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An unhealthy obsession with nudity' date=' makeup, and that one contact lens. Some good tunes though.[/quote']

Yeah, what's wrong with artists these days? They all need a gimmick.

They should be more like the classic rock stars from my youth. Acts that got by on their talent alone...

Let's see, there was Kiss, Alice Cooper, Poison, Motley Crue, Twisted Sister, Ozzy Osbourne...

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Yeah, what's wrong with artists these days? They all need a gimmick.

They should be more like the classic rock stars from my youth. Acts that got by on their talent alone...

Let's see, there was Kiss...

 

Smile when you say that, Bug! :tsk:

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You left out Iron Maiden. And Judas Priest. And you can't talk about Ozzy without mentioning Black Sabbath.

 

But to paraphrase David Crosby, what changed was MTV, which inadvertently switched the focus of music from talent to looks.

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An unhealthy obsession with nudity' date=' makeup, and that one contact lens. Some good tunes though.[/quote']

See, we're the opposite here. I like his "fashion sense" but hate his music. Having seen him on Politically Incorrect, though, I was reasonably impressed with his conversational skills.

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You left out Iron Maiden. And Judas Priest. And you can't talk about Ozzy without mentioning Black Sabbath.

 

But to paraphrase David Crosby, what changed was MTV, which inadvertently switched the focus of music from talent to looks.

Yeah, this is unfortunate. Many bands are now being rejected for their looks alone, and that sucks. Particularly as our idea of what's attractive depends largely on pop culture to begin with, this is a bad way of making the system a sort of incestuous closed loop. Consider this - if one just saw Mick Jagger without the context of his stardom, would anyone really put him on TV in a video these days? Not likely - and if you think I exaggerate, no, not at all, there was an article in MTV how "unattractive" grunge bands were rejected by MTV just before Nirvana hit it big. With grunge aesthetics changed again and suddenly the greasy-haired lanky hairy kid became popular again.

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See' date=' we're the opposite here. I like his "fashion sense" but hate his music. Having seen him on Politically Incorrect, though, I was reasonably impressed with his conversational skills.[/quote']

 

Manson does have some occasional flashes of brilliance when speaking in public. But his shocking appearance and antics probably close people's minds before he gets a chance to open his mouth.

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...there was an article in MTV how "unattractive" grunge bands were rejected by MTV just before Nirvana hit it big. With grunge aesthetics changed again and suddenly the greasy-haired lanky hairy kid became popular again.

 

I'd have to say I regard that as a kind of aberration. Today the corporations have the video field really tightly sewn up to where I doubt anything like grunge could ever happen again. Every video is heavily overproduced, even for off-the-wall acts like Beck, such that the best that could be accomplished is a kind of faux-grunge.

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I'd have to say I regard that as a kind of aberration. Today the corporations have the video field really tightly sewn up to where I doubt anything like grunge could ever happen again. Every video is heavily overproduced' date=' even for off-the-wall acts like Beck, such that the best that could be accomplished is a kind of faux-grunge.[/quote']

Oddly enough I'm not so cynical about it. The fact is, MTV will show what brings in ratings. For instance, it's not as if the average rap star is a male model. It will probably take another large movement like grunge to break the current mainstream inertia, but something will happen sooner or later. People decry the stagnation/corporatization of popular music every ten or fifteen years, but something always comes along to revitalize it (followed quickly of course by the corporatization of the new subgenre ... did I say I wasn't cynical? ;)).

 

Then again, attractive people have always had a leg up in popuar music. I'm sure that fact is as old as music itself.

 

-AA

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