the cheat that he had built into Prometheus' helmet. Prometheus was not getting his face smashed in and had Batman not pulled out the cheat, the fight looked as though it could've gone on indefinetly. Now Batman was clearly doing better then he had been in his first fight with Prometheus I admit but he was not doing as well as you seem to think he was. He may have gotten a few shots in but Prometheus was getting shots of his own in and neither of them was going down.

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist Batman was clearly winning the second fight? Didn't look that way to me. In the comic I was reading the fight looked pretty much even untill Batman busted out the cheat. After all, if Batman was winning he wouldn't NEED to use the cheat at all.

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist Fair point, though he'd really only need it to be heat and shatter resistant. Most of the JLA-ers don't go for the nads after all as most of them don't need to.

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist Well obviously she'd already gotten into position previously because Selina is not one to waste time. Now considering what's neccesary to disguise one's identity in the DC Universe, that is to say, not very much she could conceivably have made the change quite quickly. That's assuming she didn't hit him in the nads with the whip strike first. At any rate, my argument is not about his place in the rankings it's about wether or not he was sneak attacked. Now since previously in this storyline he was shown to be capable of defeating the Batman in hand to hand combat reasonably quickly, why would he have let the attack happen if he saw Catwoman there?

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist Or the whip struck with such force that the cup, if he did wear one, was inneffective. However that's just me nitpicking.

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist Prometheus is walking through the crowd of hostages, takes the shot from the whip in the nads and goes down. He sees Catwoman standing there and acts surprised as if he didn't expect her to be there, let alone helping out the Justice League. Now if Prometheus had seen her as Chuck seems to be suggesting, why would he be surprised? Indeed, why would he not have used the skills his helmet gave him to avoid the attack? Obviously because he'd not seen her previous to that point. Sounds like a sneak attack to me.

Re: DC's Best Martial Artist Also, you have to take into account that a properly wielded bullwhip can take a man's head off so it's not like he got love tapped. Besides he got sneak attacked and if a sneak attack can be used as an argument when Batman gets taken down, it can also be used in the defence of Prometheus.

Re: Chronicles of Narnia Well I did say it had been awhile since I'd read the Magician's Nephew. I had forgotten the bit about the tree, though I could've sworn that it had something to do with her coming to power, or upsetting Aslan's plan in someway because she ate the fruit without permission. Also, Earth is less magical then Narnia or Charn as in Narnia and Charn, Jadis had magical power whereas on Earth she had none though she was still quite strong.

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Re: Chronicles of Narnia Actually as I recall, the White Witch ate some of the fruit that was used to grow the Tree of Protection. She ate it without permission [as opposed to the main character who picked one fruit with permission of Aslan] which has something to do with her being able to eventually come to power. What exactly I'm not sure.

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