Yamo Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43787 It's a long, sad thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Escafarc Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 What drives me nuts is that this argument between HERO Fans and HERO Haters has been going on almost 20 years:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 I'd like to read th thread, but Stupid rpg.net can never remember when I am logged in. It keeps telling me I don't have access to view the second page. This is not a unique occurence on their website. Keith "sigh..." Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 I believe the thread may have been killed by the moderators because of the ugliness that it descended into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Originally posted by rjcurrie I believe the thread may have been killed by the moderators because of the ugliness that it descended into. That bad? No wonder I couldn't find it by searching. Keith "we may be contrary round these parts, but at least we're civil" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 What exactly are they considering HERO to be cheating in regard to? If they say having a superior game system is somehow "cheating", then I guess they've got us cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Escafarc Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Originally posted by Trebuchet What exactly are they considering HERO to be cheating in regard to? If they say having a superior game system is somehow "cheating", then I guess they've got us cold. They were claiming we were stuffing the ballet box by getting non-gamers to vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEmerged Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Love to hear their definition of a gamer, then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Worldmaker Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Originally posted by TheEmerged Love to hear their definition of a gamer, then Someone who doesn't play Hero, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Ack. So I did a quick search, wound up reading a different thread on the ballots. Someone posted a picture of "Doom of Odin" by Avalanche Press. Oh my. so I checked out the Avalanche Press website. They seem to be going for a certain demographic. I'm pretty certain that the Aztec wore different outfits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 LoL, yeh those Nordic chicks didn't care much about the elements I guess. And if they all looked like that, what viking man would find time to go pillage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C_Zeree Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Originally posted by lemming Ack. So I did a quick search, wound up reading a different thread on the ballots. Someone posted a picture of "Doom of Odin" by Avalanche Press. Oh my. so I checked out the Avalanche Press website. They seem to be going for a certain demographic. I'm pretty certain that the Aztec wore different outfits. I agree... Cheesecake at its "finest." ::running for his fork:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvester Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 I have played GURPS several years now and I bought Hero System 5th Edition about 8 months ago. I like both systems. Both have good points and I like to use GURPS for realistic campaigns and someday I use Hero for not so realistic campaign . I don't get it, why people can't like both system. There is enough room for generic systems and everybody can pick up system which he likes the best. It doesn't change anything to argue about stupid things. - Harvester - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartman Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 I'm with you Harvester. The RPG holy warriors get a bit on my nerves as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nHammer Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Personally, I think non-gamers shouldn't vote (or shouldn't be encouraged to vote). If you have no idea what the games are, you shouldn't vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Even at that, the problem with things like this is that in most cases folks haven't played ALL of the games. I looked at the list and wound up voting in only the suggested HERO related categories because those were the only ones for which I had any frame of reference. For example, I don't play CCGs and didn't recognize most of the ones listed. I think most people voting tend to pick something in each category that "sounds good", same way that people at home watching the oscars have typically only seen one or two out of the five nominees so they vote for the one they know and like. Solution: GAMA should give us copies of everything. To review of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Actually, one of the benefits to being a member of the Academy is that companies with lots of money (e.g., Kenzer & Co.) or with low cost-of-goods products (e.g., Looney Labs) often send out copies of their games to Academy members to drum up votes. I probably received at least $200 in review product of that sort this year, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPheemy Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Nothing like a couple of unsolicited bribes to fill out one's game library, eh? I might have to get me one o' dem Acadamy memberships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Yeah, that scam's hard to beat. How do I sign up again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 I think I looked at the application a year or two ago. I think you had to meet a publishing requirement (Something like two items published in gaming products, to prove you are an industry pro or semi-pro). Alas, I remain an enthusiastic amature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Originally posted by nHammer Personally, I think non-gamers shouldn't vote (or shouldn't be encouraged to vote). If you have no idea what the games are, you shouldn't vote. agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 ignore--double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nHammer Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Originally posted by Blue Even at that, the problem with things like this is that in most cases folks haven't played ALL of the games. I looked at the list and wound up voting in only the suggested HERO related categories because those were the only ones for which I had any frame of reference. For example, I don't play CCGs and didn't recognize most of the ones listed. I think most people voting tend to pick something in each category that "sounds good", same way that people at home watching the oscars have typically only seen one or two out of the five nominees so they vote for the one they know and like. Solution: GAMA should give us copies of everything. To review of course You at least have an understanding of gaming, whether it be roleplaying, wargaming, or CCGs, you've played. Getting people to vote for gaming awards if they have never gamed is wrong.(IMO) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcorp Man Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 And how was this supposedly done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 I think nHammer is referring to getting family/friends who don't play to vote just because you want more votes. I tend to agree, much as I'd still like to see Hero/DOJ overcome the obstacle put in front of them. And isn't that what being a superhero is all about? But I'm saying in my earlier post that Technically voting in a category where you haven't seen all of the games would be wrong, because you're voting under a supposition about all the other games that you haven't played. It's really the same thing. Not that I'm talking anyone out of voting. Pleae do. I'm just saying that NONE of the public voters are innocent, because chances are slim that they've played all of the nominees in each category. Just making a semantics argument folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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