Well rounded in 6e

[WalkingParadox]

How many points do y’all need for a well rounded PC on 6e?

 

Back in 4 I felt it was 175

 

In 5, maybe 250-300

 

400 points in 6 for a competent, well rounded hero with an AP limit of around 50 points.  I’m stating an One Piece style Pirate Game and noticing a trend.

 

How about you?

[Grailknight]

400 points is high for a non-super campaign. That said, it depends on the power level you want to run at.

 

At 8-9 DC's and 3-4 SPD, you can simulate the manga/anime pretty well at 250-300 points. Every PC will be weaker than Luffy (thank God) but they'll be as good or better than the sidekicks. If you want everyone to be at Luffy's level, then go ahead and start at 400. The key thing to remember is that every PC should be able to be the star on a rotating basis, not one star with the featured sidekick of the week.

[LoneWolf]

What is well rounded is going to be dependent on the campaign.  What is well rounded in a high-powered superhero campaign is going to be overwhelming in a   low powered street level superhero campaign.   When you start comparing superhero campaigns to heroic campaigns it gets even worse.  

 

The other thing to factor in is how optimized the characters are.  There are a lot of ways to write up effective characters without having to spend huge amount of points.  A lot of player forget about complementary skills .   Sometimes the best way to be the best at something is not just to throw more points at it.  Having the right complementary skills not only gives you those skills, they can in the right circumstance boost up your other skills.  Background skills are particularly good at this and with skill enhancers can be dirt cheap.   
 

[Jason Reid]

400 in 6th is way more than 175 in 4th.

[Christopher R Taylor]

You can make a good starter superhero on 325 points in 6th edition.  Probably 175 is fine for a starter for heroic.  More points just gives you more experience and skill for the characters.

[Grailknight]

Remember that the OP wants to simulate a popular Shonen anime. Low powered supers are the floor here. Most of the characters can be well rounded versions of themselves at 250-300 points but if they all want to be close to the main characters then they will need more. He could start them at 200 and then give experience at a higher rate than is normal in Hero also. 

 

 

Edited June 14, 2023 by Grailknight

[Chris Goodwin]

I had a GM once who, after our characters were fully built, gave us an extra 10 free points that had to be spent on "useless" KS's and similar background Skills.  You could tweak the amounts. 

 

It's easier to give than take away, and it's easier to say "You get 175 points plus 10 points worth of free background skills" than it is to say "You get 185 points but you must spend 10 of them on background skills". 

[unclevlad]

Plus, at least the first time, if you say 185 with 10 must be in background skills, they'll put exactly 10 in the background skills.  If you say 175, hey, who knows, some of em might put some points into them during the build.

 

Second time around, of course, the players might expect it, so you might not be able to surprise them...but hey, then maybe you change the deal a bit....

[dmjalund]

7 hours ago, unclevlad said:

but hey, then maybe you change the deal a bit....

"Pray I do not change it further"

[Word Sensei 515]

Aww, let's give everyone one 3 point background skill at 75 points. Add a +1 to that skill at 125 points, taking that +1 & adding another skill instead at 150 points; 200 would be 75+75+50 a background skill & a +1 background skill, 225 would be three background skills, no pluses. If your a martial artist, speedster, warrior or rogue add another set for DEX skills rarely used in combat like Acrobatics & Breakfall. Don't even add these to your points, these are rarely if ever used in combat, even the DEX ones, consider them skills you gain from adventuring you shouldn't be penalized for.