Simon

Scientific method: You have a theory -- that the force of a punch is directly tied to the physical strength (lifting strength) of an individual. You expand on that theory - this is still in the beginning stages, though you did some in the thread. You see how well your theory matches observed evidence/empirical data. This is where you run into problems. There is a wealth of data available on both the subject of lifting strength (look to olympic power lifters, for example) and punching force. Studies done on boxers, in particular, present evidence that is in direct conflict with your theory. Some of the strongest punchers in boxing studies are the lighter weight classes (the guys with less muscle and MUCH less lifting strength than the heavy weights). Not proportionally stronger, just stronger punchers -- they generated the most force. Your theory that lifting strength is tied to punching strength does not account for this and would appear to be disproven by the data at hand. So you need to come up with a different theory. When you look at punching strength and what constitutes a strong punch, you find some rather interesting things that help to explain why some of the most physically strong individuals don't have correspondingly strong punches. If you have decent muscle definition in your upper arms, make a tight fist while feeling your bicep. Notice that it's tensing up? Now feel your bicep while you throw a punch -- notice still more tensing? That's a problem. Your bicep is responsible for bending your arm in -- that's the opposite direction that you want to go when throwing a punch. So you're actively fighting yourself in throwing your punch. Learning to throw a good punch is more about learning to relax all but the muscles involved in the act of punching itself (and there are a lot of them). Easier said than done....particularly in that you need to re-evaluate the motion of a punch in order to accomplish this -- your body has some pretty hard-wired controls in place to keep you from hyper-extending your elbow. Those power lifters you thought should have good punching strength? They have pretty massive musculature -- it's a lot to get moving quickly (another part of a good punch) and it's a LOT to have fighting their basic punching motion. And none of this even starts to get into transference of force, which is a whole other subject in and of itself...

Also look to empirical evidence: look at the typical body types of a power lifter vs. a boxer (or MMA fighter) -- the act of lifting/squeezing is almost completely different from the act of striking. Different muscle groups, different mechanics, and different considerations. You might as well work out the relationship between someone's top sprinting speed and their max punching strength.

There are a large number of factors involved in either...though more in the force of a punch. Easy example: go find an iron dumbbell with about 100 pounds of weight on it. Lift it over your head. It's heavy, but you should be able to manage that....if not, then tone the weight down. Then suspend it in the air (tie a rope to it and attach it to something sturdy). Try and punch it as hard as you can and see how far you can get it to go upwards. As you wait in the ER for the doctor to x-ray and set your hand/wrist you can ponder the different factors in play for punching vs. lifting. For a counter example: setup some force pads on a punching dummy. Punch the pad as hard as you can. If you've had some training, you should be able to get into the range of 500 - 1000 pounds of force. Have someone gently lower the same amount of weight onto you and try to lift it.

Goradin will no longer be joining us in these forums. Thank you to everyone else for not falling to his level.

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Yup -- too general of a search term will do that -- try narrowing your search and it'll do fine.

Search on full words...and know where you're searching. Generally speaking, using the search bar at the top of the page from the main forum channel listing will search all forums. I'm showing results for "Homunculus" and "Homunculi" (more for the latter). Those are the only two I tried.

No, the recent forum outage was most certainly due to catastrophic system failure...to the tune of not just one hard drive failing (which would be survivable), but two hard drives failing.

You might want to check the Hero Designer forum for information on this...

I suspect those are just being hidden by the rocket launcher...

Not particularly neat...or original...just a quick test.

You can give up or you can find the workarounds...which are really not that bad (at all). Sitting around complaining is entirely counter-intuitive (and non-productive). I'd recommend against it. I'd personally recommend playing around with the filtering a bit -- you may find that it provides some rather nice options.

Try clicking one and see what happens. Guess what? If you choose a setting for Show (for example) that doesn't match what you want to see, you can always change it back...and it still amounts to performing a refresh of the page count.

Change the filter at the top of the page to refresh the page count.

vB really needs to work in the option to like a comment...

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Re: Hero Central Down for?? ...

Re: Hero Central Down for?? No, there is not.

Re: Hero Central Down for?? That's likely the way it's going to stay for the foreseeable future, unfortunately. The difference in the server load statistics is night and day with HC down. The attacks are still happening (sporadically), but are not having much of a measurable impact.

Re: Hero Central Down for?? It's likely going to be down for a while now -- the DDoS attacks had moved on from the forums to HC (since I had put some countermeasures in place on the forums to limit the impact). I'm currently looking into what areas of HC were being targeted, but it's likely going to take a fair amount of recoding of the site to enact decent countermeasures there...which is something that is going to need to wait for my time to free up. On the plus side, folks on the forums should have seen a night-and-day improvement in performance and stability since yesterday.

Re: Herocentral See posts at the following: http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/93948-HEROCentral-Down-For-the-Count-(i-e-Server-Stability)?p=2413843#post2413843

Re: Herocentral Extended may be an understatement -- I can't keep killing the server like that. HC is down indefinitely at this point.

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