Demonsong Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 I use the following steps. Although if it is really bad I just jump to step 4. 1- Sometimes the power is kind of OK; it can just be abused if the GM lets it. In that case I give the player a warning. This has worked for me once, but most of the time it does not work. So I move on to step 2. (As a matter of fact I am GMing a guy right now that has the summon power to summon Shadow Demons, I have warned him about the miss use of this power. I will be interested to see if he listens to that warning or not. Only time will tell.) 2- If the power is just a little out of wack, I modify it so it fits in the campaign better. 3- I squash the power cut it out of the game all together. 4- If all else fails, the character slips on a banana peal and breaks his neck. Or get teleported in to the sun. Or any one of a number of fun things gm’s can use to squash an unbalanced/abusive character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 A BIG suprise I don't know if anyone has posted about this but, I had a friend come up with a presence attack that does knockback and double knockback. Holy Crap was that horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Personal favorite is to use Flash: touch, does KB, double KB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 The USPD actually has the best solution to the 'What In The Name Of The Almighty Kiwi Have I Allowed In My Game' effect ... under Radiation Powers, there's a power called Radiation Accident, which does exactly what it sounds like. Talk to the player, tell him that you made a mistake. However, make it clear that you can't allow that mistake to continue to wreck the game. Offer him the option of falling subject to the Radiation Accident; to be fair (heck, more than fair), let him redistribute the points lost by losing the BAH-ROKEN power, since he should never have had it in the first place. This is better, to me, than just re-writing the character completely OOCly, and he loses an ability that he technically had before. One of those 'maintaining continuity' numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 a low end brick with the same powers but a hammer/pick might be even stealthier. Problem is Supperessors are not perfect. many smgs end up sounding like .22 rifles, iirc. Originally posted by Wyrm Ouroboros I ... am SO glad my players don't read these boards. And I am so gonna use this guy in my 'Suddenly, Mutants' Dark Champions-esque campaign... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 I got stomped on because I bought a penetrating HKA. The didn't let me add strength. Only reason I bought it was that the penetrating RKA was inadequate imho. I guess I do have munchkin tendencies. Too bad all my characters are totally inefficient. I was working on 2 linked 2d6 autofire Penetrating reduced pen reduced end Energy RKA - needle laser blaster. Also called the shredder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonsong Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 I was working on 2 linked 2d6 autofire Penetrating reduced pen reduced end Energy RKA - needle laser blaster. Also called the shredder I would probably put a stop to that also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comfortmd Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 think of this... Multiple power attack, grab/grapple with tk(half dcv), fencing slash gives a 2d6 hka penetrating ap plus 2 dice strength an extra die, add to it 2 seperate hka 2d6 no str bonus +1 stun mult no kb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Goodwin Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 I think I've got the winnah and grand champeen. Never was, probably never will be, and never should be approved. http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5392#post88576 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 It was designed for a dark future military weapon. When I told him about it, my friend asked "did you come up with that yourself? It is nasty." NO Respect I tell ya. Originally posted by Demonsong I would probably put a stop to that also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuscaDomestica Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 I remember a power that was posted, drain knockback resistance, does knockback, double knockback... lots of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Actualy it was dispell KB, does KB, Double KB (MUCH CHEAPER) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhamin Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 I had a player with a Werewolf character. His schtick was that he worked like the movie were wolves that ignored most of what wasn't silver and could keep getting back up. Among his other powers, he had a 4d6 aid to Stun with a Trigger set to go off when he was knocked below zero stun. I came to hate that charcter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Say, Jhamin ... uh, wouldn't he only get back a maximum of 24 points of STUN from that power until some of the aided points 'wore off'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christougher Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 4th Edition, 3d6 Aid, simplified healing, bought 0 END Persistent. Applied as 'every one of my phases I'm hurt, I get back 3d6 stun and the body from that. Approved by previous GMs, they won't accept how wrong it is, or what a correct version would do. Now, imagine said power on a character with half damage reduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 I had a GM who INSISTED that my Aid - STUN booster shot gadget didn't need Continuous or Uncontrolled...just Continuing Charges. That lasted right up until the first time I used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhamin Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Originally posted by CrosshairCollie Say, Jhamin ... uh, wouldn't he only get back a maximum of 24 points of STUN from that power until some of the aided points 'wore off'? Yes, "only" 24 stun. That was one of the ways he convinced me. Problem was this character had a huge recovery & Ok defences & damage reduction. The bad guys were luck to knock him down to negative stun at all. Once they did, he popped right back up & usally took a recovery. In play the effect was that he got close to a full recovery as soon as he went below 0 stun, no matter how far down he was or when his next action was. It wasn't so much that you couldn't put him down, it was that he wouldn't stay down. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent X Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Originally posted by Jhamin Yes, "only" 24 stun. That was one of the ways he convinced me. Problem was this character had a huge recovery & Ok defences & damage reduction. The bad guys were luck to knock him down to negative stun at all. Once they did, he popped right back up & usally took a recovery. In play the effect was that he got close to a full recovery as soon as he went below 0 stun, no matter how far down he was or when his next action was. It wasn't so much that you couldn't put him down, it was that he wouldn't stay down. Ever. That would be a fun character. Eventually, some of the more resourceful villains would entangle the fellow as soon as an opportunity came up to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnOSpencer Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Originally posted by Jhamin I had a player with a Werewolf character. His schtick was that he worked like the movie were wolves that ignored most of what wasn't silver and could keep getting back up. Among his other powers, he had a 4d6 aid to Stun with a Trigger set to go off when he was knocked below zero stun. I came to hate that charcter. Funny, I seem to recall a werewolf player in one of my groups like that also. Coincidence? John Spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhamin Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Originally posted by Agent X That would be a fun character. Eventually, some of the more resourceful villains would entangle the fellow as soon as an opportunity came up to do so. That's what his claws were for. Did I mention I came to hate this character? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 I'm surprised you never just had somebody do the old 'insurance shot' for double damage in the same phase when he got KOed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhamin Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Originally posted by CrosshairCollie I'm surprised you never just had somebody do the old 'insurance shot' for double damage in the same phase when he got KOed. Ah, but the trigger was set to "when he is below 0" so there was never actually a phase when he was down before it went off. I ended up with villains firing off stupendous coordinated attacks several phases in a row to max out his aid while preventing him from recovering before they could bring him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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