Michael Hopcroft Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Anyone have any ideas how you would write up the new version of James Bond for Dark Champions? The most obvious result of the reboot of continuity that Casino Royale represents is that this Bond is less experienced than his predecessors and does not have nearly as potent a reputation. He also apparently has, at least at the start, a much poorer relationship with MI-6 in general and M in particular (the Brosnan Bond may have rubbed M the wrong way, but at least she respected his talent and experience -- the Daniel Craig Bond is new to the 00 ranks and viewed by M as a "blunt instrument" unsuitable for any assignment requiring subtlety, discretion or finesse). Apparently much of the theme of the movie will be Bond "earning his wings" and proving to M that much as she dislikes the idea, M needs him in the ranks of the 00 agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 James Bond is a disaster, continuity wise. You'd have to be pretty creative to come up with a way to explain the 20+ movies, 6 actors, and 40 years. One of my friends has surmised that he is a Time-Lord. This same friend also came up with the possible explanation that the name "James Bond" is an identidy assigned to an agent in conjunction with the number. The name has as much of a repuation as the number, but keeping the face fresh allows 007 to confuse the enemy a little (to say nothing of the viewers). When "Sean Connery" retired, the James Bond/007 ID went to "George Lazenby". Lazenby cracked after one mission when his new wife was killed, and "Connery" came out of retirement for one last mission to avenge his fellow agent in "Diamonds Are Forver". After that the designation went to "Roger Moore", then to "Timothy Dalton" (who had a short run due to his tendency to go rogue), and then "Pierce Brosnan". "Brosnan" was an old school veteran agent that had been operating for a long time without a "00" designation, and M (Judi Densh) didn't like him initially, but she eventually grew to trust him. Now "Brosnan" has retired, and a new man, "Daniel Craig" is stepping up to the plate. It actually works, sort of. And Lazenby does refer to Connery when he says "that never happened to the other fella". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvoncannon Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 This same friend also came up with the possible explanation that the name "James Bond" is an identidy assigned to an agent in conjunction with the number. The name has as much of a repuation as the number, but keeping the face fresh allows 007 to confuse the enemy a little (to say nothing of the viewers). Taken from the original Casino Royale movie. David Niven is a retired agent, Sir James Bond who is asked to come back. Meant to be a spoof. When "Sean Connery" retired, the James Bond/007 ID went to "George Lazenby". Lazenby cracked after one mission when his new wife was killed, and "Connery" came out of retirement for one last mission to avenge his fellow agent in "Diamonds Are Forver". After that the designation went to "Roger Moore", then to "Timothy Dalton" (who had a short run due to his tendency to go rogue), and then "Pierce Brosnan". "Brosnan" was an old school veteran agent that had been operating for a long time without a "00" designation, and M (Judi Densh) didn't like him initially, but she eventually grew to trust him. Now "Brosnan" has retired, and a new man, "Daniel Craig" is stepping up to the plate. It actually works, sort of. What?! You count "David Niven" as one of the six, but leave him out in the explanation?? I do like how you put it though, and yes it does work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 What?! You count "David Niven" as one of the six, but leave him out in the explanation?? I do like how you put it though, and yes it does work. 1) Connery 2) Lazenby 3) Moore 4) Dalton 5) Brosnan 6) Craig. I wasn't including the original Casino Royale in the "explanation". I haven't seen it either, but I've been told it doesn't "jive". "Never Say Never Again" doesn't really fit it, but's not part of the same franchise either. These two are considered "non-canon", according to Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_%28character%29 Here are some quick thoughts on how I would write up my versions of 007. The details are minimal, since a lot of the Bond traits are shared (gambling skills, WF: firearm proficiencies). "Connery" Bond: STR 15, DEX 17, CON 15, BODY 14 INT 18, EGO 18, PRE 18, COM 14 PD 7 ED 5 SPD 4 REC 8 END 30 STUN 35 2 overall levels, 2 levels w/combat, 2 levels w/HtH Martial Art style: boxing that includes an offensive strike (hook), though he may have picked up a ninjutsu maneuver or two in "You Only Live Twice". Disadvantage: Psychological limitation: cruel (common, moderate) Physically, the strongest of the Bonds- able to take a beating from the likes of STR 20 opponents like Grant and Oddjob without shying from the melee. In fact he seems to prefer melee combat over firearms since it lets him indulge in a little cruelty. Very "in your face", uses his high PRE to provoke the enemy into making mistakes with taunts that are just subtle enough to be deniable. This Bond never skis on film, though he can SCUBA dive. *** "Lazenby" Bond: STR 13, DEX 20, CON 15, BODY 13 INT 18, EGO 13, PRE 15, COM 16 PD 6 ED 5 SPD 5 REC 6 END 30 STUN 35 2 overall level, 2 levels w/combat, 2 levels w/HtH Martial Art style: dirty infighting, defense maneuver versus multiple opponents. Disadvantage: Unluck 2d6 Physically, he relies more on his agility than his toughness. In the lone film that he was in, he got into Hand to hand combat a lot, and the fights were sped up to make him look faster. Unlike Connery, he is not confrontational, though it would be wrong to suggest that he is timid. He shares his predecessor's passion for subtle insolence (as when he suggests with a straight face that Irma Bunt's name might mean the side of a boat). He has the worst luck of the Bonds- whether he is failing stealth checks by stumbling into a room full of bells or having his wife die within minutes of his wedding. *** "Moore" Bond: STR 10, DEX 23, CON 18 (drops to 15 in View to a Kill), BODY 11 INT 18, EGO 15, PRE 20, COM 20 (drops to 16 in View to a Kill) PD 5 ED 5 SPD 4 REC 10 END 36 STUN 40 4 overall levels, 2 levels w/combat Martial Art style: relies on combat levels, prefers not to dirty himself with HtH combat, though he's certainly able to engage in it. While not physically strong, Moore is extremely agile (bordering on the superhuman- he could survive in a Champions setting, and goes up against Jaws who has a 30+STR) and possessed a great deal of stamina. Even as his age became more apparent in later years, he was able to stay in fighting shape. He could take a beating as well, though he usually ended up outsmarting opponents when he could. His luck and quick wit gives him a detached and aloof attitude that conveys the impression that not only is danger routine for him, he's really quite tired of it all, really, and he would like to get back to the Gentlmen's Club as soon as possible. He was perectly happy to break off a fight to finish it another day, and used his skills as a championship skier, parachutist, SCUBA diver, mountain climber, car/boat/minijet/space shuttle pilot to escape. He could seduce women with a glance, and would often use his PRE to make his enemies underestimate him. He killed quickly with little cruelty, but made it a point to avenge a fallen ally. *** "Dalton" Bond: STR 13, DEX 18, CON 15, BODY 13 INT 18, EGO 20, PRE 18, COM 14 PD 6 ED 5 SPD 4 REC 7 END 30 STUN 35 2 overall level, 2 levels w/combat, 2 levels w/range Martial Art style: commando training Psych lim: vindictive Dalton's most notable trait was his determination to see the mission done. That determiniation is visibly projected in everything he does, and it becomes even more apparent when he chooses to pursue his own agenda. It also keeps him from getting distracted by the beautiful women he encounters- unlike the other agents using the Bond name, Dalton would only involve himself with one woman per movie, and it was the woman most involved in his plot- it's possible that these liasons were just a means to an end for him and that the romances ended once there was no mission to pursue. He favours ranged combat because it is expedient. He is the most vindictive of the Bonds, and the most remorseful because he seems to have an awareness that the other Bonds don't have of what being a "00" has cost him. He is ruthless in his fights, but is outraged when the battle between professional spies spills into the civilian world. Dalton never skis, though he does use a cello to expertly toboggan down a mountain and over a border. *** "Brosnan" Bond: STR 13, DEX 20, CON 15, BODY 12 INT 18, EGO 18, PRE 18, COM 18 PD 6 ED 5 SPD 4 REC 7 END 30 STUN 35 2 overall level, 4 levels w/combat Martial Art style: commando training Brosnan incorporates elements of all his predecessors. He has a strong sense of remorse about what his profession has cost him in life, though he keeps his head and has kept his loyalty to MI6, even staying on after he was captured for a full year. In combat, he is equally adept in melee or with firearms. His charisma is surpassed only by Moore, and as such, he can rely on it, though his charm lacks subtlety, and when it doesn't work, he quickly reverts to a more combatative option. *** I'll share my thoughts on what "Craig"'s write up would be after Nov 14th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 Here is Michael "Susano" Surbrook's writeup of Bond, primarily based on Ian Fleming's novels rather than the film series: http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionsbook/bond.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 I just ignore continuity. Poof! Problem solved. Keith "don't stress it" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 One other notable Dalton trait was his mastery of psychology and of deductive reasoning. He was the polar opposite of a "blunt instrument", had a remarkable ability to grasp complex situations, and was devious in the extreme. The bulk of License to Kill involved him playing a masterful mind-game against a ruthless drug kingpin that caused both the man's organization and the man himself to disintegrate from within, to the point that he met his end as a hopeless paranoid, all the while heading off a poorly-conceived parallel effort by the official sections of MI-6. As to his charisma, one thing is telling: given a choice between aiding the MI-6 mission and the fugitive Bond (whom he was officially obligated to stop and possibly even apprehend), the irascible weaponmaster Q chose Bond over the Agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 I'm telling you guys, every James Bond movie takes place in a vacuum. Don't try to wrap your heads around it. Keith "Trust your feelings. You know it to be true." Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trained Chicken Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 I just ignore continuity. Poof! Problem solved. Keith "don't stress it" Curtis This is the sort of advice that should be applied to most forms of escapism. I'd rep you if I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 I'm telling you guys' date=' every James Bond movie takes place in a vacuum. Don't try to wrap your heads around it.[/quote'] Hmmm... 007 on Infinite Earths? Seriously though, I think Basil Exposition has some good advice: "I suggest you don't worry about those things and just enjoy yourself." It's still fun to try and work around it though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlHazred Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 One other notable Dalton trait was his mastery of psychology and of deductive reasoning. He was the polar opposite of a "blunt instrument"' date=' had a remarkable ability to grasp complex situations, and was devious in the extreme.[/quote']One thing about Dalton: despite the fact that many Bond fans I know don't like him and consider his characterization "not really James Bond," he was probably the actor who came closest to actually reflecting the Bond of the books. The book-Bond was ruthless and diabolically clever, and not squeamish or dashing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 I just ignore continuity. Poof! Problem solved. Which can be groovy. Myself, I love me some Tom Strong comics, which are completely episodic and whimsical, and where continuity is something that happens to other people. I also love Philip Jose Farmer's Wold Newton stories and the very elaborate WNU, which is all about the pleasantly absurd game of trying to reconcile 100 years and more of pop culture into a single continuity. Both approaches can be fun, and both can make you throw up your hands and walk away from a series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 One thing about Dalton: despite the fact that many Bond fans I know don't like him and consider his characterization "not really James Bond' date='" he was probably the actor who came closest to actually reflecting the Bond of the books. The book-Bond was ruthless and diabolically clever, and not squeamish or dashing at all.[/quote'] I remember an interview with Dalton shortly after it was announced that he got the part, describing how he read all of Ian Fleming's stories in order to find the essence of the character. True serious-actor research. I liked Dalton's take on Bond, and will always regret that he didn't get a couple more movies to put his stamp on the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 I remember an interview with Dalton shortly after it was announced that he got the part, describing how he read all of Ian Fleming's stories in order to find the essence of the character. True serious-actor research. I liked Dalton's take on Bond, and will always regret that he didn't get a couple more movies to put his stamp on the character. Before taking the role, Dalton had a long and impressive screen and stage history dating back to a memorable supporting role as the young King of France in 1968's The Lion in Winter. At the time, he was also in a long-term relationship with Vanessa Redgrave, the accomplished and politically controversial grande dame of British film and stage. So "serious actor" pretty much defines Timothy Dalton. It is his craft, and he is very, very good at it. Ironically, his most memorable roles to American audiences aside from Bond were in such films as the gloriously campy Flash Gordon and the pulp homage The Rocketeer. Also a fixture on British television, he recently had a chilling turn as a viciously amoral politician in the new series of Agatha Christie's Miss Marple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starblaze Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 It's interesting to note that Felix Leiter is also played by some different actors as well. Jack Lord (Dr. No - 1962) Cec Linder (Goldfinger - 1964) Rik Van Nutter (Thunderball - 1965) Norman Burton (Diamonds Are Forever - 1971) David Hedison (Live and Let Die - 1973) John Terry (The Living Daylights - 1987) David Hedison (Licence to Kill - 1989) Jeffrey Wright (Casino Royale - 2006) Unofficial Michael Pate (Casino Royale - 1954) - as 'Clarence Leiter' Bernie Casey (Never Say Never Again - 1983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 One thing about Dalton: despite the fact that many Bond fans I know don't like him and consider his characterization "not really James Bond' date='" he was probably the actor who came closest to actually reflecting the Bond of the books. The book-Bond was ruthless and diabolically clever, and not squeamish or dashing at all.[/quote'] Your description of book-Bond is far too kind: He was a borderline sociopath that had the good fortune of being able to channel his social dysfunction into a well-paying government job. Fortunately, he was aware of his psychosis, and that staying in the "00" section was the best way to contribute to society. And Dalton captured that aspect of him really, though the Bond character has, through some kind of social consensus, grown beyond what Ian Fleming originally envisioned (in the same way that BatMan has grown beyond what Bob Kane might have envisioned, or really, any character who remains "active" in the public consciousness for two or more generations). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 Moore's Bond was a bit of a dirty fighter. Remember in Golden Gun the kung fu guy when they were bowing put his eyes to the ground. Moore gave him a sucker kick. So any write-up or explanation of the 3 different Blofeld's Donald Pleasance (YOLT-1967) Telly Savalas (OHMSS-1969) "the guy from Rocky Horror" (DAF-1971) Note: Edit: Or the pre-YOLT behind the scenes one/s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 Moore's Bond was a bit of a dirty fighter. Remember in Golden Gun the kung fu guy when they were bowing put his eyes to the ground. Moore gave him a sucker kick. So any write-up or explanation of the 3 different Blofeld's Donald Pleasance (YOLT-1967) Telly Savalas (OHMSS-1969) "the guy from Rocky Horror" (DAF-1971) Note: Edit: Or the pre-YOLT behind the scenes one/s If we assume Moore has a +2d6 HA in addition to his 6 levels and 23 DEX, he used 4 of those levels to boost his damage to 6d6, and hit his 1/2DCV, surprised opponent with an OCV of 12. A Called shot to the head still gives him a good chance of hitting (and it's not unreasonable to assume that all the Bonds have added levels just for called shots), and when he hits the opponent, after the x2 multiplier, he can easily knock out his generic opponent (if we assume the opponent had 6 PD, no armor on his head, and that the 6d6 was an average roll, the opponent took 6x3.5/die = 21 damage, minus 6 = 15, doubled to 30 after damage muliplier. Enough to KO most generic thugs. As I said, he dislikes HtH and tries to end it quickly. *** As for Blofeld, I curse you for making me waffle to come up with an explanation that fits, but I rise up to the challenge regardless. Here goes nothing: Blofeld is always the same guy. When he looked like "Donald Pleasance", he needed plastic surgery and was planning to get it. Afterwards, he comes out looking like "Telly Savalas". With his dashing new looks, he opens a medical clinic and starts focusing on the pretty women in his clinic. He hears that "Connery" is out of the biz, gets sloppy, and is surprised when "Lazenby" infiltrates. He kills Lazenby's wife, decides to get plastic surgery again should Lazenby come looking for him, and hides out in Las Vegas, this time getting one of his mooks to also have surgery in case "Lazenby" comes after him. Unfortunately, it's "Connery" who comes back, suprising Blofeld and making him assume that Lazenby was Connery w/plastic surgery all along. Miraculously, he survives Connery's wrath, but is crippled and incapacitated. Over the next decade, he plots his revenge. By this time, Moore has become activated, and MI6 hears that Blofeld is still alive. They send Moore to Tracy Bond's grave on the anniversary of her death. Blofeld assumed that Connery and Lazenby were the same person, since he knows what plastic surgery can do, and he assumes that Moore is still the same guy. Moore finally dispatches of Blofeld by taking over a remote controlled helicopter that Blofeld was controlling, and using it to scoop up the wheelchair-bound mastermind and drop him down a smokestack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 "the guy from Rocky Horror" (DAF-1971) That would be Charles Gray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 That would be Charles Gray. Yeah, couldnt think of the name, and I was too lazy to go to imdb.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 Which can be groovy. Myself, I love me some Tom Strong comics, which are completely episodic and whimsical, and where continuity is something that happens to other people. I also love Philip Jose Farmer's Wold Newton stories and the very elaborate WNU, which is all about the pleasantly absurd game of trying to reconcile 100 years and more of pop culture into a single continuity. Both approaches can be fun, and both can make you throw up your hands and walk away from a series. Oh, absolutely. I wasn't trying to discourage the game. I just think that complaining about the continuity is like trying to empty the sea with a bucket. I applaud some of the clever solutions above. Keith "But I don't stress over it" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 Here is Michael "Susano" Surbrook's writeup of Bond' date=' primarily based on Ian Fleming's novels rather than the film series: http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionsbook/bond.html[/quote'] I didn't do that one. My friend Steve Kramer (Champions in 3D) did that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 1) Connery 2) Lazenby 3) Moore 4) Dalton 5) Brosnan 6) Craig. I wasn't including the original Casino Royale in the "explanation". I haven't seen it either, but I've been told it doesn't "jive". "Never Say Never Again" doesn't really fit it, but's not part of the same franchise either. These two are considered "non-canon", according to Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_%28character%29 Here are some quick thoughts on how I would write up my versions of 007. The details are minimal, since a lot of the Bond traits are shared (gambling skills, WF: firearm proficiencies). "Connery" Bond: STR 15, DEX 17, CON 15, BODY 14 INT 18, EGO 18, PRE 18, COM 14 PD 7 ED 5 SPD 4 REC 8 END 30 STUN 35 2 overall levels, 2 levels w/combat, 2 levels w/HtH Martial Art style: boxing that includes an offensive strike (hook), though he may have picked up a ninjutsu maneuver or two in "You Only Live Twice". Disadvantage: Psychological limitation: cruel (common, moderate) Physically, the strongest of the Bonds- able to take a beating from the likes of STR 20 opponents like Grant and Oddjob without shying from the melee. In fact he seems to prefer melee combat over firearms since it lets him indulge in a little cruelty. Very "in your face", uses his high PRE to provoke the enemy into making mistakes with taunts that are just subtle enough to be deniable. This Bond never skis on film, though he can SCUBA dive. *** "Lazenby" Bond: STR 13, DEX 20, CON 15, BODY 13 INT 18, EGO 13, PRE 15, COM 16 PD 6 ED 5 SPD 5 REC 6 END 30 STUN 35 2 overall level, 2 levels w/combat, 2 levels w/HtH Martial Art style: dirty infighting, defense maneuver versus multiple opponents. Disadvantage: Unluck 2d6 Physically, he relies more on his agility than his toughness. In the lone film that he was in, he got into Hand to hand combat a lot, and the fights were sped up to make him look faster. Unlike Connery, he is not confrontational, though it would be wrong to suggest that he is timid. He shares his predecessor's passion for subtle insolence (as when he suggests with a straight face that Irma Bunt's name might mean the side of a boat). He has the worst luck of the Bonds- whether he is failing stealth checks by stumbling into a room full of bells or having his wife die within minutes of his wedding. *** "Moore" Bond: STR 10, DEX 23, CON 18 (drops to 15 in View to a Kill), BODY 11 INT 18, EGO 15, PRE 20, COM 20 (drops to 16 in View to a Kill) PD 5 ED 5 SPD 4 REC 10 END 36 STUN 40 4 overall levels, 2 levels w/combat Martial Art style: relies on combat levels, prefers not to dirty himself with HtH combat, though he's certainly able to engage in it. While not physically strong, Moore is extremely agile (bordering on the superhuman- he could survive in a Champions setting, and goes up against Jaws who has a 30+STR) and possessed a great deal of stamina. Even as his age became more apparent in later years, he was able to stay in fighting shape. He could take a beating as well, though he usually ended up outsmarting opponents when he could. His luck and quick wit gives him a detached and aloof attitude that conveys the impression that not only is danger routine for him, he's really quite tired of it all, really, and he would like to get back to the Gentlmen's Club as soon as possible. He was perectly happy to break off a fight to finish it another day, and used his skills as a championship skier, parachutist, SCUBA diver, mountain climber, car/boat/minijet/space shuttle pilot to escape. He could seduce women with a glance, and would often use his PRE to make his enemies underestimate him. He killed quickly with little cruelty, but made it a point to avenge a fallen ally. *** "Dalton" Bond: STR 13, DEX 18, CON 15, BODY 13 INT 18, EGO 20, PRE 18, COM 14 PD 6 ED 5 SPD 4 REC 7 END 30 STUN 35 2 overall level, 2 levels w/combat, 2 levels w/range Martial Art style: commando training Psych lim: vindictive Dalton's most notable trait was his determination to see the mission done. That determiniation is visibly projected in everything he does, and it becomes even more apparent when he chooses to pursue his own agenda. It also keeps him from getting distracted by the beautiful women he encounters- unlike the other agents using the Bond name, Dalton would only involve himself with one woman per movie, and it was the woman most involved in his plot- it's possible that these liasons were just a means to an end for him and that the romances ended once there was no mission to pursue. He favours ranged combat because it is expedient. He is the most vindictive of the Bonds, and the most remorseful because he seems to have an awareness that the other Bonds don't have of what being a "00" has cost him. He is ruthless in his fights, but is outraged when the battle between professional spies spills into the civilian world. Dalton never skis, though he does use a cello to expertly toboggan down a mountain and over a border. *** "Brosnan" Bond: STR 13, DEX 20, CON 15, BODY 12 INT 18, EGO 18, PRE 18, COM 18 PD 6 ED 5 SPD 4 REC 7 END 30 STUN 35 2 overall level, 4 levels w/combat Martial Art style: commando training Brosnan incorporates elements of all his predecessors. He has a strong sense of remorse about what his profession has cost him in life, though he keeps his head and has kept his loyalty to MI6, even staying on after he was captured for a full year. In combat, he is equally adept in melee or with firearms. His charisma is surpassed only by Moore, and as such, he can rely on it, though his charm lacks subtlety, and when it doesn't work, he quickly reverts to a more combatative option. *** I'll share my thoughts on what "Craig"'s write up would be after Nov 14th. "Craig" Bond: STR 15, DEX 18, CON 18, BODY 14 INT 18, EGO 20, PRE 18, COM 14 PD 8 ED 6 SPD 4 REC 7 END 40 STUN 40 3 overall level, 3 levels w/combat Martial Art style: commando training Lightning Reflexes, +8 DEX w/pistols. Psych. Limitation: The Ends Justifies the Means Craig balances a lot of the elements that everyone liked about every other Bond. He is physically the toughest Bond. His stunts are as impressive as Moore's, yet he has to constantly push himself to pull them off, unlike Moore who never seemed to break a sweat doing the impossible. He is also the most computer savvy Bond to date, demonstrating an ability to hack as well as act in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 This same friend also came up with the possible explanation that the name "James Bond" is an identidy assigned to an agent in conjunction with the number. The name has as much of a repuation as the number' date=' but keeping the face fresh allows 007 to confuse the enemy a little (to say nothing of the viewers).[/quote'] There's actually a comic book series I came across in recent years that did this, but I can't recall the title's name. The name is passed on from one agent to the next when he retires or is killed, and each successor is chosen with an eye towards filling the guise to create a legendary, "unkillable" agent. Does anyone else recall seeing this comic book? BTW, rep to the poster for his explanation of James Bond's multiple actors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Mann Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Re: 007 7.0 There's actually a comic book series I came across in recent years that did this, but I can't recall the title's name. The name is passed on from one agent to the next when he retires or is killed, and each successor is chosen with an eye towards filling the guise to create a legendary, "unkillable" agent. I know that this isn't what you're looking for, but the first person that came to my mind was The Ghost That Walks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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