SatinKitty Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 All right you guys: Who designed Invictus' new costume in Villany Amok ??? Liberace on LSD ???!!! Invictus is NOT wearing THAT in our campaign. Unless his students had very deep respect for their leader, they'd laugh hysterically at the sight of him in that. His old costume was fine. Why not reinstate it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! I liked the old costume better as well. He wants to get the respect and support of the American People; that costume is not the way to do it. Maybe the spirit posessing him has a problem with modern fashions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! Wait - there's a Mrs. Oddhat? Do we have any proof? Something that will deny rumors that Oddhat is just posting under a new alias so he can agree with himself? But yeah, the new costume is out of place. Besides, VOICE already has a villain wearing a similar outfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! Wait - there's a Mrs. Oddhat? Do we have any proof? Something that will deny rumors that Oddhat is just posting under a new alias so he can agree with himself? But yeah, the new costume is out of place. Besides, VOICE already has a villain wearing a similar outfit. Well, Steve Long met Mrs. Oddhat at last years GenCon, which has to count for something. If you're at GenCon this year, you can say hello to both of us as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! will she be wearing a hat of unusual nature? I plan on meeting everyone!!!!!!! and I was never fond of his old costume...but I like it better than the new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! I'd say his 'Hates Christianity' disad would be a bigger barrier to his gaining success as a politician then his costume. After all the Republicans have had remarkable success by playing to the Bible Belt set and that disad could cause a massive backlash against Invictus. If I used him in a campaign I'd remove that disad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! All right you guys: Who designed Invictus' new costume in Villany Amok ??? Liberace on LSD ???!!! Invictus is NOT wearing THAT in our campaign. Unless his students had very deep respect for their leader, they'd laugh hysterically at the sight of him in that. His old costume was fine. Why not reinstate it ? Well...when you can toss around the kind of energy blasts this guy can....you're probably not too worried about what people think of your fashion sense... Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! I'd say his 'Hates Christianity' disad would be a bigger barrier to his gaining success as a politician then his costume. After all the Republicans have had remarkable success by playing to the Bible Belt set and that disad could cause a massive backlash against Invictus. If I used him in a campaign I'd remove that disad. Yeah, but he can conceal that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJackBrass Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! ...Liberace on LSD... I think you've just given me an idea for a new NPC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transmetahuman Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! I think you've just given me an idea for a new NPC... Please, God, no. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! But yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! Yeah' date=' but he can conceal that.[/quote'] True, but for how long. Much better for him in the long run if he just gets over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! True' date=' but for how long. Much better for him in the long run if he just gets over it.[/quote'] The way his background is set up, it doesn't sound like he can 'get over it'. The spirit possessing and empowering him savagely hated Christians in life, and that's one personality trait he carried along past death. I see several ways to go with it. (1) He hides it by publically endorsing Christianity but privately organizing a cult dedicated to Sol Invictus (which would probably have to remain private, from what I've read of the worship conducted by Heliogabalus/Elagabalus), intending to one day bring it out into the open. Maybe he endorses totoal religious freedom -- with only a very few people reallizing just what 'total' means. (2) He has someone a few steps removed create a new church dedicated to Sol Invictus. For a brief while it expands -- there are nasty tumors of human sacrifice and depraved orgies, but no evidence. He then sets up a situation where 'right wing Xian fanatics' attack the cult and commit mass murder. Invictus denounces the attack, harps on 'the wonders of religious tolerance', and gets his cult publically accepted until he wins the Oval Office, at which point all other religions can go hang. Literally. And why does everyone assume Invictus must be a Republican? He could be a Democrat, or better yet, an Independent. I seriously doubt someone with his level of egomania wants to deal with old party hacks and the rest of the nonsense involved with the Big Two. Let him make his own party: 'The Light of Tomorrow party -- using a Classical past to lead America into a golden future!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! The way his background is set up, it doesn't sound like he can 'get over it'. The spirit possessing and empowering him savagely hated Christians in life, and that's one personality trait he carried along past death. I see several ways to go with it. (1) He hides it by publically endorsing Christianity but privately organizing a cult dedicated to Sol Invictus (which would probably have to remain private, from what I've read of the worship conducted by Heliogabalus/Elagabalus), intending to one day bring it out into the open. Maybe he endorses totoal religious freedom -- with only a very few people reallizing just what 'total' means. (2) He has someone a few steps removed create a new church dedicated to Sol Invictus. For a brief while it expands -- there are nasty tumors of human sacrifice and depraved orgies, but no evidence. He then sets up a situation where 'right wing Xian fanatics' attack the cult and commit mass murder. Invictus denounces the attack, harps on 'the wonders of religious tolerance', and gets his cult publically accepted until he wins the Oval Office, at which point all other religions can go hang. Literally. And why does everyone assume Invictus must be a Republican? He could be a Democrat, or better yet, an Independent. I seriously doubt someone with his level of egomania wants to deal with old party hacks and the rest of the nonsense involved with the Big Two. Let him make his own party: 'The Light of Tomorrow party -- using a Classical past to lead America into a golden future!' It's defined on his character sheet as a Psychological Limitation so as I understand the rules, he could indeed get over it if he was sufficiently motivated. Your ideas for him would indeed work but in any campaign I'd use him in, his first ten experience points would go towards buying off that particular disadvantage. Oh and for the record I didn't say he was Republican, I just said that in recent years the Republicans played up to the Christian Community to thier great advantage in recent years. Bush is still President and the Republicans have most of the seats in the senate if I'm not mistaken. For them it was a great tool to solidify thier power, so logically it could be used as a great tool against Invictus should his views on Christianity become public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GestaltBennie Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! As I mentioned elsewhere, if you don't like Invictus's Villainy Amok get-up, consider it his formal suit, worn only for special occasions. I really don't see the Liberace on LSD part. That implies lots of glitter, which the Roman banded mail motif lacks. Yes he has a problem with Christianity and its practitioners. He tries to hide it, given the political climate, but due to the strength of his psych limitation he's not always successful. Good thing he knows how to spin doctor... :-) And I play Sutherland as a southern Democrat/Dixiecrat, but that's not official and your mileage may vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! And I play Sutherland as a southern Democrat/Dixiecrat' date=' but that's not official and your mileage may vary.[/quote'] That's always a good compromise. Everybody hates Dixiecrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightray Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 (1) He hides it by publically endorsing Christianity but privately organizing a cult dedicated to Sol Invictus (which would probably have to remain private' date=' from what I've read of the worship conducted by Heliogabalus/Elagabalus), intending to one day bring it out into the open. Maybe he endorses totoal religious freedom -- with only a very few people reallizing just what 'total' means.[/quote'] Good gravy, if that's the Sol Invictus in his writeup, the Liberace costume makes perfect sense. He'll probably want to turn America into a penocracy, or make his horse a US Senator or something. Can't see that it would have much of an effect on the campaign world, though... And, to conclude with a pointless Heliogabolus + comic book aside: if you ever see a copy of Neil Gaiman's Being An Account Of The Life And Death Of The Emperor Heliogabolus, pick it up. It's a 24 hour comic, that he wrote and illustrated in one sleep-deprived day and night. It's also pretty cool, even without the horse. Or zombie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karma Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! I'd say his 'Hates Christianity' disad would be a bigger barrier to his gaining success as a politician then his costume. After all the Republicans have had remarkable success by playing to the Bible Belt set and that disad could cause a massive backlash against Invictus. If I used him in a campaign I'd remove that disad. Ah but you forget he's a 'politician'. He therefore uses the tried and tested tactic: 'lie to constituents". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karma Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! And why does everyone assume Invictus must be a Republican? He could be a Democrat, or better yet, an Independent. I seriously doubt someone with his level of egomania wants to deal with old party hacks and the rest of the nonsense involved with the Big Two. Invictus is a meglomaniac. He wants to be the leader of the (free) world, the only way that's going to happen is with the support of one of the Big Two. You name the last Independent President of the United States. (O.k. you probably can, but I bet he weren't recent) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! Ah but you forget he's a 'politician'. He therefore uses the tried and tested tactic: 'lie to constituents". Which won't work at all if they think he's a heathen snake who should be lynched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! Invictus is a meglomaniac. He wants to be the leader of the (free) world, the only way that's going to happen is with the support of one of the Big Two. You name the last Independent President of the United States. (O.k. you probably can, but I bet he weren't recent) Abraham Lincoln, but I guess that technically was third party rather than independent. A rift between the Northern and Southern Democrats resulted in Stephen Douglas and John Breckinridge spliting the Democrat vote, John C Bell ran for the Whigs (rechristened the Constitutional Union party), and Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in 9 states. Lincoln got 39.8% of the popular vote, but 180 out of 303 electorial votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! Can those of us who have not bought the book yet see a pic of the new costume so we can judge for ourselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! Can those of us who have not bought the book yet see a pic of the new costume so we can judge for ourselves? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! Can those of us who have not bought the book yet see a pic of the new costume so we can judge for ourselves? Not uploading an actual scan because I'm unsure of the rules, but: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GestaltBennie Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Re: Tacky, tacky, tacky !!!! - Bad OddHat! You bad man! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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